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God's Sabbath rest is not a weekly seventh day rest

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I think you are reading your own assumptions into Romans 14.
The funny thing is that I think you are doing the very thing you are saying I am doing.

As is the case with much of what Paul wrote, details are left out, which makes it difficult to interpret his writings. Peter even agreed that there were some hard sayings in Paul's writings (2 Peter 3:16). I see Romans 14:6 as one of these difficult texts.

Having said that, I am not convinced your conclusion is correct.

Nevertheless, I am going to dig deeper. I ordered a couple of books today. Perhaps it would be good for you to get the same books.
1. The Mystery of Romans: The Jewish Context of Paul's Letters
2. Paul within Judaism: Restoring the First-Century Context to the Apostle
 
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Jesus encouraged the keeping of the law while He was alive because the old covenant law was still enforced during His life.

However, after the death of Jesus the old covenant law, which included a seventh-day rest, became obsolete and is no longer required for Christians:

"But when the time had fully come, God sent His Son, born of a woman, born under the law, to redeem those who were under the law." -- (Galatians 4:4-5).

"So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law." -- (Galatians 3:23-26).

"For I through the law died to the law so that I might live for God." -- (Galatians 2:19).
 
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The funny thing is that I think you are doing the very thing you are saying I am doing.
LOL
Happy searching!
 
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"So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law." -- (Galatians 3:23-26).

Right, you are now under the supervision of the one who said, 'It is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for one jot or tittle of the Law to lose authority.'
 
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However, after the death of Jesus the old covenant law, which included a seventh-day rest, became obsolete and is no longer required for Christians:

Hebrews 8 was written AFTER the crucified Christ and the scripture clearly says that the old covenant (10 commandments) is WAXING OLD and GETTING READY to vanish. Aint vanished yet! Yes there are some books that claim the ten are obsolete. In them same books youll find in Hebrews 4 the name of Jesus being change to Joshua for the same reason. To hide the truth
 
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"So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law." -- (Galatians 3:23-26).


ROMANS 3 [30] Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith. [31] DO WE THEN MAKE VOID THE LAW THROUGH FAITH? GOD FORBID: yea, we establish the law.
 
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All scriptures out of Galatians. The book of Galatians is a book containing 6 very short chapters. In these 6 chapters circumcision is mentioned 16 times. The commandments are not mentioned once.
 
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"But when the time had fully come, God sent His Son, born of a woman, born under the law, to redeem those who were under the law." -- (Galatians 4:4-5).

Listen to your Redeemer

ISAIAH 48 [17] THUS SAITH THE LORD, THY REDEEMER, THE HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL; I am the LORD thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go.[18] O THAT THOU HADST HEARKENED TO MY COMMANDMENTS! then had thy peace been as a river, and thy righteousness as the waves of the sea:
 
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All scriptures out of Galatians. The book of Galatians is a book containing 6 very short chapters. In these 6 chapters circumcision is mentioned 16 times. The commandments are not mentioned once.
Something wrong with Galatians? The whole law is included in the book.

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Are you claiming Jesus is not our Redeemer?

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Do you place more esteem a day of the week differently than the other? I think you do. So does Paul. What day do you think some others are making a distinction about? Paul is talking about "a" day and not "days."

Now you said you would change your position. I doubt it.

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Your quote says "the" which is singular. Your commentary changes to plural "days." How can you be talking about the same thing as Paul? The subject of day is in a sentence all by its self. The next sentence talks about eating all by its self. We disagree based on Acts 15 alone.

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Who was Jesus talking to in Mat 23?

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Right, you are now under the supervision of the one who said, 'It is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for one jot or tittle of the Law to lose authority.'
Yes and Heb 7:12 alone is full proof jots and tittles of the law have indeed past.

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ROMANS 3 [30] Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith. [31] DO WE THEN MAKE VOID THE LAW THROUGH FAITH? GOD FORBID: yea, we establish the law.
How does your meaning square with 7:6 which says - But now we are delivered from the law...? You intend for us to believe we are obligated to the law.

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All scriptures out of Galatians. The book of Galatians is a book containing 6 very short chapters. In these 6 chapters circumcision is mentioned 16 times. The commandments are not mentioned once.
Are the commandments the law covenant? Moses says they are in Deuteronomy 4:13.
 
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The 7th day Sabbath rest applicable to Adam and to those at Sinai - would have originated in Genesis 2:1-3 just as you say.

But at the 'very least' the Hebrews 4 argument quotes from Psalms 96 saying that "there remains therefore a Sabbath rest for the people of God" - which means "at a minimum" it remains as it was in the time of David in Ps 96. But as you say - it actually remains from Genesis 2:1-3.

God's Sabbath rest that remains is not a 24 hour day of rest

Until you read what He said about it in Exodus 20:8-11. It has aways been the 7th day of the week and is in fact why we even HAVE 7 days in our week.

11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.

Spoken by God - to the people
Written by God - on stone.

Not "a perpetual, unceasing period of rest" - but rather 6 days of common work and one day of rest - "in real life".

Thus in Isaiah 66 we have TWO cycles for all mankind for all eternity even after the cross... in the New Earth " from New Moon to New Moon AND from Sabbath to Sabbath" not "every day and from New Moon to New Moon" as some have imagined it.

The seventh-day rest was only a temporary shadow .

On the contrary - for all mankind for all eternity even after the cross... in the New Earth - "from Sabbath to Sabbath shall ALL mankind come before Me to worship" Isaiah 66:23

The 7th day weekly Sabbath is a "memorial" not a "shadow".

8 “Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God; in it you shall not do any work

The argument "oh no it is not" or "oh no the 7th day is not the Sabbath of the LORD" -- is a short-lived argument in a sola-scriptura world.
 
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