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God's proper name

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Yahweh or Jehovah?

Why do you feel so?

PS don't be the one who picks, Jesus. I understand theological jargon, but thats not what I am asking. According to Exodus 3:14-15, 6:3-4, Ps 83:18 God gave his personal name to all generations to be remembered by. Now is that Yahweh or Jehovah in your estimation? Why?
 

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Yahweh or Jehovah?

Why do you feel so?

PS don't be the one who picks, Jesus. I understand theological jargon, but thats not what I am asking. According to Exodus 3:14-15, 6:3-4, Ps 83:18 God gave his personal name to all generations to be remembered by. Now is that Yahweh or Jehovah in your estimation? Why?

It's the same name. :confused:
Yahweh, or YHWH as it was written, is the Hebrew name, and Jehovah is the Latinised form. Just as Joshua is the Hebrew name and Jesus is the Greek, and Saul is Hebrew while Paul is Greek.
 
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Yeah, I got the "Abba" thing, but that's not a name. That's a status, a relationship. For instance, if I took my children to the store and they wandered off. I would expect them to go ask someone for help finding me. That person would want to know my name to help locate me. Them saying, his name is Father wouldn't help much there would be many fathers there. They would need to give my name in such an event.

I don't disagree that "Father" is a good way to address God, just wanting to know opinions as to his name. I received a reply in another forum on this question that was quite good and this poster said the name is probably closer to: Ya-hu-ah than either Yahweh or Jehovah.
 
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I received a reply in another forum on this question that was quite good and this poster said the name is probably closer to: Ya-hu-ah than either Yahweh or Jehovah.
As far as God is concerned it is all the same. Ya-hu-ah or Yah-shua or I AM or I AM THAT I AM. They are are the names of God, yet He has not limited Himself to just those. He is also:
Jehovah-jireh
Jehovah-rapha
Jehovah-nissi
Jehovah-shalom
Jehovah-ra-ah
Jehovah-tsidkenu
Jehovah-shammah
Jehovah-Elohim
 
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The name which He gave to Moses was (in Hebrew) "Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh", or "I am that I am" or "I will be what I will be".

Throughout the Old Testament the most prolific name, indeed that which is regarded as the Sacred Name is the Tetragrammaton ("the four letters") Yod Hah Vav Hah (YHVH or YHWH).

By Jesus' time Jewish tradition considered it inappropriate to speak or write the divine name carelessly, and so almost exclusively it was the high priest alone who spoke the name and only when he entered into the Holy of Holies on the Day of Atonement. The idea was that God's name was to be absolutely revered, and to be treated with absolute delicacy and respect. This tradition has preserved into the present day which is why if you see articles or blogs or even forum posts online many Jews will write G-d, G_d, or Gd instead of "God" because all things that have to do with God are to be treated with respect (in this case it's a precaution, because someone could print it out and then, say, throw the paper away which would be disrespectful). It's also why Jews often say "HaShem", HaShem is Hebrew for "the Name".

In the middle ages Jewish scholars came up with a system of pronunciation marks known as niqqud. Hebrew contains no written vowels, and thus right pronunciation is largely the result of knowing the language intimately, as Jewish scholars aimed to improve literacy in Hebrew among the Jewish diaspora they wanted more Jews to be able to read and right in Hebrew, especially to be able to read Torah. Niqqud effectively took the place of written vowels.

As far back as the Septuagint, centuries before Jesus, it was common to say "adonai" (lord) instead of the Name itself. The Septuagint, for example, renders the Divine Name as "kurios", that is, "lord". The New Testament, as it quotes the Septuagint, retains "kurios" where "YHVH" appears in the Hebrew text of the Old Testament.

When the Masoretes, the previously mentioned medieval scholars and scribes, used niqqud to aid in pronunciation of written Hebrew they used the niqqud for Adonai where YHVH was in the text. This was done so that the reader would know to say Adonai.

Christian scholars in late medieval Western Europe didn't seem to know this, and so when they transcribed the Hebrew into Latin characters it came out as Iehovah/Iahovah.

To give an idea of how this happened consider:

The Hebrew word Adonai contains only four consonants, Aleph, Dalet, Nun, and Yod or 'DNY, the niqqud vowel markings make it something like 'aDoNaY. The letters for the Tetragrammaton are YHVH, add the vowels and you get YaHoVaH or YeHoVaH, or in Latin Iehovah.

The 'J' is the result of consonantal 'i' becoming a 'j' in late medieval Latin. In English the 'j' took on a hard sound as in jam, jet, etc. And hence "Jehovah". A bizarre accident of linguistics that's hung around for a really long time.

So then how do we actually pronounce YHVH? Truth is we simply don't know. The pronunciation has long been lost in Judaism, though the Samaritans have continued to preserve the Name to this day. In Samaritan Hebrew it is pronounced as either Yahwe or Yahwa. Early Greek writers, such as the Church Fathers, transcribed the pronunciation as Iao.

Personally I call Him Father, Son, and Holy Spirit; and know the Son as Jesus Christ, our Lord.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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El Shaddai - -the Almighty Giver

Adonai- Lord

El Shaddai doesn't mean "Almighty Giver". Shaddai is often rendered as "Almighty" in English, largely because in Latin it was translated as "omnipotens" which in English literally means "all-powerful" or "all-mighty". But more specifically Shaddai refers to power and strength, that which can overcome. So "El Shaddai" as "God Almighty" is acceptable, and that's usually how it is translated. But I don't know where you are getting "Giver" from.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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El Shaddai doesn't mean "Almighty Giver". Shaddai is often rendered as "Almighty" in English, largely because in Latin it was translated as "omnipotens" which in English literally means "all-powerful" or "all-mighty". But more specifically Shaddai refers to power and strength, that which can overcome. So "El Shaddai" as "God Almighty" is acceptable, and that's usually how it is translated. But I don't know where you are getting "Giver" from.

-CryptoLutheran

Shaddai is always translated as "Almighty" in the KJV. and this Hebrew name of God emphasizes God's grace. God is the Great Giver. Shaddai is properly defined as the " All-Bountiful One."
When Abraham was ninety-nine years old, the Lord appeared to Abram and said to him, " I am Almighty God (El Shaddai ) walk before me and be blameless, and I will..multiply you exceedingly " -Gen 17:1-2 . As El Shaddai, the Almighty Giver, God promised to GIVE Abram and all descendants many great blessings.
God is sufficient, that is, to supply and GIVE all one's needs, and therefore by derivation " almighty ".
But God is concerned mostly that we treat all His names with reverence
 
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Yes, it is interesting to see how God is presented in such all-encompassing ways as the great "I AM" and as the ever self-existing One. Please don't call Him "daddy", though, as some irreverent ones are heard saying ---demeaning and disrespectful of the Creator-God!
 
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Yahweh or Jehovah?

Why do you feel so?

PS don't be the one who picks, Jesus. I understand theological jargon, but thats not what I am asking. According to Exodus 3:14-15, 6:3-4, Ps 83:18 God gave his personal name to all generations to be remembered by. Now is that Yahweh or Jehovah in your estimation? Why?

Neither. The "I-AM" is not a name it's an anti-name. The point is Moses asked God what's your name and his reply is that he is above names and above everything; he just is.
 
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