God's Name is Jealous

[kaytealyn411]

I've done some reading and i found something very interesting in the bible.

Exodus 34:14. Moses has trudged up Mount Sinai with a second pair of stone tablets, on which God will write the Ten Commandments. Moses and God engage in some repartee, then God says:

“For thou shalt worship no other god: for the lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God”

This is straight out of the King James Version. God reveals “his” own name: Jealous.

In the original Hebrew, the key words in this verse are shem and qanna’. According to one of the standard reference works in this area — A Concise Dictionary of the Words in the Hebrew Bible by James Strongs — shem is a noun meaning “name.” One of its specific denotations is “the Name (as designation of God).” The word qanna’ means “jealous” and is applied only to God.

Other English translations say the same basic thing as the King James Version. The New International Version gives it as: “Do not worship any other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.” The English Standard Version phrases it parenthetically: “(for you shall worship no other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God).” The New International Readers Version gives God a more relaxed feel: “Do not worship any other god. I am a jealous God. In fact, my name is Jealous.”

Please leave kind opinions.

 

[Jpark]

Interesting observation. The newer translations seem to diminish the importance of that verse.

It (Deut. 4:24) is the single answer for the supposed atrocities commanded by God in the OT. Numbers 25 is the best example.

God kills His own people with a plague until that is stopped through the actions of Phineas and He says to Moses:

Then the LORD spoke to Moses, saying, “Phinehas the son of Eleazar, the son of Aaron the priest, has turned away My wrath from the sons of Israel in that he was jealous with My jealousy among them, so that I did not destroy the sons of Israel in My jealousy.

Surely jealousy means concern. Claerly, if God was willing to resort to extreme measures, even death, to subdue idolatry and reinforce even the smallest commandments such as don't eat unclean animals, it shows that God cared not only about Israel's status but also their physical and spiritual health.

 

[WinBySurrender]

You're absolutely right, the passage says God's name is "Jealous." That is but one of many names by which God identifies, the most reverenced and holy name being Yahweh, "I am that I am." God uses this name in Exodus 3:24 and Jesus echoes it (to self-identify Himself as God) in John 8:58. One of the most fascinating studies in the Bible is the names of God. Last count I personally made was over a 100.

 

[Fireinfolding]

Interesting observation. The newer translations seem to diminish the importance of that verse.

It (Deut. 4:24) is the single answer for the supposed atrocities commanded by God in the OT. Numbers 25 is the best example.

God kills His own people with a plague until that is stopped through the actions of Phineas and He says to Moses:

Then the LORD spoke to Moses, saying, “Phinehas the son of Eleazar, the son of Aaron the priest, has turned away My wrath from the sons of Israel in that he was jealous with My jealousy among them, so that I did not destroy the sons of Israel in My jealousy.

Surely jealousy means concern. Claerly, if God was willing to resort to extreme measures, even death, to subdue idolatry and reinforce even the smallest commandments such as don't eat unclean animals, it shows that God cared not only about Israel's status but also their physical and spiritual health.

You can sorta catch the same thing here too

2Cr 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

Which is kool too because it speaks of the law of jealousy in numbers (in relation to the wife here

Numbers 5:30 Or when the spirit of jealousy cometh upon him, and he be jealous over his wife, and shall set the woman before the LORD, and the priest shall execute upon her all this law.

Then of here...

1Cr 10:22 Do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? are we stronger than he?

Provoked to the same here...

Psalm 78:58 For they provoked him to anger with their high places, and moved him to jealousy with their graven images.

Ezek 8:3 And he put forth the form of an hand, and took me by a lock of mine head; and the spirit lifted me up between the earth and the heaven, and brought me in the visions of God to Jerusalem, to the door of the inner gate that looketh toward the north; where was the seat of the image of jealousy, which provoketh to jealousy.

Zech 1:14 So the angel that communed with me said unto me, Cry thou, saying, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; I am jealous for Jerusalem and for Zion with a great jealousy.

A study of his jealousy is an interesting one too

 

[Fearless12]

This is beautiful... I don't know what else to say.

 

[Keachian]

looking at the hebrew I think the way we translate the tetragrammaton kind of interferes with what God is actually saying which is my name is Yahveh Qanna and I am a jealous God, I'm just starting hebrew so that may not be correct

 

[drjean]

I know just enough Hebrew to be dangerous (but I am learning to speak it too! ) Here's the background I know:

The truth is, however, sometimes jealously can be spoken of in a good sense. The word “jealous” is translated in the Old Testament from the Hebrew word qin’ah, and in the New Testament from the Greek word zelos. The root idea behind both words is that of “warmth” or “heat” (Forrester, 1996). The Hebrew word for jealousy carries with it the idea of “redness of the face that accompanies strong emotion” (Feinberg, 1942, p. 429)—whether right or wrong. Depending upon the usage of the word, it can be used to represent both a good and an evil passion. Three times in 1 Corinthians, Paul used this word in a good sense to encourage his brethren to “earnestly desire (zeeloúte)” spiritual gifts (12:31; 14:1,39). He obviously was not commanding the Corinthians to sin, but to do something that was good and worthwhile. Later, when writing to the church at Corinth, the apostle Paul was even more direct in showing how there was such a thing as “godly jealousy.”

Apologetics Press - Love is not Jealous, so Why is God?

 

[Fireinfolding]

I keep cutting this to simplify more, but there seems to be like comparisons, as with them so likewise with ourselves.

Like where Paul appeals to the provoking the Lord to jealousy


2Cr 10:22 Do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? are we stronger than he?

Here is where they did the same likewise...

Ezek 16:32 But as a wife that committeth adultery, which taketh strangers instead of her husband!

So as He was moved to jealousy (even as a man would be toward his wife, theres that desire to provoke back to jealousy) as here...

Duet 32:21 They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation.

Paul speaks of this provoking to jealousy here...

Romans 11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

Likewise Paul seems to speak much like a freind of the bridegroom the same here...

2Cr 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

However he feared after the same figure found in Eve...

2Cr 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

The first showing preferring "strangers" or turning aside for "another" for us, "another" (this way)

2Cr 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

And again...

Ezek 16:32 But as a wife that committeth adultery, which taketh strangers instead of her husband!

In respects to provoking the Lord to jealousy

With us, "another Jesus", "another spirit", "another doctrine", even "as strangers" (in the above) in a sense mirror "strange doctrines" somewhat, which makes sense in our "abiding" (In the doctrine of Christ) our continuance twofold both abiding in Him and His words.

So being jealous (whether of) a wife or as one espoused to (themselves) even as a man toward his own wife (He loves). Shows itself out of the bond of His love for her. His faithfulness, and His desire for her to be faithful to Him, with all her heart soul mind and strength, so to speak... if I put that right.

He "marvels" also how "soon removed" these were from him unto another

Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:


Good topic actually

 

[Emmy]

Dear Kaytealyn411. God is Love, and Galatians 6, vers 7, tells us, that God will not be mocked.
God will always be Love, but there is also " God`s eternal Law of Justice." It is known to us as: " What ye sow ye will also reap." Rewards for good, and fitting consequences for NOT good. Jealousy is certainly not Love, Kaytealyn. I say this with love. Greetings from Emmy, your sister in Christ.

 

[juvenissun]

Dear Kaytealyn411. God is Love, and Galatians 6, vers 7, tells us, that God will not be mocked.
God will always be Love, but there is also " God`s eternal Law of Justice." It is known to us as: " What ye sow ye will also reap." Rewards for good, and fitting consequences for NOT good. Jealousy is certainly not Love, Kaytealyn. I say this with love. Greetings from Emmy, your sister in Christ.

We like to say: God loves us so much and He gives His only begotten Son to die for us.

Now, how would God feel if we started to worship other gods?

Two reactions: One is that God will start to deal with us. And the other is God will start to deal with other gods. Both happened to the Jewish kingdoms, and both are reactions based on jealousy.

That is exactly what the jealousy of God is and that demonstrates exactly how God loves us. It is like a shepherd will try to fight the wolf, if the wolf is trying to harm his sheep. That shows the love of a shepherd.

One more thing: Jealousy is only for God, NOT for any of us. You jealous if you think you were God. If we are jealous, we sinned.

 

[Emmy]

Dear juvenissun. I say this with love. You asked us: " How would God feel if we started worshipping other gods?" Jealous?? God is above this hurtful and revenge-wanting feeling, we so often suffer from. If we turned away from God, His Love for us would turn to sadness and deep hurt. God is our Heavenly Father, and God would do all to win our Love back again. God Is Love, the Greeks call it Agape, and it is as far from jealousy, as God is from other gods. Greetings from Emmy, your sister in Christ.

 

[juvenissun]

Dear juvenissun. I say this with love. You asked us: " How would God feel if we started worshipping other gods?" Jealous?? God is above this hurtful and revenge-wanting feeling, we so often suffer from. If we turned away from God, His Love for us would turn to sadness and deep hurt. God is our Heavenly Father, and God would do all to win our Love back again. God Is Love, the Greeks call it Agape, and it is as far from jealousy, as God is from other gods. Greetings from Emmy, your sister in Christ.

God has a special (glorious) purpose for us. If we betrayed Him, he will punish us forever and He will also punish those who strayed us away.

That is called Jealous. I don't see anything wrong with it.

 

[B-74]

God loves us, of course He is jealous. Im glad Hes a jealous God. It means His love is real.

Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

 

[jpcedotal]

I wrote a paper on the first verse of the Bible and in it I tried to the best of my ability to define what the word God ('ĕlôhı̂ym pronounced el-o-heem') means.

The root meanings of the Hebrew word for God are words like everlasting, binding, firm, strong, power, worship and mightyhttp://www.christianforums.com/#_edn1. All are very good descriptive words for God but the one word study for God I like best of all is from Scofield:

"El", means "strength", or "the strong one", and "Alah", "to swear", "to bind oneself by an oath", so implying "faithfulness"[ii]

God, the strong one to whom I should bind myself to by oath.

To me, that is just about the best way to say it. Even His name demands us to surrender ourselves and our “ways” to Him, in order to be receptive when God offers that non-breakable relationship to us.

[FONT=&quot][/FONT] Albert Barnes' Notes on the Bible by Albert Barnes (1798-1870); John Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible by Dr. John Gill (1690-1771); A Commentary on the Old and New Testaments by Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset and David Brown

[FONT=&quot][ii][/FONT] Scofield Reference Notes (1917 Edition) by Cyrus Ingerson Scofield (1843-1921)

 

[Silvanus1]

I've done some reading and i found something very interesting in the bible.

Exodus 34:14. Moses has trudged up Mount Sinai with a second pair of stone tablets, on which God will write the Ten Commandments. Moses and God engage in some repartee, then God says:

“For thou shalt worship no other god: for the lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God”

This is straight out of the King James Version. God reveals “his” own name: Jealous.

In the original Hebrew, the key words in this verse are shem and qanna’. According to one of the standard reference works in this area — A Concise Dictionary of the Words in the Hebrew Bible by James Strongs — shem is a noun meaning “name.” One of its specific denotations is “the Name (as designation of God).” The word qanna’ means “jealous” and is applied only to God.

Other English translations say the same basic thing as the King James Version. The New International Version gives it as: “Do not worship any other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.” The English Standard Version phrases it parenthetically: “(for you shall worship no other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God).” The New International Readers Version gives God a more relaxed feel: “Do not worship any other god. I am a jealous God. In fact, my name is Jealous.”

Please leave kind opinions.

God refers many times to Israel as a bride-to-be. The fact that He says that they should not worship any other God is like saying "you shall have no other 'boyfriends.' besides me." If one were in a relationship I would think that we would prefer that the other party not be dating someone else. So we would at least be a little jealous, reasonably. That's what I think anyway.