Im confident that the atheists here have heard all the arguments.
I would just say that an argument is convincing if its sound.
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I'm happy you're interested in seeing arguments for the existence of God.
I think for you and I, it would be better if we came to some sort of agreement first on what type of argument it would take for you to abandon atheism for theism. What makes an argument good or bad to you? I think first, an argument needs to be logically valid. I secondly think that the premises need to be more plausibly true than their opposites.
Do you agree with those two?
I'm happy you're interested in seeing arguments for the existence of God. I think for you and I, it would be better if we came to some sort of agreement first on what type of argument it would take for you to abandon atheism for theism. What makes an argument good or bad to you? I think first, an argument needs to be logically valid. I secondly think that the premises need to be more plausibly true than their opposites.
Do you agree with those two?
The inability to traverse an actual infinite number of moments prior to the present moment simply implies that if there is such a thing as "this present moment" then the number of moments prior to said present moment cannot be infinite but finite. This would imply that time itself began at some finite point in the past, a conclusion that has been confirmed by scientific observation and a point which the author of Genesis made long before people had the means of making such scientific observations.
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I'm happy you're interested in seeing arguments for the existence of God. I think for you and I, it would be better if we came to some sort of agreement first on what type of argument it would take for you to abandon atheism for theism. What makes an argument good or bad to you? I think first, an argument needs to be logically valid. I secondly think that the premises need to be more plausibly true than their opposites.
Do you agree with those two?
Im confident that the atheists here have heard all the arguments.
I would just say that an argument is convincing if its sound.
Just as I suspected. You're here to be entertained. You're not really here because you are seeking the truth.The enjoyment of asking people to support their claims.
On this site, that can be highly entertaining.
And many philosophical thoughts and books before scientific observation, just because people thought time had a beginning does not make it divinely inspired.
But you waffled but didn't answer my question, why would infinity mean there could not be a present, and does that mean your god cannot exist at any present moment ?
He sure does know exactly what it would take.Presumably your god would know what would convince people. How could anyone possibly tell you what evidence they would accept for an invisible made up creature even believers define as 'beyond human understanding'
Just as I suspected. You're here to be entertained. You're not really here because you are seeking the truth.
here is my favorite argument for the existence of god:In order for an argument to be sound, the premises must be true and the conclusion must follow logically from them.
Do you agree?
He sure does know exactly what it would take.
Your question is a loaded one by the way. If someone thinks God is an invisible made up creature of their own imagination, then I doubt they would spend time asking people for evidence for this imaginary being.
Nor have I ever claimed that God is beyond human understanding.
We are not talking about infinity.
We are talking about an "actual infinite".
And no you've given no reason to think that it would follow from the inability to traverse an actual infinite that God does not exist at the present moment.
why not actually?
Just as I suspected. You're here to be entertained. You're not really here because you are seeking the truth.
In order for an argument to be sound, the premises must be true and the conclusion must follow logically from them.
Do you agree?
That's the definition of "sound" in this context.
Do you agree with my view that when it comes to the premises in an argument, they must be merely more plausibly true than their negation?
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