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Yes it does.
For example, i dont need faith to agree with evolution, i have boatloads of reliable objective evidence. I dont need faith to believe my computer will work and or the lights will go on when i flip the switch, as i have the same evidence as to the how and why these things work, that can be verified outside of my opinion.
Now, i will need faith my team will win the world series this year and or, that i will win lotto one day.
Do you have any positive claims to make regarding those topics I asked you about?
I believe, jesus was likely a real historical figure, who was preaching mostly forgiveness and caring for others. I believe peoples morals are mostly driven by societal expectations, since we have evolved as social beings and getting along aids in survival of the species. Evil and sin, are mostly religious driven terms that i do not use. People do bad things for a variety of reasons; being placed in desperate situations and personal psyche being another big driver. The reason there is something is something i dont know. When and if i do and i have valid reasons to support a position, i will let you know. Destiny is also a term i dont use, because it implies a pre planned outcome. How are lives turn out, is determine by our own behavior and also other forces in society that are out of our control.
By what means did you acquire this reliable objective evidence for evolution?
That you for the thoughtful response.
You said you believed that Jesus was likely a historical figure who preached forgiveness and caring for others. Very good. We agree.
But why do you think that? How did you come to that conclusion is what I am asking.
The same place i get evidence to understand the theory of gravity, germ theory etc. It is called science. You know, the same place people like francis collins, the devout christian, physician and former head of the human genome projects gets his evidence, to have such strong support of evolution. If i wasnt on my phone, i would post this scientific evidence for you. But it has been posted on this site, countless times.
And in order to use that method, what do we trust in, rely on, commit to, depend on etc. Etc?Scientific method
The trust that the method works, when used correctly and is reliable.
Take a moment and think of every hour of everyday and the fact you enjoy so many different things, because the scientific method works and can be tested. So, the trust comes from testable results.
You recall incorrectly, and on top you make it look like I had been challenging you. You came here claiming to have evidence for the existence of God, so I asked you to bring it to the table.If I recall correctly, you were asking for evidence. Evidence that would demonstrate to you that Jesus rose bodily from the dead on the Sunday morning following His crucifixion.
Your false claim that I called you upon was about something else (post #424: "Exceptional claims, as in, claims that cannot be true. That's what you mean when you say "exceptional claims".), and we both know it. After your false claim had been exposed you went on a long unrelated tangent about my sig-line and then you suddenly added this "miracle-evidence" thing, and are now pretending that this was the false claim I had called you upon.If you think miracles are something that can be evidenced, then I will apologize for claiming you didn't think that.
Scientists rely on data collected from instruments and methods that can be independently tested for accuracy.
Sure I can have my cake and eat it too. Philo didn't record anything about John the Baptist, but surely someone like Philo knew about him, being that he was in the proximity of the Herodians and all.
And didn't you say that Philo wrote about 'minor' religious figures? It's funny that he didn't mention John the Baptist---but Josephus did. Go figure. So, it sounds like you are really stretching your assurance as to just what Philo would have written when, as issues of historiography go, we don't really know for sure just what Philo would have written...other than things related to his philosophical theology and to his familial relationships in Alexandria and Palestine.
So, let's get this straight. Philo doesn't mention John, but Josephus does. Philo doesn't mention Jesus, but Josephus probably did mention at least some little tid bit about Jesus, despite all of the hem and haw from critics that the passage has some additional fabrication to it. Something's fishy here, and I think it's our expectation that Philo cared all that much about Jesus, his entourage, or his affiliates, and hence, we find that Philo says nothing.
Peace,
2PhiloVoid
Because rationality can only come from a rational source and free will can only occur if our mind is not bound to physical laws.
No, I have. Go back and read my post about how chemistry and the mind work.
Yes, it does because if there was no evidence for it, then that would be evidence against Christianity.
Prove that I provided a bunch of non-sequiturs and red herrings.
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