God/Santa

[prayerposition17]

As we all would know, If you're naughty, you get coal, if you're nice, you get presents. Santa's little karma humour.

If you sin, you goto hell, if you follow morality and amend your sins, you go to heaven. A Godly trait.


The very shocking part is the horribly close similarities. We shall compare the two.

Santa: Rewards the good, shuns the bad.
God: Rewards the good, shuns the bad.
Santa: Fictional character?
God: Fictional character?

Those are the two backbone facts. There are about five hundred more I would assume.

Anyone else find it odd how our creator also flies around the world distributing presents to children?

As we all know, Santa does not exist. He is actually our parents/spouse. And by all means, God is Santa, so therefore God must not exist. Or in fact every single person is "God". Your parents, grand-parents, sisters, brothers, friends, enemies...

Further evidence of falsified hope. And for the trivia buff, Re-arranging Santa by moving the 'n' makes Satan. So God is Satan, and Satan is God. Does this not explain for all the wrath and sorrow with a hint of good and perfect in our world?

 

[joebudda]

I thought this was going to be good until you called God a Fictional character and then claimed it as fact. After that it just went down hill from there. I would like to see your proof, when no one else has ever be able to prove either way.

 

[Faith In God]

Santa does not have holy standards, as God does. Santa was thought up by human minds and based off of a saint: Nicolas. But God is and no one can claim that as fiction, buddy.

 

[Salsa_1960]

God doesn't reward the good and shun the bad.

For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-- not by works, so that no one can boast. (Ephesians 2:8,9)

For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. (Romans 3:23)

But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:8)

For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. (Romans 6:23)
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[Salvashen]

As we all would know, If you're naughty, you get coal, if you're nice, you get presents. Santa's little karma humour.

If you sin, you goto hell, if you follow morality and amend your sins, you go to heaven. A Godly trait.


The very shocking part is the horribly close similarities. We shall compare the two.

Santa: Rewards the good, shuns the bad.
God: Rewards the good, shuns the bad.
Santa: Fictional character?
God: Fictional character?

Those are the two backbone facts. There are about five hundred more I would assume.

Anyone else find it odd how our creator also flies around the world distributing presents to children?

As we all know, Santa does not exist. He is actually our parents/spouse. And by all means, God is Santa, so therefore God must not exist. Or in fact every single person is "God". Your parents, grand-parents, sisters, brothers, friends, enemies...

Further evidence of falsified hope. And for the trivia buff, Re-arranging Santa by moving the 'n' makes Satan. So God is Satan, and Satan is God. Does this not explain for all the wrath and sorrow with a hint of good and perfect in our world?

There are very few similarities between God and santa, however, i shall not point out the obvious. But I have to agree that God never shuns the "bad" children.

While santa gives gifts to everyone, God only gives the gift of eternal life to those who believe. Also, last I checked, God does not "fly" around the world giving "gifts" to people. We are drawn to God, called by His love to accept Him, not given it to us down a chimney. Your argument seems to lack a lot of evidence which could make a more powerful relation. Goodluck in making one though. Might be interesting to see what you find.

 

[prayerposition17]

God was created by humans don't forget your roots! And retake your english classes, and look at the metaphors.

 

[challenger]

God is and no one can claim that as fiction, buddy.

"Man, having made God in his own image, proceded to mutilate him further" - P-J Proudhon, What is Property?

 

[prayerposition17]

Well if god is santa claus then you'll all get good presents and i'll get coal, so it's win win for all of you. But neither exists so it depends on money really...world's curse.

 

[Miss Shelby]

When I was a kid my parents always told me if I was bad was not going to get anything from Santee Clause. I did not behave any better due to that threat alone, and I still got presents from Santee Clause.

Here's another spin on the Santee thing...maybe it is really an allegoric way of saying 'Once Saved, Always Saved'

LOL!

Michelle

 

[Lavis Knight]

Santa: Rewards the good, shuns the bad.
God: Rewards the good, shuns the bad.
Santa: Fictional character?
God: Fictional character?

I believe you have drawn a false conclusion, just because a fictional thing is similar to another thing does not make the other thing fictional as well.

Could i not say the same thing about Karma? Does it not reward the good and shun the bad? Or how about something that we know is acutally real, how about a loving parent? Does not a loving parent reward good behaviour and shun bad behaviour, how about the police? Are all these things fictional too because they correspond in the same manner?

If you wish to falsify God you'll need a better argument.

Those are the two backbone facts. There are about five hundred more I would assume.

Anyone else find it odd how our creator also flies around the world distributing presents to children?

I don't quite understand where your going with this, although God certainly in Christian theology doesn't "fly" around. God may however answer prayer... although i find it odd that you would compare prayer to distributing presents when your screen name is "prayer position".

As we all know, Santa does not exist. He is actually our parents/spouse. And by all means, God is Santa, so therefore God must not exist. Or in fact every single person is "God". Your parents, grand-parents, sisters, brothers, friends, enemies...

God is Santa? How do you draw that assertion? I see no support for your argument, every single person could be God and some people believe that. Although i see no support for that conclusion either.

Further evidence of falsified hope. And for the trivia buff, Re-arranging Santa by moving the 'n' makes Satan. So God is Satan, and Satan is God. Does this not explain for all the wrath and sorrow with a hint of good and perfect in our world?

How does it? I could spell God backwards and get Dog, does this mean that God's form is that of a Dog?

Your limiting yourself too much here, for one the english language hasn't always been around and why would variations of the english language lead one to truth about God? Can you qualify your assertion as to why such truth would only emerge now with the english language?

 

[prayerposition17]

I do not think it would be best to write in another language on AN ENGLISH WEBSITE.

And I'm sorry if I have offended any of you, I am just further completeing my analysis on the Christian religion and theories put foreward. Anything or everythying that challenges there might not be a God, it becomes rhetorical quesiton period. Never straight out facts. All fictional. Just like the basis of all religion.

Karma is the same. Except it deals with what you do in your lives/past lives can come back at you and reward or cause discern.

And prayer position is an Afi song. A band which deals with vast religious ideas.

 

[Lavis Knight]

I do not think it would be best to write in another language on AN ENGLISH WEBSITE.

You seem to misunderstand me, i am merely asking why would the english language have such constructs hidden within itself?

It is a false assertion because i could put just about anything together with the arguments you use based on language.

And I'm sorry if I have offended any of you, I am just further completeing my analysis on the Christian religion and theories put foreward. Anything or everythying that challenges there might not be a God, it becomes rhetorical quesiton period. Never straight out facts. All fictional. Just like the basis of all religion.

How can you say that the basis of all religion is fictional? How do you get such ultimate knowledge and how can you be sure without creating your own dogma?

Karma is the same. Except it deals with what you do in your lives/past lives can come back at you and reward or cause discern.

So then why is karma not fictional while everything else to do with religion is?

And prayer position is an Afi song. A band which deals with vast religious ideas.

However even your current smilie thingy says your in prayer, so then why would you invalidate that which you claim you do yourself?

 

[prayerposition17]

You would think that.

Alright. I will be first to admit how pathetic my arguments are. But I believe it's a clever way of showing how much fantasy God is. If saying something like SANTA CLAUS of all things will spite defence, I would imagine putting effort into proof would be even more threatening.

And by no means will I claim karma is true or the right way. It's a choice of belief that makes more sense too me. I personally think all religion is false hope and excuses. But that's just me.

 

[joebudda]

You would think that.

Alright. I will be first to admit how pathetic my arguments are. But I believe it's a clever way of showing how much fantasy God is. If saying something like SANTA CLAUS of all things will spite defence, I would imagine putting effort into proof would be even more threatening.

And by no means will I claim karma is true or the right way. It's a choice of belief that makes more sense too me. I personally think all religion is false hope and excuses. But that's just me.

I am still waiting for your proof of fact that you claimed.

You claim to be Buddhist, I would be willing to bet you know very little about that as well.

 

[prayerposition17]

Alright ask away O mighty one.

Actually that'st very true. I do not like to research into topics I am openly looking for an argument for. Cause that would be stupid. And to pretend to be buddhist. My God, what am I thinking?!

But okay, you may go ahead with you little quiz, I do not want you to feel left out and as if I am openly ignorant to all religion.

 

[joebudda]

Alright ask away O mighty one.

Actually that'st very true. I do not like to research into topics I am openly looking for an argument for. Cause that would be stupid. And to pretend to be buddhist. My God, what am I thinking?!

But okay, you may go ahead with you little quiz, I do not want you to feel left out and as if I am openly ignorant to all religion.

I only pose the same question.

Prove to me that God is a fictional character. You did claim it as fact.

Your claims are mighty bold, is it not too much to ask for you to provide proof?

 

[prayerposition17]

Oh I gotcha. No problem. Humans (which i assume are men) created the the idea of a creator. Now, forgive me if I am wrong, but when a human (man) creates something, usually it is fiction, therefore a God is no exception. Assuming man was behind the idea. So in a way if I even believed in God I would be Agnostic.

To totally clear up your question. Whomever started this mighty creator, made it up. Which makes it fiction.

 

[nadroj1985]

Oh I gotcha. No problem. Humans (which i assume are men) created the the idea of a creator. Now, forgive me if I am wrong, but when a human (man) creates something, usually it is fiction, therefore a God is no exception. Assuming man was behind the idea. So in a way if I even believed in God I would be Agnostic.

To totally clear up your question. Whomever started this mighty creator, made it up. Which makes it fiction.

Your second point follows your first. However, your first point is completely unsupported. If you could prove that someone "made up" God, I might believe you. You can't do that, however.

 

[joebudda]

Oh I gotcha. No problem. Humans (which i assume are men) created the the idea of a creator. Now, forgive me if I am wrong, but when a human (man) creates something, usually it is fiction, therefore a God is no exception. Assuming man was behind the idea. So in a way if I even believed in God I would be Agnostic.

To totally clear up your question. Whomever started this mighty creator, made it up. Which makes it fiction.

It sounds to be as if you have a theory with no evidence.

A theory with no evidence is just an idea.

So claiming you know something as fact yet once again you provide no evidence. So where does that leave us. You are starting a discussion with no foundation or support for your argument.

 

[prayerposition17]

Okay. So. The previous two posts basically says: " People were born knowing God and that he exists. People worshiped him the minute they were alive."

That is all good and finite if you want to live by no evidence. Most people believe in God because that is all that they know. They accept this too, it's just the way of life. So where has your argument gone? Did something else conjure up God? Obviously someone composed the idea of a God. Or there would be none. The answer is right in your face, yet religion and the consequences restrict choice and individuality.