God is omnipresent

[tonychanyt]

Human beings are physically localized at a space-time coordinate. We can't be at two places at the same time. God is not bound by space-time. Moreover, God is everywhere. Psalm 139:

7 Where can I go to escape Your Spirit? Where can I flee from Your presence?
8 If I ascend to the heavens, You are there; if I make my bed in Sheol, You are there.
9 If I rise on the wings of the dawn, if I settle by the farthest sea,
10 even there Your hand will guide me; Your right hand will hold me fast.
11 If I say, “Surely the darkness will hide me, and the light become night around me”—
12 even the darkness is not dark to You, but the night shines like the day, for darkness is as light to You.

God is omnipresent means that God's presence is everywhere.

There is another sense of God's presence, i.e., a special presence of God. Are we in God?

Yes, John 14:

20 In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you.

This is beyond the pervasive presence in space-time and into the holy presence of the spiritual dimension.

Is God in us?

Yes, 1 Corinthians 3:

16 Do you not know that you are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in you?

 

[ingridguerci94]

Human beings are physically localized at a space-time coordinate. We can't be at two places at the same time. God is not bound by space-time. Moreover, God is everywhere. Psalm 139:


God is omnipresent means that God's presence is everywhere.

There is another sense of God's presence, i.e., a special presence of God. Are we in God?

Yes, John 14:


This is beyond the pervasive presence in space-time and into the holy presence of the spiritual dimension anime xxx.

Is God in us?

Yes, 1 Corinthians 3:

God's omnipresence is not understood in a spatial or corporeal sense, as God is not a body. It is understood that God is present to all things as the cause of their being. In the Summa (ST I, Q8, A1), Aquinas says God is in all things by His power, presence, and essence. God's "consciousness," to use your term, is not localized or limited; it is an attribute of His infinite intellect, which knows all things in a single, eternal act of understanding.

 

[tonychanyt]

God's omnipresence is not understood in a spatial or corporeal sense, as God is not a body. It is understood that God is present to all things as the cause of their being.

In what sense Moses saw God's back?

 

[Bobber]

In what sense Moses saw God's back?

I'd say in a true sense and when one tries to dream up weird work arounds with big impressive words I think all know nice try but one is making that up. So how can one argue God can be everywhere at once but be in a localized space????

You do actually have an example of this in the natural realm. Our Sun is located 93 million miles away.....that's where it is! But what do people mean however when they say they're giong out to lay in the Sun? Are they lying? No of course not. They mean the Sun is here too because of it's all encompassing radiation. Both statements can be said and be true but one must understand the context. God is everywhere in the universe by the way of his all encompassing Spirit and glory which fills both Heaven and Earth!

So am I saying God being a Spirit actually has a form we'd call a body? YES. But he is still everywhere at once by his all encompassing GLORY or we can say what radiates off of him. Glory is everywhere it fills both the heavens in the earth......it still is right up there in things that are hard to comprehend BUT it does however provide a concept where our minds can at least accept what I'm saying.

Well a ball in the sky (our Sun) one might say I can understand it's realty can extend beyond itself locally.....it is after all what we call energy. YES....well.....when we say God is omnipotent what are we saying that's different.

 

[tonychanyt]

I'd say in a true sense

but not in the spatial sense?

So how can one argue God can be everywhere at once but be in a localized space????

God is everywhere in the pervasive sense of presence. There is also a special sense of God's presence. It is a divine mystery. Are you able to distinguish between these two senses?

 

[Bobber]

but not in the spatial sense?

It can be but it doesn't have to be. Maybe a way to think about it is like the idea of space having great distances.....but if like a piece of paper you can take one end, and fold it over to touch the far end, the one end can be touching and be a part of the other far end at the same time.

 

[tonychanyt]

It can be but it doesn't have to be.

Let proposition P1 = Moses wandered about in the wilderness locally in spatial coordinates.

True?