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So much for the jots and tittles argument of Mat 5.Mistakenly, I have heard many say YESHUA Himself broke the Sabbath
and they will quote or site this verse as their proof
Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill Him, because He not only had broken the Sabbath, but said also that Elohiym was His Father, making Himself equal with EL. John 5:18
G3089 λύω lyō translated as broken here is translated 27 times as Loose and only 5 times as break or a variation thereof in an attempted legitimacy, fueled by bias.
When Lazarus came out of the Tomb, Yeshua said to lyō him from the grave clothes
YESHUA Loosened all the man-made restrictions of the religious rulers, how many steps on the Sabbath was allowed, can't carry your mat on the Sabbath, everything that went beyond what was written was loosed
and nothing else
Even the restrictions of today are loosed, like push an elevator button, turn on a light switch, flush the toilet.
It is permissible even among the orthodox Jews to work on the Sabbath in hospitals, emergency rooms, to save life... This exception they have just To cover their own behinds in case they have need of these services....ox in ditch and circumcision examples YESHUA gave.
This also means the power grid that supplies the energy can't be turned off either for the Greater Good..... But don't count on it always being up, carrington event, Emp etc.
You have to have Balance, provided by the scriptures
But unless it is an emergency, best not to spend money, handle money, buy or sell on the Sabbath
Only one time was there a command to not go from your dwelling place on the Sabbath, and it was for that One time...
YESHUA taught in the synagogues on the Sabbath
So instead of doing what you usually do for six days just to survive
Do this, and see what happens Isaiah 56:2-5 Isaiah 58:13-14
Mark 2:27
Interesting since it is never argued this way.I am pretty sure this means He changes the seasons, like summer into fall, fall into winter and winter into spring. Not changes His Holy convocations. Nebuchadnezzar was a pagan and so Daniel is introducing the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in this passage right before he interprets the dream.
Daniel answered and said:
“Blessed be the name of God forever and ever,
For wisdom and might are His.
21 And He changes the times and the seasons;
He removes kings and raises up kings;
He gives wisdom to the wise
And knowledge to those who have understanding.
22 He reveals deep and secret things;
He knows what is in the darkness,
And light dwells with Him.
23 “I thank You and praise You,
O God of my fathers;
You have given me wisdom and might,
And have now made known to me what we asked of You,
For You have made known to us the king’s demand.”
I fail to see what your post has to do with the discussion other than you're making an accusation. That is forbidden here by the rules. Its called attacking the poster.
bugkiller
So what is being relayed here happens on the first day of the week. BTW they weren't in the synagogue.The beginning of the day is at sundown, so they must have been gathered already on the Sabbath until sundown.
There's no truth to that idea that the Jews spoke about time that way then.Good Friday to Resurrection does count as 3 days and nights according to the way the Jews spoke about time then.
I have no idea what you're talking about.Yes, but as I said the scales of justice should be balanced. God hates unjust scales.
hogwashThere's no truth to that idea that the Jews spoke about time that way then.
That falsehood was entirely made up by the enemy of Christ and then perpetrated through the last many centuries by those who didn't care for the Truth.
Yes, well, I do admit I don't know what they are looking for ....
He replied to your post in which you brought it up.Why then are you bringing it up?
So what is being relayed here happens on the first day of the week
Where do you get this idea from? I see several complete sentences with different subjects.Because if you read Romans 14 through Hebrew eyes, Paul is not a flip flopper... The context is Fasting and Not Fasting on certain days, some hold these days in high esteem, while others do not, Judah for example remembers these days by Fasting
Where do you get this idea from? I see several complete sentences with different subjects.
bugkiller
Sorry but given the context of the previous verses about rest I don't see how Sabbath keeping remains. Doesn't make sense to me.Really, You didn't use Hebrews 4, besides there not being a single command or prophecy in all of scripture that the Sabbath that was set-apart at the beginning would ever change... nonsense, gibberish to the maximus
Hebrews 4:9 says that there remains a Sabbatismos for the people of GOD
Sabbatismos = Keeping Sabbath, the future Rest is the Millennium, even though we have entered His rest, It is Finished (sin debt paid)...We Keep the Sabbath, showing He is the Creator, 6 days 6 thousand years, and that there is one more covenant, The Seventh Covenant, The Seventh day, thousand year Reign of Yeshua, The covenant of Peace.
and That's why it Remains for the believer
Blessed and Holy is he that has part in the first resurrection 7th day
+ 1000 years, the second resurrection, the 8th day = Eternity
Yes but the covenant containing the 7th day Sabbath was replaced by a new covenant as promised by Jeremiah and said to be in existence by Jesus in 3 Gospels.It does seem like a one-man mission when the subject discussed is being brought back to Sunday constantly. The subject of the thread is sabbath change now, not day of the week change. The veil of 2 Corinthians 3:13-15 is about being brought into the Presence of the new high priest, Heb 4 that you have made the point is not Sunday. May we move on?
It appears to me that this, and much of this thread, just doesn't square with (line up with) all Scripture.As one who does not go to church Saturday or Sunday but rather am in His Word as He leads.
I feel that these scriptures in the first two posts of the OP where given to me recently. I firmly believe now that God did change the days to honor the firstfruit of the new creation over the old creation's celebration.. This is the new sabbath and there is another to come. Was, is and is to come
Simply amazing.I love how you come in, without reading the whole thread and then ask me why I am bringing up Sunday. Did you actually read the thread? You sure seemed to get to the end quick, so I assume you did. Also love how Littlelambofjesus "likes" all your rantings, although they are hardly justified. Thanks, to you both.
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