God as our creator.

[sentipente]

Yes, I did. My apologies if my question was not clear.

We've been showing you from the beginning the many ways in which your question is inadequate.

 

[Byfaithalone1]

We've been showing you from the beginning the many ways in which your question is inadequate.

Your view of me as inadequate has been rather transparent since I first appeared in this forum. Yet I notice that there still is no answer to my question.

Q: Do you believe that God, whoever you believe Him (or Her) to be, is creator? If so, why?

BFA

 

[sentipente]

Your view of me as inadequate has been rather transparent since I first appeared in this forum. Yet I notice that there still is no answer to my question.

Q: Do you believe that God, whoever you believe Him (or Her) to be, is creator? If so, why?

BFA

I have a Creator. I don't have a god.

 

[Avonia]

Yes, I did. My apologies if my question was not clear.

Q: Do you believe that God, whoever you believe Him (or Her) to be, is creator? If so, why?

BFA

That's a completely different question than the one you posted in the OP. I was highly interested in the question about knowing. Almost giddy. It was the best question you've asked.

But with the "belief" revision - not so much. Inquiry is difficult. Belief is cheap.

 

[Byfaithalone1]

Belief is cheap.

Arrogance is even cheaper . . . .

Inquiry is difficult.

I've made inquiry. You can see what that has gotten me.

That's a completely different question than the one you posted in the OP.

No. Not really. I'm interested in understanding the thought process behind the belief or the pursuit of knowledge. Either way I go, I hit a brick wall.

I was highly interested in the question about knowing. Almost giddy. It was the best question you've asked.

You mean that as a compliment--right?

But with the "belief" revision - not so much.

So you need only answer questions that interest you? Those that don't interest you aren't worthy of your time? Duly noted.

BFA

 

[Byfaithalone1]

I have a Creator. I don't have a god.

Thank you for offering a direct answer. I really appreciate it.

Who is your creator? Can you describe him or her?

BFA

 

[sentipente]

That's like asking a computer to describe its creator. Different worlds.

 

[Byfaithalone1]

That's like asking a computer to describe its creator. Different worlds.

Though we will never capture the essence of the creator with human language, is it acceptable to explore with words who he (or she or it) is?

BFA

 

[Avonia]

Arrogance is even cheaper . . . .

That's not very kind. But if you needed to say it, so be it.

You mean that as a compliment--right?

I did.

 

[Byfaithalone1]

That's not very kind.

True. It wasn't. I owe you an apology. As way of explanation (not justification), I suppose I'm growing weary of jumping through hoops and then still hitting a brick wall. All I want is dialogue. How can we commence a dialogue on the original post? Since you cannot abide my approach, feel free to offer an alternative that would move us past all of the posturing and into a real discussion.

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[Avonia]

True. It wasn't. I owe you an apology. As way of explanation (not justification), I suppose I'm growing weary of jumping through hoops and then still hitting a brick wall. All I want is dialogue. How can we commence a dialogue on the original post? Since you cannot abide my approach, feel free to offer an alternative that would move us past all of the posturing and into a real discussion.

BFA

No worries. I appreciate your presence here.

We know there is a creator because there is creation. For me, what's intriguing is how we know Creator.

The more knowing I have, the fewer conclusions I tend to make. It's such a beautiful thing - and so hard to put into words. If there is one statement - or conclusion - that still feels appropriate, it's "God Is."

 

[Byfaithalone1]

No worries. I appreciate your presence here.

We know there is a creator because there is creation. For me, what's intriguing is how we know Creator.

The more knowing I have, the fewer conclusions I tend to make. It's such a beautiful thing - and so hard to put into words. If there is one statement - or conclusion - that still feels appropriate, it's "God Is."

Now we're talking . . . .

How do we know that things were created?

BFA

 

[AzA]

We know because we are [here].

 

[sentipente]

Though we will never capture the essence of the creator with human language, is it acceptable to explore with words who he (or she or it) is?

BFA

You should bear in mind that people don't always look like their picture.

 

[Avonia]

Now we're talking . . . .

How do we know that things were created?

BFA

How do we know that we are in love?

Here's a different question. How do we know as creation?

 

[sentipente]

All I want is dialogue. How can we commence a dialogue on the original post? Since you cannot abide my approach, feel free to offer an alternative that would move us past all of the posturing and into a real discussion.

BFA

You can start by taking our comments seriously. If you really want dialogue you should recognize that you have found accomplished practitioners of the art in ASSA.

Oh, that stands for Aza, Statre, Stormy, Avonia.

 

[Byfaithalone1]

How do we know that we are in love?

Has there ever been a person who was in love? How would we know? Just because someone says they've been in love?

Q: Aren't there a number of people who know that they were not created? Do they know something that we do not?

Here's a different question. How do we know as creation?

I don't follow the question. Not dodging it; just don't understand it. Please clarify.

BFA

 

[Byfaithalone1]

You can start by taking our comments seriously.

That should be a 2-way street; should it not? Questions should be taken as seriously as comments.

BFA

 

[Byfaithalone1]

We know because we are [here].

Aren't there those who are [here] (they exist, are on this planet, etc.) who know that they were not created?

BFA

 

[Byfaithalone1]

If you really want dialogue you should recognize that you have found accomplished practitioners of the art in ASCA.

The Austrailian Shepherd Club of America?
The Association of State Correctional Administrators?
The American School Counselor Association?
The American Swimming Coaches Association?
The American Society of Consulting Arborists?
The American Safe Climbing Association?

Do you guys have your own club or something?

BFA