God amassed the Sun, attaching Earth and then setting it ablaze, while Creation went into a cocoon

[Gottservant]

Hi there,

So there are four parts to this beginning: gravity (the amassing of the sun), magnetism (the molten core of the Earth), the weak force (sun's fission) and the strong force (compounding the Earth's surface, with meteors).

The point of the story, is to show that, before anything could be done, God had arranged for life to begin on Earth, shifting His focus to what was at the heart of the cocoon (and leaving the other forces behind).

This was a partial creation, on which a greater Creation could be developed - which is a rule for our relationship with God: we should always be expecting God to do more, while He increases His focus, on what is less. At least, while He continues to strive with man (as it says in the Bible that He will not do (not always)), this is the pattern that we come to know God by (and it is not to be despised).

In other words, God creates momentously, rhythmically, supercedently and finally, in secret.

It does not need more thought than that: a lesser beginning is a greater strength in the end, than needs to be in word (being any "word").

This is how God humbles us - that we learn to give place to His Word, whatever the world "may say".

 

[mindlight]

Hi there,

So there are four parts to this beginning: gravity (the amassing of the sun), magnetism (the molten core of the Earth), the weak force (sun's fission) and the strong force (compounding the Earth's surface, with meteors).

The point of the story, is to show that, before anything could be done, God had arranged for life to begin on Earth, shifting His focus to what was at the heart of the cocoon (and leaving the other forces behind).

This was a partial creation, on which a greater Creation could be developed - which is a rule for our relationship with God: we should always be expecting God to do more, while He increases His focus, on what is less. At least, while He continues to strive with man (as it says in the Bible that He will not do (not always)), this is the pattern that we come to know God by (and it is not to be despised).

In other words, God creates momentously, rhythmically, supercedently and finally, in secret.

It does not need more thought than that: a lesser beginning is a greater strength in the end, than needs to be in word (being any "word").

This is how God humbles us - that we learn to give place to His Word, whatever the world "may say".

A lot of variables had to come together for Gods creation to be viable and it amazes me how the interactions between these variables are so perfectly balanced. Yes there is an excess to Gods creativity. He creates a whole universe of stars and planets and here we are in our own little cocoon of life on what currently appears to be his master work. Not sure what the intent of this OP was unless to simply marvel at God as Creator, if so then Amen to that.

 

[Gottservant]

A lot of variables had to come together for Gods creation to be viable and it amazes me how the interactions between these variables are so perfectly balanced. Yes there is an excess to Gods creativity. He creates a whole universe of stars and planets and here we are in our own little cocoon of life on what currently appears to be his master work. Not sure what the intent of this OP was unless to simply marvel at God as Creator, if so then Amen to that.

You got it in a word, brother: marvel!

All we can do is marvel!

The better for it, if we can share it, no?

 

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All we can do is marvel!

...and He did it in six days!!!

 

[Gottservant]

...and He did it in six days!!!

I don't know if anyone has told you this: but the Days mentioned were relative (to the speed of the spin (of the Earth)) - one revolution at Day one was far slower than the revolution at Day six.

 

[-57]

I don't know if anyone has told you this: but the Days mentioned were relative (to the speed of the spin (of the Earth)) - one revolution at Day one was far slower than the revolution at Day six.

Can you prove that?

 

[Brightmoon]

Well the speed of the spin of the earth has changed and paleontologists have documented this in fossil organisms like coral that build on a daily basis . Astronomers and geologists can point to Venus, Uranus and earth as well who got knocked into weird spins by asteroid strikes . That 23 degree tilt of earth was due to being smacked by an ancient bolide . Venus got smacked so hard it spins backwards and Uranus spins on its side. You also have major earthquakes that change the rate of the earth’s spin and either lengthen or shorten the day length like the Boxing Day earthquake and tsunami of about 20 years ago

 

[Brightmoon]

Gravitational attraction did form the sun and what pulls bolides to the earth . the strong force is what holds atomic nuclei together The magnetism at the core is due to the core mostly being a freely spinning iron ball . If you’re going to use a science fact as an analogy at least get the science information correct otherwise your analogy doesn’t work well

 

[-57]

Well the speed of the spin of the earth has changed and paleontologists have documented this in fossil organisms like coral that build on a daily basis . Astronomers and geologists can point to Venus, Uranus and earth as well who got knocked into weird spins by asteroid strikes . That 23 degree tilt of earth was due to being smacked by an ancient bolide . Venus got smacked so hard it spins backwards and Uranus spins on its side. You also have major earthquakes that change the rate of the earth’s spin and either lengthen or shorten the day length like the Boxing Day earthquake and tsunami of about 20 years ago

All of which is unproven speculation...and you presented it as fact.

 

[Brightmoon]

I presented this as fact because it is . The thing about gravity is that it’s predictable. You can run the calculations yourself . They have websites where laymen can do this . As I’ve stated the Boxing Day earthquake did change the length of the day . The moon has also changed the length of the earths day by pulling on the ocean water. It pulls the earth off balance a little and that changes the length of the day as well as slowed the moons spin

 

[Brightmoon]

Any time someone tells you a confirmed science fact you don’t like you call it speculation. Without giving any evidence that it is . Scientists have demonstrated that these are facts the ball is in your creationist court . Uh uh is not gonna cut it kid . Where’s YOUR evidence ?

 

[Gottservant]

Can you prove that?

The Holy Spirit can tell you.

Creating an agreement between Genesis and Revelation can tell you.

Following God can tell you.

 

[-57]

I presented this as fact because it is . The thing about gravity is that it’s predictable. You can run the calculations yourself . They have websites where laymen can do this . As I’ve stated the Boxing Day earthquake did change the length of the day . The moon has also changed the length of the earths day by pulling on the ocean water. It pulls the earth off balance a little and that changes the length of the day as well as slowed the moons spin

The moon is a nightmare for the old earths....Roche limit.

The moon is moving away from the earth. I believe it is like 50 cm a year...and if you wind the clock backwards there is no way the earth can be as old as you claim.

Yes, the length of the day may have been change...but not to the point your argument has any value.