Globalysm...

[johnd]

In times gone by, certain radio preachers (before streaming audio was available) used to carry on and on about the conspiracy of a small group of
banking families,
industrialists,
and well groomed / deeply implanted politicians in both American parties and in governments throughout the world to take over the world through what has come to be known as globalysm.

And I have to admit, putting a lot of what these preachers taught along side recent historic events** does seem to be congruous (and helps explain the events that were hard to make sense of otherwise).

** recent history being the last couple of centuries

This forum is based in Australia. There used to be an Aussie who made the Church circuit a few years back (who has gone on to his reward) named Smith (I think) who used to go about preaching this especially from the banking angle. I tried locating something about him online... not able to find much... of course I don't recall his name for certain.

Any thoughts?

 

[billwald]

It is not a "real" conspiracy. It is our owners doing what comes natural to them.

 

[gwynedd1]

It is not a "real" conspiracy. It is our owners doing what comes natural to them.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I think the Rockefeller Dynasty purchasing land for the UN goes beyond "natural".

You need to know how the control operates

http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h957.html

See all the following. These are typically organized as charitable trusts. This typically moves assests out of the name of the individual yet still retaining control of the assets. Cars , planes, buildings and employees are still available tax free. It also allows Academic manipulation where the curriculum feeds the monopolistic enterprise. IBM donations create IBM market share etc.

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• Rockefeller Institute for Medical Research. In 1901, Rockefeller created an organization to study the cause and prevention of disease. The Institute later became Rockefeller University.
• General Education Board. Created in 1902, the GEB supported a wide variety of educational improvements, concentrating attention on medical schools and the improvement of public education in the South. Before it was phased out in 1965, the GEB distributed more than $300 million.
• Rockefeller Sanitary Commission. Established in 1909 to address the problem of hookworm disease, the Commission mounted massive educational campaigns in the South. Later, efforts were launched overseas before the organization was closed in 1915.
• The Rockefeller Foundation. Given the broad charge "to promote the well-being of mankind throughout the world," the Foundation provided funding for public health, medical schools, famine prevention, the social sciences, the arts and many other endeavors. Begun in 1913, the Foundation continued and expanded the activities of the Sanitary Commission, and remains one of the world's leading philanthropic forces today.
• University of Chicago. Rockefeller instituted the challenge grant approach to establish what was initially a Baptist institution of higher learning. He offered to make a large donation if a similar amount could be raised from other sources within a certain time frame; he favored this approach because it demonstrated a base of support for a project and he would turn to this form of philanthropy many times over the years. Rockefeller was also a generous benefactor of Columbia, Harvard, Spelman, Bryn Mawr and Yale.

Even the less managable small money can do some of this.

http://www.nolo.com/article.cfm/Obj...899BC-C5FA-435D-BA9BCC083F55357E/309/126/ART/

Donor (age 80) has stock that is highly appreciated and pays no income. If sold it would incur significant capital gains tax. Donor also needs additional income to live on and could use an income tax deduction on this year’s tax return.
Donor transfers stock to a Charitable Remainder Annuity Trust, which lets him avoid capital gains tax, get an income tax deduction and receive a fixed return based on a percentage of the value of his gift. At his death, the remainder will go to charity.



http://www.gratz.edu/page3615.aspx



Now to the rich donor they have a huge tax break to purchase assets they essentially control. Does anyone think that Bill Gates will not have access to the assets of his charitable trust? [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]You did not think these people actually went from cut throat business people to saints did you? The key is they are not divesting but rather accumulating through subterfuge.

Why do they want world govenment? Its the ultimate single blind trust where they own/control the world by monopoly and proxy. Do people not reach for what is in their grasp? One born into enourmous wealth has only global power to reach for what they do not already have. They do not have the dreams of those that play the lottery. What a perfect illusion they have to appear to dissipate their power while increasing it though tax avoidance and subterfuge.
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[gwynedd1]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I think the Rockefeller Dynasty purchasing land for the UN goes beyond "natural".

You need to know how the control operates

http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h957.html

See all the following. These are typically organized as charitable trusts. This typically moves assests out of the name of the individual yet still retaining control of the assets. Cars , planes, buildings and employees are still available tax free. It also allows Academic manipulation where the curriculum feeds the monopolistic enterprise. IBM donations create IBM market share etc.

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• Rockefeller Institute for Medical Research. In 1901, Rockefeller created an organization to study the cause and prevention of disease. The Institute later became Rockefeller University.
• General Education Board. Created in 1902, the GEB supported a wide variety of educational improvements, concentrating attention on medical schools and the improvement of public education in the South. Before it was phased out in 1965, the GEB distributed more than $300 million.
• Rockefeller Sanitary Commission. Established in 1909 to address the problem of hookworm disease, the Commission mounted massive educational campaigns in the South. Later, efforts were launched overseas before the organization was closed in 1915.
• The Rockefeller Foundation. Given the broad charge "to promote the well-being of mankind throughout the world," the Foundation provided funding for public health, medical schools, famine prevention, the social sciences, the arts and many other endeavors. Begun in 1913, the Foundation continued and expanded the activities of the Sanitary Commission, and remains one of the world's leading philanthropic forces today.
• University of Chicago. Rockefeller instituted the challenge grant approach to establish what was initially a Baptist institution of higher learning. He offered to make a large donation if a similar amount could be raised from other sources within a certain time frame; he favored this approach because it demonstrated a base of support for a project and he would turn to this form of philanthropy many times over the years. Rockefeller was also a generous benefactor of Columbia, Harvard, Spelman, Bryn Mawr and Yale.

Even the less managable small money can do some of this.

http://www.nolo.com/article.cfm/Obj...899BC-C5FA-435D-BA9BCC083F55357E/309/126/ART/

Donor (age 80) has stock that is highly appreciated and pays no income. If sold it would incur significant capital gains tax. Donor also needs additional income to live on and could use an income tax deduction on this year’s tax return.
Donor transfers stock to a Charitable Remainder Annuity Trust, which lets him avoid capital gains tax, get an income tax deduction and receive a fixed return based on a percentage of the value of his gift. At his death, the remainder will go to charity.



http://www.gratz.edu/page3615.aspx



Now to the rich donor they have a huge tax break to purchase assets they essentially control. Does anyone think that Bill Gates will not have access to the assets of his charitable trust? [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]You did not think these people actually went from cut throat business people to saints did you? The key is they are not divesting but rather accumulating through subterfuge.

Why do they want world govenment? Its the ultimate single blind trust where they own/control the world by monopoly and proxy. Do people not reach for what is in their grasp? One born into enourmous wealth has only global power to reach for what they do not already have. They do not have the dreams of those that play the lottery. What a perfect illusion they have to appear to dissipate their power while increasing it though tax avoidance and subterfuge.
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Here is a continuation. The key is to understand that your name attached to your assests is a curse. You become a target of class warefare, you pay taxes, you lack subtlety and privacy, face trust busting etc. Most people assume that no conspiring has occured on a global scale because there is no such concentration of power. However the power is indeed far more concentrated than it appears.


http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/gary_allen_rocker/ch1-4.html#ch1

The Rockefellers invented a scheme, used by the super rich today, whereby the more money you appear to give away, the richer and more powerful you become. Through the help of captive politicians, guided by some bright boys in the family law offices, legislation was written and passed which would protect the Rockefellers and other elite super-rich from the repressive taxation they have foisted on everyone else.
The key to this system is giving up ownership but retaining control. For example, most people don't believe they really own something unless they retain title to it in their own name. The Rockefellers know this is a big mistake. Often it is better to have your assets owned by a trust or a foundation-which you control-than to have them in your own name.
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But according to many sources, the Rockefellers have as many as 200 trusts and foundations, and it is possible they have hundreds, even thousands more. Why bother with so many? For one very simple reason: So that assets can be moved, merged, and manipulated so smoothly and so quickly that the public-and just as important, the tax experts from the Treasury Department-have no way of knowing just how much money is where.

If you think the world's weathy are on the Forbes list of the rich , you have been fooled. Rockefeller and Rothschilds make billionaires look like a man with a tin cup and a monkey.

 

[Carey]

there are some liberals that are falling for the sales pitch inour Goverment.

As long As our President is professing Christ as savior and not afraid to fight
we will be fine in the USA until The EU beast of Revelation is finally Miltarily stronger than USA then we will finally lose and there will be one world Government

 

[gwynedd1]

there are some liberals that are falling for the sales pitch inour Goverment.

As long As our President is professing Christ as savior and not afraid to fight
we will be fine in the USA until The EU beast of Revelation is finally Miltarily stronger than USA then we will finally lose and there will be one world Government

Fight?

Rev 13

10: He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

Matt 5

9: Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.


Bush does not act on the words in the bible. Unfortunately the power of the beast is not only the EU. It is right here in the US. Fighting only furthers their plans.


You should look into the history of the bankers and money changers. It started in Babylon. Banking is a history of fraud and deceit(see fractional reserves).

http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistories.asp?historyid=ac19

The House of Rothschild and their allies amassed weath by funding boths sides of war. They financed Nazis, Bolsheviks, Jacobins, Imperial Japan etc. War brought vast wealth to Rothschild. Countries in war and debt were a benefit to them.

The 19th century was the last great conflict of nations free from the influence of finance on a large scale . Russia and The US were difficult to contain(Russia and the North were allies in the US civil war against French and British interference) . The Russian empire did not have a central bank and the US often resisted it. Then in 1913 the Federal Reserve act allowed the US to print money and fund war. That is why World War on that scale became possible. It is much easier to inflate currency than to raise taxes.

http://www.xat.org/xat/moneyhistory.html

Currently the Wallstreet and money powers corrupt nations . The World Bank and IMF are currently in the process of subjegating the world.

The harlot of Babylon comes from Babylon. Its the money changers. That is why is is considered a source of wealth in Rev 17 and 18. That this power came to be through genocides also explains the blood of the saints and profits. The bankers have been around for thousands of years but they never achieved the power they have today.

 

[dcyates]

It's impossible to intelligently converse with conspiracy theorists of any kind. Any ostensible evidence that appears to support their theory is of course latched onto with all the tenacity of a pitbull. And any evidence that contradicts their theory is dismissed as simply, "Ahh, but that's exactly what they want you to believe."

Even if there really exists an actual 'globalist' conspiracy of some kind, so what? Generally speaking, it seems to be working out for the benefit of humanity. Per capita GDP is going up virtually all over the world. Life expectancy is rising. Infant mortality is dropping. Living standards are improving. Life is generally better now than it has ever been in all of history. Do we really need to look for things to complain about?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

God is going to cause all prophecied events to occur, therefore.......

 

[gwynedd1]

It's impossible to intelligently converse with conspiracy theorists of any kind. Any ostensible evidence that appears to support their theory is of course latched onto with all the tenacity of a pitbull. And any evidence that contradicts their theory is dismissed as simply, "Ahh, but that's exactly what they want you to believe."

Even if there really exists an actual 'globalist' conspiracy of some kind, so what? Generally speaking, it seems to be working out for the benefit of humanity. Per capita GDP is going up virtually all over the world. Life expectancy is rising. Infant mortality is dropping. Living standards are improving. Life is generally better now than it has ever been in all of history. Do we really need to look for things to complain about?

One could say the same about those that respond as you do. I typically find that those that do not believe in these "wild" theories avoid the facts and make silly generalizations such as these.
The problem is that I believe these "globalists" are genocidal . These thing have been done countless time throughout the world and still there are those such as you. There are indeed holocaust myths and the most vile among them are its uniqueness.

Isaiah 22

[12] And in that day did the Lord GOD of hosts call to weeping, and to mourning, and to baldness, and to girding with sackcloth:
[13] And behold joy and gladness, slaying oxen, and killing sheep, eating flesh, and drinking wine: let us eat and drink; for to morrow we shall die.
[14] And it was revealed in mine ears by the LORD of hosts, Surely this iniquity shall not be purged from you till ye die, saith the Lord GOD of hosts.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0813332893?v=glance

Be my guest and live in blissful ignorance but when do you suppose Revelation will be fulfilled? Never? I do not worry, I watch and you would do will to prove and disprove rather than use fatalistic generalizations. The Pharisees conspired against Christ and so is that not also a theory?
Please do some real analysis and profit from it rather than consume what is in front of you and wipe your mouth.

 

[gwynedd1]

God is going to cause all prophecied events to occur, therefore.......

.....Why bother to even send the prophets? Why bother to post, speak, eat, sleep, wine, dine....let us sit and wait for God the puppet master....

Forshame brother......