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You entered into a debate and followed no common courtesy. Mind you, this is all in the realm of debate. In normal day-to-day operations, I do not have this mindset. Obviously a toddler will not have the medical expertise. But if I go into a debate with him, I will not shove his age or lack of experience in his face. Truth is blind. What's true is true, regardless of social status or education. If something is true, let that man give his evidence. This is the way any debate or truth discussion works. It does not work by belittlement or condescension. I am not saying I am better than you, but I am calling you out on a logical fallacy. No different than me calling anyone out on any other logical fallacy. Like I said, I take logical discussions and debates seriously. I hate illogical reasoning(logical fallacies). If I offend you, I apologize, it was not my intent. I only intend to make this a better place for the sharing of information and reasonings.

I must've completely forgotten about that hours of formal debate I had with..NO.
It's pretty obvious at the kid didn't want a "formal, logical debate" (you'll have to just imagine the sarcastic face I'm making) - he said something stupid and I pointed it out in a manner befitting to stupid comments. "If I offend you, I apologize, it was not my intent. I only intend to make this a better place for the sharing of information and reasonings." (can you tell If I am being pretentious?)
EDIT: why would you even consider the idea of debating a toddler.
 
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I don't know if you are being pretentious. I am not trying to be pretentious. I hate condescension. This is how I talk normally. Sorry if it doesn't fit your view of Americans. (nude pig wrestling?) And I understand that he isn't giving any evidence whatsoever, but I just hold to the idea that any comment in the very beginning should be taken with a grain of salt. I know not everyone holds that idea(nor are they required to), it just seemed your comment was a bit... over the top. Anywho, let us bury the hatchet?
 
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I don't know if you are being pretentious. I am not trying to be pretentious. I hate condescension. This is how I talk normally. Sorry if it doesn't fit your view of Americans. (nude pig wrestling?) And I understand that he isn't giving any evidence whatsoever, but I just hold to the idea that any comment in the very beginning should be taken with a grain of salt. I know not everyone holds that idea(nor are they required to), it just seemed your comment was a bit... over the top. Anywho, let us bury the hatchet?

Ok.
 
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PaxThroughX

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I'm a belligerent [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] who has nothing better to do than make fun of people who may not necessarily be dumb, but act as if they are.
Be sure to take everything a COMPLETE stranger says on THE INTERNET completely seriously - because as I said, the internet is serious business.
Also, I assume that you are asking for my age because we have become great friends in the past few days and want to arrange a sort of a birthday party. I turn 6 next month, and would like a grand party. Perhaps wrestling pigs while naked and covered in mud. Apparently that's called a "picnic" in America.
BYO food.

If the internet was "serious business," then you agree that youtube is always serious? (Comments,videos etc.)

And I didnt get your joke (if was anways) ? Toddlers wrestling in the mud?
 
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If the internet was "serious business," then you agree that youtube is always serious? (Comments,videos etc.)

And I didnt get your joke (if was anways) ? Toddlers wrestling in the mud?

I read somewhere that the inability to either identify or distinguish sarcasm is an early symptom of autism.
 
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PaxThroughX

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I read somewhere that the inability to either identify or distinguish sarcasm is an early symptom of autism.

I was aware of your sarcasm. I didnt get the joke though? Well then I guess I am smarter than you so :D
 
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I was aware of your sarcasm. I didnt get the joke though? Well then I guess I am smarter than you so :D

I don't think you were aware, but I'll trust you- you're so much smarter than me.
Anyway, best of luck with your music career and if you could leave another passive aggressive indignant comment, that would be great.
I'll be the first one to buy your CD when your career takes off- at this rate with the current market climate, you could easily average $50 dollars a week from old Christian ladies.
 
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Really? Perhaps we can compare notes.
Anyway, you must be busy saving internet damsels in distress, but thanks for taking the time to white knight on this thread.

Regardless, both you and PaxThroughX have gone completely off topic into a smaller form of a flame war. Perhaps I should have phrased it: 'no one cares about off topic squabbling'.
 
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I don't think you were aware, but I'll trust you- you're so much smarter than me.
Anyway, best of luck with your music career and if you could leave another passive aggressive indignant comment, that would be great.
I'll be the first one to buy your CD when your career takes off- at this rate with the current market climate, you could easily average $50 dollars a week from old Christian ladies.

I dont see Christian ladies buying heavy deathcore progressive metal stuff, but ok. And ya sure anytime
 
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PaxThroughX

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Regardless, both you and PaxThroughX have gone completely off topic into a smaller form of a flame war. Perhaps I should have phrased it: 'no one cares about off topic squabbling'.

I dont see how its a flame war? You should see the look on my face when I see the comments.
 
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I'm going to try to bring this thread back on it's rails.

It shouldn't matter to you if she does or does not have faith in Jesus Christ, if she chooses a lifestyle that is fit for her-and as long as it doesn't severely hurt you in any way then you should work fine. Sure, you can express your reservations-but you shouldn't change who she is.
 
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i think we need christian advices, since agnostics dont count =P and so doe athiests

You need to learn to respect other people's views just as I respect yours. My views are just as valid as yours, and if you cannot get past that, I would suggest you gain an open mind about the world and society. I'm not going to get into a debate with you as it's futile as well as detrimental towards this thread. Atheists and Agnostics like myself have just as valid and equal views and advice just as members of faith do. You're still a kid, so I don't expect you to understand entirely the gravity of what you had just said.

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This isn't an entirely Christian thing here- that is only half of it. Yes, he has a faith and his significant other does not - but when OP had said they don't do the things that he views are wrong (Fornicate, drink) and i'm sure his girlfriend understands as well - she RESPECTS his views. OP's underlying thing is that she doesn't believe in a god wheras he does. OP feels that because she has no faith that she is affiliated with their relationship will go down the drain. The advice i'm giving to him is that he shouldn't let faith decide entirely. If he respects her views and she respects his, then that is OK. Unless his parents become helicopters and watch him like a hawk with all these rules on girls like "don't date Atheists" then he should understand that faith isn't the WHOLE puzzle. It's a multitude of things that being people together in a relationship:

Going out and doing activities
Seeing a movie
Eating dinner at each others' houses

If OP feels strongly about his faith and would rather date someone OF faith, then more power to him! But keep in mind OP CHOSE to go out with her while knowingly understanding she was an Atheist. He looked past something that WAS viewed as an issue to him and saw the little things in her that made him smile.
 
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Excuse me, Mr. BazAussieKid1173... *ahem* I just wanted to point out that a 7 year old is not a toddler. It bothered me that you chose that age, yet insisted on continually using the term 'toddler'. If you're going to pride yourself on being technical, then I figured I should help you out.

To OP: Although I agree that your girlfriend is free to make her own lifestyle choice, think about what's most important to you. Ask yourself if she will be helpful in your growth with God. Those things don't seem like they would get in the way but they do. I know from personal experiences. There is a reason God calls for us to be evenly yoked. Assuming you can't have love without your current girlfriend is just fear and lack of faith in God. If you feel your relationship with God is stronger than ever, then by all means try. But all I can say is pay attention to the stuff you claim to be justified and are really excuses. Again, I am not telling you what to do. I'm just telling you to think. And of course, talk to God.
 
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To the op: I'm currently in a relationship with an aetheist, and even though I've just started out my walk with God, his religious beliefs do not bother me. I see it as a chance to potentially help him grow in belief, but even if he refuses to (which I'm sure he will :p) I'll still love him. I am in no position to be forcing my beliefs upon anyone, especially someone I've been blessed to have. Even if he doesn't know it yet, God still loves him and so do I. Our differences cannot change the way I feel about him.
I know this probably doesn't help, but maybe it might give you a different point of view :)

God bless
~C
 
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To the op: I'm currently in a relationship with an aetheist, and even though I've just started out my walk with God, his religious beliefs do not bother me. I see it as a chance to potentially help him grow in belief, but even if he refuses to (which I'm sure he will :p) I'll still love him. I am in no position to be forcing my beliefs upon anyone, especially someone I've been blessed to have. Even if he doesn't know it yet, God still loves him and so do I. Our differences cannot change the way I feel about him.
I know this probably doesn't help, but maybe it might give you a different point of view :)

God bless
~C

Heres something that needs to be made clear. You can't force a belief on someone. Even if you threaten to kill them, they make the choice to accept it or not. If someone says your "forcing your beliefs," on them, then they feel conviction.
 
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