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Ghost possessions and the Word of God

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What does the bible say about ghosts? as i understand it once you die you get judged and either go to heaven or hell..so where do these 'ghosts' come from that people claim to have encounters with? John edwards makes money claiming to SEE ghosts ---what bible verses can i rely on to guide people away from him and his products..?

What about spiritual possessions? i thought after jesus died on the cross demons and spirits couldnt take you unless you invited them? my mother in law is faithful to this stuff and wants me to keep an open mind..i think its stupid and dont add to it...i want to take away from it...hel p me out!!
 

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we saw gothika and in it there was a ghost seriously beating down EVERYONE. my mother in law thinks thats real..i say other wise..if its true that can happen then why dont demons and evil spirits just go around slitting everyones wrist and throats with out us really knowing whats going on? if it were that easy wouldnt we all be dead now since satan is here to kill steal and destroy?
 
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Here are answers to your questions in the order you wrote them:Actually the bible doesn't mention ghosts.It uses the word demon to refer to them.If you receive and hold on to your salvation,you won't have to worry about being judged.The judgement is reserved for non-believers and fake Christians,many of whom you'll meet on this web site.Demons are Satan's angels who joined him when he lost his salvation.(Satan used to be one of God's most trusted angels) The bible has numerous references to demons,Jesus frequently caused them to leave people through prayer.The theory you have about demon possession is not in the bible,and it's just not correct.In fact,now that our sick war-happy society is coming to an end,the work and power of demons is increasing.After the rapture (1Thessalonians 4:14-17 has a good description of the rapture) the number of demons sent to earth,will greatly increase.You are completely correct in your opinion that we should avoid ghosts or those who claim they can talk with the dead.Those people are either talking to demons or their stage manager.
 
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thank you very much! i needed the scriptures about the rapture..the way i understood things is that all things that arnt with god are against god. and anything that is outside of god is robbing him of his glory - so demons will pretend to speak with people and do these things to take attention from our father and place them onto ouijy boards spiritualists and tarot cards..im glad you could help!
 
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ghosts are mentioned in the bible. When Jesus was walking on water, the apostles all said "it's a ghost" not a demon. Also, Luke 24: 36-43 (NIV)
While they were still talking about this, Jesus himself stood among them and said to them, "Peace be with you."

They were startled and frightened, thinking they saw a ghost.

He said to them, "Why are you troubled, and why do doubts rise in your minds? Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have."

When he had said this, he showed them his hands and feet. And while they still did not believe it because of joy and amazement, he asked them, "Do you have anything here to eat?" They gave him a piece of broiled fish, and he took it and ate it in their presence. He never corrected them saying ghosts are just a myth

on beliefnet.com in the Christianity section the answer was this:
If by ghosts one means spirits of the dead, they do exist, as the story about Saul visiting the medium of Endor shows.
 
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IMO, there is a place were the dead go. In the old testament it is Sheol i believe. In the New testament Paul describes the dead as "asleep". And we all know that there will be a ressurection. But spirits don't rise outside the will of God. God allowed the Real samuel to appear when saul went to contact him. Demons have lived on this earth longer than us. They know our every move, and only those who are outside of the protection of God can be decieved by their illusions. Just like angels, each demon has a specific function. Some are manifestations, others are influences. Either way, if the purpose of what you see has anything to do with everything else besides God, then you have the authority of God, through prayer, God will be present and will rebuke whatever is not of God. This is what is happening when we speak in the name of the Lord Jesus. It's not something you just say, you have to be in communion with God.

as for demon possession, i am not to experienced on the topic. Just one incident i can recall. None the less, this is still a type of demon. Just like our joy comes from somewhere, things like Depression and Oppression has a source also, being that these things don't come from God, He is not the source.

We have to understand however, demon possession is not limited to people who are not of God. simply because your flesh is a conductor of darkness. They don't need permission from you to mess with something this belongs to the father of this world, and this flesh.

Yet Christians, who are saved and sanctified by the blood of Jesus, can not be so easily dominated because those who live in the spirit belong to God. The reason we are tempted is because of this flesh, but giving in to temptation is the way we give permission to demons to start over shadowing us again. The way we overcome the temptation is by doing that which is of God. This is why i do not see how any christian can sit back relax and no do anything. Slacking off is then one way we give in to the lies of the principalities of darkness.

So if you are alive in faith and are not slacking off, God has you protected. But if you are spiritually alseep dead or still, you know the rest. God is not idle like an idol. He is Living moving, and we, followers of Christ, must also be moving and working.

This does not limit the power of God at all. If you read the story of Job you'll understand that demons do not have the power to kill without the permission of God Himself. they can do anything else to us, and they can only control us (as in the case of the over exaggerated movies, and other real life incidents) when WE give them permission to do so. Demons find more pleasure in the hearts who have already been cleaned, in other words, christians, but We have a more Powerful God who is protecting us 24/7 12 months every year. When eve listened to the serpant, that was giving permission. Then Jesus came and flipped the script. Jesus took whatever power satan had when he died on that cross.

Well this is what i know off the bat.
 
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I do not have my Bible with me, but there is a verse that states the dead will not be raised until Christ comes back. When Jesus was on the cross, he told the theif, "Today you shall be with me in paradise." We know this is not heaven, because he did not ascend to heaven until 40 days after his resurrection.

Yours in Christ,
Jen
 
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aanjt said:
I do not have my Bible with me, but there is a verse that states the dead will not be raised until Christ comes back. When Jesus was on the cross, he told the theif, "Today you shall be with me in paradise." We know this is not heaven, because he did not ascend to heaven until 40 days after his resurrection.

Yours in Christ,
Jen

good point Jen!
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fields316_2000 said:
What does the bible say about ghosts? as i understand it once you die you get judged and either go to heaven or hell..so where do these 'ghosts' come from that people claim to have encounters with? John edwards makes money claiming to SEE ghosts ---what bible verses can i rely on to guide people away from him and his products..?

What about spiritual possessions? i thought after jesus died on the cross demons and spirits couldnt take you unless you invited them? my mother in law is faithful to this stuff and wants me to keep an open mind..i think its stupid and dont add to it...i want to take away from it...hel p me out!!
Lester Summeral has a good book on Demonology ...
not ghosts , " familiar spirit's " .... like the spirit of divination that the slave girl had that Paul cast out .... as with the 7 sons of sceva ...
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04713a.htm
 
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actually, i believe john edward is a professional necromancer or somehow he is psychic enough to talk with spirits on another plane....whatever name u wish to classify that spirit as. I believe in ghosts, demons, angels, fairies, the "wee" people, elementals. Basically all that ****. This didnt help much but oh well.
 
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btw, John Edwards show, Crossing Over, has been cancelled. Heard it on Fox News yesterday. Yippee! I can't believe that an article I read said that he was a Catholic and recited Hail Mary's before his shows. He has been seriously deceived! :mad:
 
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To be absent with the body is to be present with the Lord. There no ghosts...sorry to burst anyone's bubble. There plenty of evil spirits mascarading as the dead folk though. I've had experience with them and know of a couple of people whom I've had good reason to believe they have as well. Its no big deal as long as you have faith in Christ. :)
 
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The spiritual world is eternal and the physical one we live in is temporary. Demonic activity should be no surprise. It is God's Spirit that suppresses and hinders this demonic activity, and we are warned to not call on these demons for any information, but to go to God with prayer and supplication to make our requests known. The story about Saul and the witch of Endor should be taken as a warning to not rely on minions of the father of lies, the devil, for anything.

Philippians 4:6 In nothing be anxious; but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.
 
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Well I don't neccessarily think that ghosts are demons, but I think they may be two different things. Ghosts are simply lost souls, which, for some reason, can't rest after death. Then you have your bad ghosts aka demons which go and do the bidding of Satan. I do believe in ghosts because I've seen one personally in my own bedroom: it woke me up by pulling on my arm and then simply let my room. *shivers* But my mother has experienced demons: she use to live in Brasil as a child and someone put a curse on her, so three demons came one night and tried to kill her. And no I'm extremely serious about this. Satan is reigning on this earth now, although he won't be for much longer *thank God!* so demons do have strong powers...but yea I don't think ghosts are neccessarily evil personified. Just lost
 
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