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"get millions of people involved manufacturing and installing solar panels" say mark zuckerberg
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<blockquote data-quote="eclipsenow" data-source="post: 71686507" data-attributes="member: 274355"><p>Solar power turns off at night time, and sadly solar PV produces produce THREE HUNDRED TIMES MORE waste than nuclear power, and it's toxic, life destroying stuff.</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><p style="margin-left: 20px">>If solar and nuclear produce the same amount of electricity over the next 25 years that nuclear produced in 2016, and the wastes are stacked on football fields, the nuclear waste would reach the height of the Leaning Tower of Pisa (52 meters), while the solar waste would reach the height of two Mt. Everests (16 km). </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">>In countries like China, India, and Ghana, communities living near e-waste dumps often burn the waste in order to salvage the valuable copper wires for resale. Since this process requires burning off the plastic, the resulting smoke contains toxic fumes that are carcinogenic and teratogenic (birth defect-causing) when inhaled. </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><a href="http://www.environmentalprogress.org/big-news/2017/6/21/are-we-headed-for-a-solar-waste-crisis" target="_blank">Are we headed for a solar waste crisis?</a></p> </p><p>As I always say, climate change is <strong><em>too important</em></strong> to let magical, wishful thinking make us choose wind and solar. Dr James Hansen says renewables face profound challenges from intermittency, so much so that believing in renewables is like believing in the Tooth Fairy. <a href="https://goo.gl/QWPIy5" target="_blank">Hansen warns not to drink sustainable energy Kool-Aid</a> He recommends that the world build 115 reactors per year. <a href="https://goo.gl/c6FAlB" target="_blank">Nuclear power paves the only viable path forward on climate change</a> Is that impossible? Not at all! In fact, on a GDP to reactor ratio, the French already beat that build out rate. They converted 75% of their grid to nuclear in just 15 years, building 56 reactors over 15 years! <a href="https://goo.gl/qrlmp7" target="_blank">Nuclear power in France - Wikipedia</a> France now has some of the cleanest electricity in Europe, and is the world's largest exporter of electricity. <a href="https://goo.gl/s10w0g" target="_blank">List of countries by electricity exports - Wikipedia</a> Nuclear is not only the cheapest and safest way to replace fossil fuels, it is the fastest. Dr Hansen recommends this free book about breeder reactors that can eat nuclear waste. <a href="https://goo.gl/2YS1On" target="_blank">https://goo.gl/2YS1On</a> Then electric vehicles and synthetic diesel from seawater can replace oil. <a href="https://goo.gl/DMj93r" target="_blank">Synthetic diesel</a> We can do this, we just need the political willpower.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="eclipsenow, post: 71686507, member: 274355"] Solar power turns off at night time, and sadly solar PV produces produce THREE HUNDRED TIMES MORE waste than nuclear power, and it's toxic, life destroying stuff. [INDENT][INDENT]>If solar and nuclear produce the same amount of electricity over the next 25 years that nuclear produced in 2016, and the wastes are stacked on football fields, the nuclear waste would reach the height of the Leaning Tower of Pisa (52 meters), while the solar waste would reach the height of two Mt. Everests (16 km). >In countries like China, India, and Ghana, communities living near e-waste dumps often burn the waste in order to salvage the valuable copper wires for resale. Since this process requires burning off the plastic, the resulting smoke contains toxic fumes that are carcinogenic and teratogenic (birth defect-causing) when inhaled. [URL="http://www.environmentalprogress.org/big-news/2017/6/21/are-we-headed-for-a-solar-waste-crisis"]Are we headed for a solar waste crisis?[/URL][/INDENT][/INDENT] As I always say, climate change is [B][I]too important[/I][/B] to let magical, wishful thinking make us choose wind and solar. Dr James Hansen says renewables face profound challenges from intermittency, so much so that believing in renewables is like believing in the Tooth Fairy. [URL="https://goo.gl/QWPIy5"]Hansen warns not to drink sustainable energy Kool-Aid[/URL] He recommends that the world build 115 reactors per year. [URL="https://goo.gl/c6FAlB"]Nuclear power paves the only viable path forward on climate change[/URL] Is that impossible? Not at all! In fact, on a GDP to reactor ratio, the French already beat that build out rate. They converted 75% of their grid to nuclear in just 15 years, building 56 reactors over 15 years! [URL="https://goo.gl/qrlmp7"]Nuclear power in France - Wikipedia[/URL] France now has some of the cleanest electricity in Europe, and is the world's largest exporter of electricity. [URL="https://goo.gl/s10w0g"]List of countries by electricity exports - Wikipedia[/URL] Nuclear is not only the cheapest and safest way to replace fossil fuels, it is the fastest. Dr Hansen recommends this free book about breeder reactors that can eat nuclear waste. [URL]https://goo.gl/2YS1On[/URL] Then electric vehicles and synthetic diesel from seawater can replace oil. [URL="https://goo.gl/DMj93r"]Synthetic diesel[/URL] We can do this, we just need the political willpower. [/QUOTE]
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