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Genesis was right?!

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Sure. And add that reasoning is why the world is falling apart.

I actually agree with you on that, a bunch of non-questioning sheep are a lot easier to control than people that think for themselves and use reasoning in their thought process.
 
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I actually agree with you on that, a bunch of non-questioning sheep are a lot easier to control than people that think for themselves and use reasoning in their thought process.
Yes indeed and to add; God gave man the ability to reason because it is an evil ability. People must stop reasoning, having sex, singing, caring for the environment, caring for their fellow human beings, etc ad infinitum. God hates people who do the above mentioned things!:p:cool:
 
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It's funny how some reason themselves into atheism, isn't it?
Yes; It is through pure reason that one becomes an atheist although this is not 100%.

I must however stress the fact that should science ever bring forth irrefutable evidence of the supernatural then reason dictates that atheists in their majority will accept the existence of the supernatural. Now whether they choose to worship it or not is another matter altogether.

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Yes; It is through pure reason that one becomes an atheist although this is not 100%.

I must however stress the fact that should science ever bring forth irrefutable evidence of the supernatural then reason dictates that atheists in their majority will accept the existence of the supernatural. Now whether they choose to worship it or not is another matter altogether.

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It looks like on the third day everyone will believe.

Exodus 19:16 And it came to pass on the third day in the morning, that there were thunders and lightnings, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud; so that all the people that [was] in the camp trembled.

That did amaze me that there was thunder and lightening and an earthquake. All the people of Israel believed, yet they did not all live for God.
 
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It looks like on the third say everyone will believe.

Exodus 19:16 And it came to pass on the third day in the morning, that there were thunders and lightnings, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud; so that all the people that [was] in the camp trembled.

That did amaze me that there was thunder and lightening and an earthquake. All the people of Israel believed, yet they did not all live for God.
I think it is Dr. Scofield that pointed out that the Israelites should never have said...

Exodus 19:8 And all the people answered together, and said, All that the LORD hath spoken we will do. And Moses returned the words of the people unto the LORD.

... because after that, the dispensation of Promise came to a close, and the dispensation of Law started.

They probably thought God was just going to lay a few do's & don'ts on them, like He did Adam & Eve; but instead, they not only got the Ten Commandments, but they got another ... I believe it is ... 609 commandments along with them.

The Ten Commandments are impossible to keep, since we have a sin nature.

Scofield says that, instead of saying what they said, they should have fallen on their faces and admitted they needed grace, not law.
 
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I do it all the time. What do you want to know?

Honestly, you've never said anything that has made me want to know more. So for now, I'll settle with you promising that you won't just post one liners, but post well-thought-out responses with evidence provided to show that your claims are supported by something more than your say-so.

How's that?
 
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It's funny how some reason themselves into atheism, isn't it?

Yeah, those people who want evidence and support for claims before they'll believe them! What ever happened to good old blind faith, just accepting whatever you were told as truth? Thems were the good ol' days!
 
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Honestly, you've never said anything that has made me want to know more. So for now, I'll settle with you promising that you won't just post one liners, but post well-thought-out responses with evidence provided to show that your claims are supported by something more than your say-so.

How's that?
How about this? You say what you want to say and I'll do the same? If you can disprove my comments then have at it.
 
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How about this? You say what you want to say and I'll do the same? If you can disprove my comments then have at it.
You make the claim then the onus is on you to prove it! That is how it works! For example:

I believe the moon is inhabited by cows that produce cheese and the moon is made of this cheese!

See what I mean?:wave:
 
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How about this? You say what you want to say and I'll do the same? If you can disprove my comments then have at it.

In other words no.

I'd be more than happy to disprove what you say, but the problem is that what you say is so vague and nebulous it doesn't really say anything at all.
 
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I think it is Dr. Scofield that pointed out that the Israelites should never have said...

Exodus 19:8 And all the people answered together, and said, All that the LORD hath spoken we will do. And Moses returned the words of the people unto the LORD.

... because after that, the dispensation of Promise came to a close, and the dispensation of Law started.

The Ten Commandments are impossible to keep, since we have a sin nature.

Scofield says that, instead of saying what they said, they should have fallen on their faces and admitted they needed grace, not law.
Sounds like when I got married. I said there is no way I can do all of that the vows require. The pastor said we are just suppose to do our best. Maybe he does not have a wife that demands the perfection of the Law.

Actually John Wesley was the one that started the Holiness movement. Interesting that the problem he ran into was that people just got comfortable and it was difficult to get them out of their comfort zone.
 
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