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Genesis Six Again!?

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http://www.raidersnewsupdate.com/Aliens2.htm

"When men began to increase on earth and daughters were born to them, the divine beings saw how beautiful the daughters of men were and they took wives from among those that pleased them....It was then, and later too, that the Nephilim appeared on earth - when the divine beings cohabited with the daughters of men, who bore them offspring. They were the heroes of old, the men of renown." (Genesis, Chapter 6, from the Jewish translation of the Torah.)

Cheshire Online pointed out this week that tales of alien contact are nothing new, from HG Wells' The War Of The Worlds to modern stories from The X-Files, people love a good UFO yarn.

But many believe there is more to Alien activity than Hollywood has created.

"Indeed," Chris brown, writing for the Daily Post says, "one successful Chester businesswoman claims that not only was she repeatedly visited by a space creature but she became the mother of a half-alien-halfearthling child..."

"Originally the visits, which began when she was just 12, were relaxed and even "loving", but by the time they ended she says she was terrified..."

The fateful night came when, taking her to their spaceship, the aliens "used mind control to engineer a close encounter of a different kind involving the hapless Ms Brown..."

"Her horror increased after the discovery a month later that she was pregnant."

The Post feature discusses the birth of the infant entity, gray skinned and frail, which was immediately scooped up and taken on board the extraterrestrial ship.

Nonsense you say? Writing for the conservative news service Raiders News Update, best selling author and researcher Thomas Horn reminds us that "A growing number of Bible scholars believe something unusual is transpiring during so-called alien abduction. They point to Genesis 6 where extraterrestrial visitations and genetic manipulation by supernatural beings may have occurred."

One group, known as "the ancient astronaut school," hold that "divine beings" (B'nai Elohim in Hebrew) were super-intelligent geneticists from outer space that created Homo sapiens by tinkering with primate DNA.

Another more conservative club points to a darker interpretation...Satan (as opposed to aliens) was trying to produce a race of mutant warriors by breeding fallen angels with women."

As Ms Brown's story illustrates, history may be repeating itself.

The Raelian Cult, the same group that claims to have created the world's first clone, say the ancient Elohim were not only real, but that they set up laboratories in and around present-day Israel and created plants, animals, humans and Nephilim through advanced genetic manipulation. Rael says they will return soon to nudge us forward in our evolution. From what we can make of the cult's religion, this means a revival of the 'ancient' art of genetic engineering and, even more frightening, reinventing the knowledge of Nephilim-making.

In Rael's eyes, this is a good thing. Humans will become B'nai Elohim themselves, creating life on other planets and becoming 'gods' to our creations.

Not so fast, the second school of thought says. The aliens did come, and they conducted genetic manipulation that led to the Nephilim. But the visitors weren't galactic good neighbors. They were angels...of the fallen kind...on a quest to steal your soul.

The theory goes something like this: Very soon after the Fall of man, the protoevangelium (the promise that the seed of the woman would bring forth a child [Jesus] capable of destroying the serpent's [Satan's] power) was given in Genesis 3:15. In response to this promise, supernatural beings (fallen angels) appeared from the heavens and performed reproductive experiments on human women. Why? To pollute their offspring. By corrupting Hebrew DNA, they would cut off the birth line of the Messiah.

Or maybe more than that.

Stephen Quayle, in his excellent and highly recommended book, Aliens & Fallen Angels - The Sexual Corruption of the Human Race, suggests that Satan was interbreeding Nephilim to corrupt every living thing God had made - both human and animal.

What's more, Satan nearly succeeded in wiping out redemption. By the time Noah and his kids came along, they were the only humans left with DNA not corrupted by intermarriage with Nephilim and their offspring. This is what was meant by Noah being 'perfect' in his generation (a word commonly used in the Bible to refer to 'unblemished' sacrificial animals). His perfection was physical and DNA related, not moral.

This brings a whole new light to the Great Flood. In order to preserve the human race - and the lineage of the Messiah - God had to destroy all but Noah and his clean DNA.

But don't celebrate yet. The second school of thought says Satan and his alien-force are not done. They're planning a second wave. A coming invasion. One that's accompanied by "...fearful sights and great signs [read UFOs]...from heaven" (Lk 21:11).

"And then shall that wicked one be revealed....whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders [UFOs again]....And for this cause God shall send mankind strong delusion, that they should believe a lie [the kind as told by Rael]: That they all might be **** ed who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness" (2 Thessalonians 2:8-12).
 

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The cited passage has nothing to do with aliens marrying earthlings. If you read it in context--with the parallel genealogies of the wicked line of Cain and the righteous line of Seth--it is rather easy to figure out that the "divine beings" (a dubious translation of what is elsewhere rendered "sons of God") are the righteous descendents of Seth and the "daughters of men" are the wicked descendants of Cain. The result of these intermarriages can only be what follows in the subsequent chapters: an increase of evil throughout the earth which becomes so intense that God has to wipe out the entire human race, except for Noah and his family, and start over after the flood.
 
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Patmosman_sga said:
The cited passage has nothing to do with aliens marrying earthlings. If you read it in context--with the parallel genealogies of the wicked line of Cain and the righteous line of Seth--it is rather easy to figure out that the "divine beings" (a dubious translation of what is elsewhere rendered "sons of God") are the righteous descendents of Seth and the "daughters of men" are the wicked descendants of Cain. The result of these intermarriages can only be what follows in the subsequent chapters: an increase of evil throughout the earth which becomes so intense that God has to wipe out the entire human race, except for Noah and his family, and start over after the flood.

As the record clearly indicates, the offspring of the unions between the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men" were progeny of the most grotesque sort, being "giants in the earth," the same being "mighty men which were of old, men of renown," monsters not only in size but also monsters in wickedness, and they always, without exception, were disposed to thwart the purposes of God (Genesis 6: 1, 2, 4). In the minds of many readers, the first reaction to this passage is such that, in spite of its obvious and clear intent, its incredulity begs for an alternate interpretation. The standard interpretation of the liberals is to think of the fairy tales of antiquity, the legends of ogres and dragons, and the myths of the gods consorting with men - and then to dismiss the entire story as legend and superstition, but a careful examination of the passage will elicit a far deeper meaning.

Often the biases and presuppositions we bring into a matter prevent our understanding and acceptance of its face value and patient meaning. Modern Christians have often attempted to make this passage in Genesis more palatable intellectually by explaining the "sons of God" as Sethites and the "daughters of men" as Cainites, with their union representing the breaking down of the wall of separation between believers and unbelievers. Another interpretation which avoids the supernaturalistic implications is that the phrase "sons of God" referred to kings and nobles, in which case the commingling so described is merely an account of royalty marrying commoners.

The first matter of understanding regarding this amazing portion of Scripture beyond its plain contextual intent turns quite obviously to the Hebrew meaning of the phrase "sons of God" (bene elohim). In the New Testament, of course, this term is used with reference to all who have been born again through personal faith in Jesus Christ (John 1:12; Romans 8:14; etc.), and the concept of a spiritual relationship of believers to God as analogous to that of children to a father is also found in the Old Testament (Psalm 73:15; Hosea 1:10; Deuteronomy 32:5; Exodus 4:22; Isaiah 43:6). However, none of these examples use the same phrase as Genesis 6:2, 4; furthermore, in each case the meaning is not really parallel to the meaning given in Genesis. Neither the descendants of Seth nor true believers of any sort have been previously referred to in Genesis as sons of God in any kind of spiritual sense and, except for Adam himself, they could not have been sons of God in a physical sense. In context, such a meaning would be strained, to say the least, in the absence of any kind of explanation. When we are told that "men" began to multiply on the face of the earth, and that the sons of God saw the daughters of "men," in each case the human race is clearly signified, in other words the descendants of Cain and Seth alike. Hence the "sons of God" are plainly distinguished from the generations of Adam. The only obvious and natural meaning without such clarification is that these beings were sons of God, rather than of men, because they have been created, not born. Such a description, of course, would apply only to Adam (Luke 3:38) and to the angels, whom god had directly created (Psalm 148:2, 5: Psalm 104:4; Colossians 1:16).

The actual expression "sons of God," bene elohim, occurs explicitly three other times, all in the very ancient book of Job (1:6; 2:1; 38:7), and in each case the term refers indisputably to angelic beings. These are the beings whom, apparently, were created sometime during the first half of the creation week, probably on the first day (Genesis 2:1; Job 38:4-7; Luke 2:13). Twice in the beginning of the book of Job we read of the sons of God presenting themselves before Him at stated times, and Satan also comes with them as being himself a son of God, though a disobedient, fallen, and rebellious one. In Job 38:7 the morning stars are represented as singing together, and the sons of God as shouting for joy, over the creation of our earth. There are, as well, implicit references to these sons of God in a number of other passages. There is no doubt that, in these passages, the meaning also applies exclusively to the angels. A very similar form bar elohim is used in Daniel 3:25, and refers either to an angel or to a theophany. The term "sons of the mighty" (bene elim) is used in Psalm 29:1 and also Psalm 89:6, and again refers to angels. The sons of Elohim the mighty Creator are confined to those creatures made directly by the Divine hand, and not born of other beings of their own order. Hence, in Luke's genealogy of our Lord, Adam is called a son of God (Luke 3:38), and, so also Christ is said to give to them that receive Him power to become the sons of God (John 1:12). For these are born again of the Spirit of God as to their inner man even in the present life. This is only possible with man since he is delivered from the penalty of death and brought into newness of life through a substitutionary atonement, unlike the angels which, on the other hand, have been fixed in their position as angels of grace, or damnation, the latter hopelessly lost in their state of perdition. At the resurrection those of mankind who are redeemed by the blood of the Lamb, who is Christ, will in their glorified physical bodies, be clothed with a spiritual body, a building of God (II Corinthians 5:1); so that they will then be in every respect equal to the angels, being altogether a new creation (Luke 20:36). Thus, all reasonable doubt insofar as the context, language, and plain exegesis of Genesis 6:1-4 is concerned, is removed regarding the intent of the writer to convey the concept of angels, fallen angels no doubt, acting in opposition to God's will. This also was the meaning placed on the passage by the Greek translators of the Septuagint, by Josephus, by the writer of the ancient apocryphal book of Enoch, and by all the other ancient Jewish interpreters and the earliest Christian writers. It is apparent that the first Christian writers to depart from this understanding and suggest the Sethite interpretation were Chrysostom and Augustine. Even an appeal to some of the later "fathers," who abandoned the orthodox view of Genesis 6:1-4 because it is "refuted by its own absurdity" must themselves then answer their own patient frivolity of contending that the "giants" were merely individuals of the same race who were "slightly larger and stronger, and more evil," than the rest of the people. By the same token they must also answer why the world at Noah's time was "divided" into Sethites and Cainites, which in reality we know it was not. Furthermore, those who would interject the Christian Church into the Old Testament economy to justify the "sons of God" as being simply believers, thus mortal men, distracts the issue from one of a direct Biblical exegesis to other grounds which are much the obscure, if not outright fallacious. These men, in spite of their greatness in doctrine and theory, were still humanly fallible and capable of missing important elements of Biblical truth in their doctrines. In our own time this opposing view has been widely propagated by C. I. Scofield in the notes of his famous reference Bible. To apply the term "sons of God" as such to mere men is to stretch the matter beyond a reasonable limit, for it can only refer to those sons of God involved in a second and deeper apostasy of those fallen ones from on high.

http://www.ldolphin.org/unruh/giants.html
 
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The sons of God in the old testament referred to angels. When angels found women to be beautiful(Genesis 6:2) they took them as wives, that is where the giants came from.(vs 4) God becomes disgusted with everyone and tells Noah to prepare for a flood. There are many fallen angels, so I'm not sure if what people have encountered over the years are 'aliens' or demons.
 
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jayswife29 said:
The sons of God in the old testament referred to angels. When angels found women to be beautiful(Genesis 6:2) they took them as wives, that is where the giants came from.(vs 4) God becomes disgusted with everyone and tells Noah to prepare for a flood. There are many fallen angels, so I'm not sure if what people have encountered over the years are 'aliens' or demons.
Hi Jayswife29! how yah doin? :wave:
I'm not sure about this either but I thank God that jhessel is around to rile things up in here for us! Thanks jhessel!

Could you answer my question please :pray:
 
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jhessel said:
http://www.raidersnewsupdate.com/Aliens2.htm

"When men began to increase on earth and daughters were born to them, the divine beings saw how beautiful the daughters of men were and they took wives from among those that pleased them....It was then, and later too, that the Nephilim appeared on earth - when the divine beings cohabited with the daughters of men, who bore them offspring. They were the heroes of old, the men of renown." (Genesis, Chapter 6, from the Jewish translation of the Torah.)
What were the offspring of the DAUGHTERS of God?

Did they mate with human Sons of men as the Male Sons of God mated

with daughters of men?
 
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nephilimiyr said:
jhessel do you believe that alien abductions are of a physical nature or of a spiritual nature?

I could say both. People that have been abducted have reported pain and horror. First being taken against their will, and second to have been operated on without anesthesia. I do not think that Christians can be abducted. This is what I would say is the spiritual side of this. I forget where i heard this but someone did a study of abduction cases and supposedly found that there were no Christians on the list of self proclaimed "abductees"
 
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jhessel said:
I could say both. People that have been abducted have reported pain and horror. First being taken against their will, and second to have been operated on without anesthesia. I do not think that Christians can be abducted. This is what I would say is the spiritual side of this. I forget where i heard this but someone did a study of abduction cases and supposedly found that there were no Christians on the list of self proclaimed "abductees"
See if I was to believe any of this I'd have to believe that it is done more on a spiritual/mental level. Most abductees recount floating through their house or appartment walls and then finding themselves in the aliens craft. They see the aliens traveling through walls and doors. So it seems to me that this phenomenon is more of a "mind game" type thing.

I know studies have been done to see if a particular group is being targeted and what has been found is that these abductee's are connexted in some way to the occult. They are either deeply into the occult or have somekind of link to it.
 
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Linda8 said:
What were the offspring of the DAUGHTERS of God?
Did they mate with human Sons of men as the Male Sons of God mated
with daughters of men?

the sons of God (all males, no daughters of God) is the name for the fallen angels who saw women and saw they were beautiful. They left heaven to mate with them and take them as wives (as many as they pleased). The offspring were giants (goliath among others)

To understand the story better you should go to the link below (ill post some of it). The book of enoch focuses mainly on the fallen angels which are called "the watchers" (designated by God to watch over the earth)
very interesting story

http://www.biblefacts.org/bible/demon.html

The old story is as follows:
Enoch 7 And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: ‘Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.’ And Samyaza, who was their leader, said unto them: ‘I fear you will not indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.’ And they all answered him and said: ‘Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.’ Then they all swore together and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And they were two hundred in all; who descended in the days of Jared (between 3541 BC and 3379BC) on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And these are the names of their leaders: Samlazaz, their leader, Araklba, Rameel, Kokablel, Tamlel, Ramlel, Danel, Ezeqeel, Baraqijal, Asael, Armaros, Batarel, Ananel, Zaq1el, Samsapeel, Satarel, Turel, Jomjael, Sariel. These are their chiefs of tens. And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells (should be approximately 13 ft.): Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another’s flesh, and drink the blood. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.

Enoch 8 And Azazel taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals of the earth and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all coloring tinctures. And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways. Samyaza taught enchantments (sorcery), and root-cuttings, ‘Armaros the resolving of enchantments, Baraqijal (taught) astrology, Kokabel the constellations, Ezeqeel the knowledge of the clouds, Araqiel the signs of the earth, Shamsiel the signs of the sun, and Sariel the course of the moon. And as men perished, they cried, and their cry went up to heaven.

Enoch 9 And then Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel looked down from heaven and saw much blood being shed upon the earth, and all lawlessness being wrought upon the earth. And they said to the Lord of the ages: "You see what Azazel has done, who has taught all unrighteousness on earth and revealed the eternal secrets which were (preserved) in heaven, which men were striving to learn: And Samyaza has taught sorcery, to whom You have given authority to bear rule over his associates. And they have gone to the daughters of men upon the earth, and have slept with the women, and have defiled themselves, and revealed to them all kinds of sins. And the women have borne giants, and the whole earth has thereby been filled with blood and unrighteousness. And now, behold, the souls of those who have died are crying and making their suit to the gates of heaven, and their lamentations have ascended: and cannot cease because of the lawless deeds which are wrought on the earth. And You know all things before they come to pass, and You see these things and You do suffer them, and You do not say to us what we are to do to them in regard to these."

Enoch 10 Then said the Most High and sent Uriel to the son of Lamech, and said to him: ‘Go to Noah and tell him in my name "Hide thyself!" and reveal to him the end that is approaching: that the whole earth will be destroyed, and a deluge is about to come upon the whole earth, and will destroy all that is on it. And now instruct him that he may escape and his seed may be preserved for all the generations of the world.

Enoch 15 Why have you left the high, holy, and eternal heaven, and lain with women, and defiled yourselves with the daughters of men and taken to yourselves wives, and done like the children of earth, and begotten giants (as your) sons? And though you were holy, spiritual, living the eternal life, you have defiled yourselves with the blood of women, and have begotten (children) with the blood of flesh, and, as the children of men, have lusted after flesh and blood as those also do who die and perish. Therefore have I given them wives also that they might impregnate them, and beget children by them, that thus nothing might be wanting to them on earth. But you, from the beginning were spiritual, living the eternal life, and immortal for all generations of the world. And therefore I have not appointed wives for you; for as for the spiritual ones of the heaven, in heaven is their dwelling.
 
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Hi Neph, I'm ok, long time no speak!! Anyways, jhessel, youre right about the sons of God being angels. 300 years (b.c.) 70 Jewish scholars translated that term "sons of God" in the septuagint to "angels of God". So Neph, what you described about people claiming to have felt floating sensations while being abducted...to me that sounds like astral projection. People in the new age movement and other occults have reached this state of floating above their body blah blah blah. So again, if these 'aliens' are really demons, then that could explain why christians have not come forth to say they have been 'abducted' by aliens.
 
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Angels and fallen angels ,do not marry. demons are only spirit and cannot mate period. I see angels as creations of God, but Sons of God as men that Knew God in a spiritual way. Genesis 4:26 then began men to call upon the name of the Lord. This reveals that men and God began relationships. What would you call them? ;)
 
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EnterHisgateswithpraise said:
Angels and fallen angels ,do not marry. demons are only spirit and cannot mate period. I see angels as creations of God, but Sons of God as men that Knew God in a spiritual way. Genesis 4:26 then began men to call upon the name of the Lord. This reveals that men and God began relationships. What would you call them? ;)
Wrong because men are not considered "sons of God" until they except Jesus as Lord and saviour. Only by our exceptence of Christ are we considered sons of God

John 1:12, But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

It says here that Jesus gave men power to become the sons of God therefore anyone who does not call upon his name as Lord is not a son of God. It makes no difference whether men in Old Testament times knew God in a spiritual way. This is the word of God, not mine.


1 John 3:2, Beloved, now are we the sons of God.

Romans 8:14, For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.


In Old Testament times the only way a creature can be called a "son of God" is by a direct act of creation by God. Adam was a son of God because God did create him but all others are considered sons of Adam because he was the first man. Angels are directly created by God so they are considered "sons of God". In old Testament times this isn't possible for men to acheive and no where is it writen of men.
 
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Job 19 :25 For I KNOW that my REDEEMER LIVETH, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:and though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God: Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me.

Job disagrees with you! :idea:
 
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EnterHisgateswithpraise said:
Job 19 :25 For I KNOW that my REDEEMER LIVETH, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:and though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God: Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me.

Job disagrees with you! :idea:
How does this say Job disagrees with me? This doesn't mention anything about "sons of God"

But the book of Job does mention the "sons of God".

Job 1:6, Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also among them.

Job 2:1, Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the Lord.

Job 38:6-7, Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?


As you see Job does agree with me that "sons of God" is only used for celestial beings
 
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EnterHisgateswithpraise said:
Who is Job? A Son of God.
Pardon me? Where in the Bible does it say that Job is a son of God? Sounds to me your giving your opinion on this which is a whole different matter when what this actually concerns is what the word of God says.
 
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The Sons of God are Angels.

Chapter six IS THE FALL IN THE GARDEN. It is the same event for event. Angels do something with women that reveal their nakedness and teach forbidden knowledge the end result is God takes away eternal life from man.

1Cor:11:10: For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels

Satan's plan is to have us…………… his half breed Children ……………….rebel and murder Jesus when he returns. Jsut like we did the first time.

The AC is the leader of the Fallen Angels which are now restrained in the pit.

2Pt:2:4: For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

8: The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition

11: And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

These Angels will be released at the Fifth Trumpet rise out of the Pit posses or deceive leaders around the world and start the great Tribulation they will murder the 144,000 (Christians not Jews) and all who follow them.

The AC will destroy armies that surround Jerusalem with fire from heaven it will be a cheap copy of God destroying Gog and Magog in Rev 20:

The Fallen Angels will be back. They will again take human wives. Jesus tells us this is true in very plain language.

37: But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38: For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark,
 
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Just The Facts said:
These Angels will be released at the Fifth Trumpet rise out of the Pit posses or deceive leaders around the world and start the great Tribulation they will murder the 144,000 (Christians not Jews) and all who follow them.

reminds me of this passage. What are the beasts? the nephelim?

"And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth." Rev 6:8

The Fallen Angels will be back. They will again take human wives. Jesus tells us this is true in very plain language.

37: But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38: For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark,

Some say (and i believe) that what is happening with alien abductions is related to this. In alien abductions we have women claiming to be operated on and impregnated. They have been shown half breed test tube alien/human babies. This is very common in abduction reports.
 
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Well I'm back after a LONG break from Christian Forums. I was researching the seeming ties between the fallen angels who are to return with anti christ to deceive the world and alien abduction claims, and this showed up on a search engine. JHessel....it is a blessing to see you still at it bro! God Bless You!

David
 
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