Genesis Is the understanding the of Ancient Hebrews.It doesn't have to be scientific.

[KWCrazy]

It had to have the sun there and it had to settle down in that orbit for there to be plant life. so plant life 3rd day is just wrong. Every thing would get destroyed if the stars and sun and moon showed up on day 4

The order of creation was very specific so that we would know that it was impossible. Plant life came before the creation of the sun specifically to confuse you. We don't know the composition of "light." I suspect it was the origin of the "big bang" which happened on day four when the entirety of the universe with the exception of the sun was formed.

As for other galaxies which cannot be used for signs and seasons because of our limited ability to see them, nothing in the Scriptures ever specifically explains their origin. There could be millions of versions of humanity. We only know of ours.

 

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By not being able to come up with a coherent answer you only demonstrate your own ignorance. I probably understand the Bible better than you do. By having to believe that it is all literally true you put yourself at a huge disadvantage.

I'm sure you do.

 

[BrriKerr]

The order of creation was very specific so that we would know that it was impossible. Plant life came before the creation of the sun specifically to confuse you. We don't know the composition of "light." I suspect it was the origin of the "big bang" which happened on day four when the entirety of the universe with the exception of the sun was formed.

As for other galaxies which cannot be used for signs and seasons because of our limited ability to see them, nothing in the Scriptures ever specifically explains their origin. There could be millions of versions of humanity. We only know of ours.

That's right, when it comes to religion anything can be twisted to say what ever is needed, what's wrong is right and what's right is wrong, all done in an efforts to somehow fool yourselves into believing the unbelievable, good luck to you all, whatever floats your boats.

 

[-57]

That's right, when it comes to religion anything can be twisted to say what ever is needed, what's wrong is right and what's right is wrong, all done in an efforts to somehow fool yourself into believing the unbelievable, good luck to you, whatever floats your boat.

Everything can be twisted? That my anti-god friend is incorrect. Jesus is the ONLY way. There is a final judgement..and you WILL stand before the throne.

...........either that you die and ...POOF...no longer exist. Bye bye. What's the point?

 

[AV1611VET]

I doubt it, but this is your claim. You need to do your homework.

Are you saying she lied?

 

[Subduction Zone]

I'm sure you do.

Then let's not hear any more nonsense on your part. If you want to learn some science and why we know that there was no worldwide flood or other info about Genesis this would be a good place to learn by asking appropriate questions.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Are you saying she lied?

No, I am saying that her post is not a valid source. For science questions you go to scientists for answers, not posters in a forum. She could have merely been grossly in error. Why assume the worst of people? Why would you assume that either she lied or that I was saying that she lief? And don't give me a lame excuse. A person would not have asked such a question unless they thought that either one was the case. It is very easy for people that are not directly involved in the sciences to make errors.

And there were some scientists that shared her feelings. I read an article by one scientist that predicted the decision would be reversed because it was a bad decision in his opinion. Scientists have had plenty of time to reverse that decision and the fact that they haven't indicates that they agree with the reasoning for the change. And no matter what the decision was there would not be nine planets today.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Everything can be twisted? That my anti-god friend is incorrect. Jesus is the ONLY way. There is a final judgement..and you WILL stand before the throne.

...........either that you die and ...POOF...no longer exist. Bye bye. What's the point?

That is rather shallow thinking. I would rather try to make the world better in some way. Even if I am forgotten, which I will be eventually, I still will have made the world a better place for people to live in. That is a worthy pursuit.

 

[dougangel]

The order of creation was very specific so that we would know that it was impossible. Plant life came before the creation of the sun specifically to confuse you. We don't know the composition of "light." I suspect it was the origin of the "big bang" which happened on day four when the entirety of the universe with the exception of the sun was formed.

As for other galaxies which cannot be used for signs and seasons because of our limited ability to see them, nothing in the Scriptures ever specifically explains their origin. There could be millions of versions of humanity. We only know of ours.

Well are you literal or non literal. You seem to be back tracking on what you were saying. You seem very confused.

 

[AV1611VET]

No, I am saying that her post is not a valid source. For science questions you go to scientists for answers, not posters in a forum.

Let me get this straight.

A shrewdness of scientists rig a vote, and you want me to go to them to admit it?

If you don't want me to go to them, you want me to go to other scientists who were no more there than she was to confirm it?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Let me get this straight.

A shrewdness of scientists rig a vote, and you want me to go to them to admit it?

If you don't want me to go to them, you want me to go to other scientists who were no more there than she was to confirm it?

No, I want you to show evidence for your claims. I don't care if the scientists admitted any wrong or not, that is besides the point. Now you have made an accusation against your fellow man. If you can't support that claim with valid evidence then you have just broken the Ninth Commandment. Find a valid source, not merely some poster that agrees with you, that the vote was rigged. And that no one has had a chance to change that vote after the fact. You and I both know that you have nothing.

 

[AV1611VET]

No, I want you to show evidence for your claims. I don't care if the scientists admitted any wrong or not, that is besides the point. Now you have made an accusation against your fellow man. If you can't support that claim with valid evidence then you have just broken the Ninth Commandment. Find a valid source, not merely some poster that agrees with you, that the vote was rigged. And that no one has had a chance to change that vote after the fact. You and I both know that you have nothing.

I have no reason to doubt what she said.

Until I do, you can ark & spark all you want about the Ninth Commandment, and it's not going to work.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I have no reason to doubt what she said.

Until I do, you can ark & spark all you want about the Ninth Commandment, and it's not going to work.

Again, we are not discussing what the poster that you linked to said. That is immaterial. We are talking about your false accusations against others. If you make an accusation against someone else then you have a moral duty to support that claim.

 

[AV1611VET]

Again, we are not discussing what the poster that you linked to said.

Yes, we are.

Or this conversation is over.

I promise you.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yes, we are.

Or this conversation is over.

I promise you.

Sine the poster that you linked was not a valid authority for the discussion then the conversation is over. But thanks for admitting by inaction your inability to support your claims.

 

[BrriKerr]

...........either that you die and ...POOF...no longer exist. Bye bye.

You nailed it in one, that is exactly what happens to us all, our brain dies along with it our dreams and our wishes,
we then revert to the state we were in before we were born, it didn't bother us then and it won't bother us again.

What's the point?

Who ever said there needed to be a point? the only point there is to your life is the point you give it yourself.
If you can't handle that there is always a religion to cling to, take your pick there are hundreds of them..

 

[BrriKerr]

What if they were?
If you understand inductive reasoning then you would know that life on 100% of the solar systems we can explore would indicate that life must be fairly common. Life on only one of billions of stars would give lie to everything science teaches about the natural evolution of man. If you believe that life evolved here, then you MUST believe in panspermia. If you claim that life evolved here and only here then you can count yourself among the superstitious because your belief is 100% inconsistent with science. You don't get it both ways. Life on earth is proof that life can originate; either by natural or supernatural means. While we haven't discovered life on other planets, neither can we claim with any certainty that it doesn't exist.

Who said life doesn't exist on other planets because it more than likely does? there is just the ever so small problem of distance to overcome, they could have set out to reach here a million years ago and still be traveling, how would we know?
The problem with living in a fantasy world is there are no boundaries to hold the mind in check and people tend to wonder into the unhinged section, religion doesn't help either because it allows people to believe the unbelievable in everything not just religion.

 

[KWCrazy]

Well are you literal or non literal. You seem to be back tracking on what you were saying. You seem very confused.

I'm not confused at all. I'm simply stating what is in the Scriptures and what is not. The Scriptures state that the sun, moon and stars were created on day four, and prior to that there was a source of light. Now we don't see another source of light other than the sun, which means it went somewhere. My guess is that it became the rest of the our galaxy; the "big bang," then, happened on day four. It did not include the earth, which was already formed.
Nothing in the Scriptures precludes other created life.
Nothing in the Scriptures precludes other created worlds.
Nothing in the Scriptures precludes God from creating additional species other than what is mentioned.
The Scriptures are not intended to transcribe all that can be known about the universe. They are the the words from the Lord about the history and failings of man as well as the offered chance for salvation.

 

[KWCrazy]

there is just the ever so small problem of distance to overcome, they could have set out to reach here a million years ago and still be traveling, how would we know?

We don't know how to overcome the distance. It doesn't mean that others have or have not overcome the barrier. It was once thought that the US was unreachable by foreign enemies because of the vastness of the oceans. That is no longer true either. Maybe some day space travel will be as fast and easy as air travel is today. Maybe a civilization a million years older than us already discovered this. Maybe not. There isn't enough data for a definitive answer.

 

[-57]

Then let's not hear any more nonsense on your part. If you want to learn some science and why we know that there was no worldwide flood or other info about Genesis this would be a good place to learn by asking appropriate questions.

I'm sure there wasn't a world wide flood. After all, you said there wasn't.