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Genesis ABEL= Cross of Christ

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Starr

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Natural man and Spiritual man
(Cain and Abel)


I wrote this up, if anyones interested in Seeing Jesus Christ on the cross here in Genesis (Cain and Abel) ALL His cries on the cross are seen in this picture. I never hear anyone talk about why He cried what He did or how it could possibly relate to something that needed to be fulfilled (in His words) so when I found these I was blessed to see My Lords Cries on the Cross hidden in the Ancient Text. I'm no, "speaker" or anything, I have no point here, just a picture, just seeing Him... thats enough for me.


In the Similitude of Cain and Abel we find the Testimony of Jesus Christ (The Spirit of Prophecy). The Natural man = Cain= Firstborn of the flesh (in service to God) The Spiritual man =Jesus =Second born (The Blood offering in Spirit and Life). Cain is SERVING GOD HERE, working the ground that was cursed, which can be seen as those under the law are under a curse. If Faith worketh Love in us, Wrath worketh anger in those under the law. We are to know others by their fruit. The fruit of which Tree the are partaking from. The natural man is hostile toward God, as shown in this similitude. His hostility toward Abel in this picture of the hostility Christ would encounter (hidden in Gods foreknowledge) as well as our own In Christ. Just as in the Apostle Paul’s case He thought He was doing a service to God. He was in service of God, or at least thought he was and ended up persecuting the Church herself. Cain is a picture of the religious establishment that hated the fact that the people were following after Christ verses them. They liked the best seats in Temple, the recognition they received, made an open show of prayer, and the like but they were whitewashed tombs. Cain doesn't realize that“sacrifices and offerings God hath not desired”

In this picture I would mostly like not to give a sermon, but to share a picture of Jesus Christ we all know is there. This is my joy and my pleasure in Him. I love to see Jesus and I think you’ll like this too.

Looking at Abel we see Him crying out TO GOD from the ground, like Jesus crying Out TO GOD from the Earth at the time He was crucified. Someone might say, Christ cries better words than that of Abel (as scripture states) I agree. But since this is a SIMILITUDE of CHRIST and God asks us here in this story to LISTEN we need to find Abel’s Cry if we are to compare the two. You can’t say one cries better words unless you can hear what Abels words were. Christ FULFILLS ABELS CRY TO GOD FROM THE GROUND saying, “My God My God, Why hast thou forsaken me”? These cries ARE ABEL'S. This is the Cry God said to Cain to LISTEN to. at the Cross did you notice WHO HEARD? God turns to Cain, “What is this YOU HAVE DONE”?? Jesus now (still at the Cross here) is ANSWERING GOD in THIS picture, “Father forgive them (seed of Cain) They KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO”. This is COMPLETELY AMAZING!! Christ is now crying BETTER words then that of Abel (who never speaks any words, YET God says LISTEN!) In Christ we hear BOTH from CHRIST who is to fulfill all that is written concerning Him. So the summing up of ALL things is in Christ. "Lo I come in the VOLUME of THY BOOK it is written OF ME, Christ says.

Follow me here, because it gets better!!! Every word Christ cries on the Cross is here.

Remember Jesus says to his mother, “WOMAN” did you ever wonder why he just didn’t call her mom or mother?(These are SPITITUAL TRUTHS Because the WOMAN is EVE and EVE TYPES THE CHURCH that’s why He relates to His Disciples ( who are all men) and says, as a WOMAN giving birth has her travail because her time is come SO IT IS WITH YOU. They are ready to travail with a man child here NAMELY CHRIST IN THEM.

How can we see how this relates to the cross and Genesis moving right along looking at picture after picture as Christ gives it order.

Ok Adam knew His wife again and bare a SON “SETH” which means GOD APPOINTED OR GOD GRANTED and both those terms are in reference to OUR SALVATION!! God HIMSELF has granted us Life in His Son. This is the same picture where He speaks to His mother calling her “Woman” and says HERE IS YOUR SON and to the disciple Here is your mother. This is a PICTURE. Christ needed to fulfill it.


Christ commends His Spirit into the Fathers Hands (keep following the picture in Gen 4:22) It says ***AT THIS TIME MEN BEGAN CALLING ON THE NAME OF THE LORD**** HOW CAN THIS BE????, PAUL SAID NO OTHER NAME HAD EVER BEEN GIVEN save the name of JESUS CHRIST!? BECAUSE this IS A PICTURE OF JESUS CHRIST!!!!! It was after He died on the cross seen in this picture of Cain and Abel (In a similitude) yielded up His Spirit that we who call upon the name of the Lord are GRANTED BY GOD= SETH (means God granted) which is CHRIST IN US.


Christ is THE TRUTH IN THIS SHADOW and this too finds its fulfillment in Him. As ALL THINGS are SUMMED UP IN CHRIST. Paul just HINTS at these things but never expounds them in full, he leaves that to us.

After this point God concludes the Generation of Adam (930 years Adam and 70 desolation Jerusalem= 1000 years- that’s another story though).


Back to Genesis and Christ being seen in the picture.

God says in Genesis 5:2 Male and female He CREATED THEM and when He CREATED them He blessed THEM, and CALLED THEIR NAME ADAM, IN THE DAY THEY WERE CREATED.

Now Psalms 104:30 says, “When HE SENDS HIS SPIRIT THEY ARE CREATED” and He Renews the face of the earth.

The picture in Genesis is SHOWING just HOW and WHEN God SENDS HIS SPIRIT. The Psalms show only WHEN HE DOES THEY (male and female) ARE TRULY CREATED when God does this. The ENTIRE PICTURE IS HIDDEN HERE!! Amazing!!! Thus IT WAS HERE AT THE CROSS WHERE GOD MADE THEM (both male and female)ONE NEW MAN.

THIS IS WHERE PAUL UNDERSTOOD there was NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MALE AND FEMALE (Jew Greek etc.)For All are ONE IN CHRIST. The picture in Genesis CONFIRMS THIS and shows what Paul was saying was true in relation to Christ.

If you look at Genesis you can take the four gospels at the time of the cross and lay them directly over these and they will confirm each other. Christ is THE TRUTH of the SCRIPTURES. The MANIFESTATION of ALL THAT WAS WRITTEN. IN CHRIST in whom ALL THE TREASURES OF WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE ARE HIDDEN!!! If we see Christ we are seeing them correctly

The other study is just as awesome, its with the words FORMED, MADE and CREATED. One counts for nothing and in the OTHER TWO are found the Blood Water and Spirit which Testify, these are all found in Genesis. I’ve been in this book for YEARS and I continue to get blessed over and over again. The Days are Speaking of Christ, gathered waters, expanse, stars for signs etc. these are FILLED with TREASURES of Him. I’m not a teachy type person, I don’t know how, I’m just excited and I write stuff down, its all scriptural run a check (I hate those little numbers on every sentence) If it blesses you it blesses you if not that’s ok too, I just share what does and desire to fill others with the same Joy of seeing Him.



In Him
Starr
 
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