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Rick Santorum Suspends Campaign | C-SPAN

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Gene lobby hit twice Santorum => Popular Values Movement's votes (looted by GOP Technocrats) need New Party !
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Many People were surprised from the sudden anouncement, by the Leader of the Conservative Majority in People's Votes at GOP's Primaries, the popular, strong on principles and young Senator Rick Santorum, that he "suspends" his campaign, while, a few Days earlier, he had, on the contrary, declared "Ready for a Strong 2nd Half" in the race for the November 2012 US Presidential Election :

Indeed, Santorum had already won 11 big, American mainland States, traditional GOP's strongholds, and was expected to win also in his "Swing" State of Pensylvania on April, as well as in Texas (155 delegates) and many other States on May (Indiana, Nebraska, North Carolina, West Virginia, Kentucky, Arkansas), starting Stronger the June finals f.ex. on Utah, Montana, South Dakota, probably New Mexico, etc. He has also become the Leader of the growing Conservative Majority in People's Votes at GOP's Primaries (more than 5 Millions, compared to some 4 Millions only for Romney, i.e. - 1 Million less, who, on the contrary, became a Diminishing Minority of only 39% against 61% for his Opponents, Santorum Gingrich and Paul all together, with a difference of + 2 Millions of People's Votes more for them), so that a road towards an "Open" GOP Convention on August appeared plausible, with an unpredictable outcome. (F.ex. as back in the 1860 GOP Convention win by "outsider" Abraham Lincoln at the 3rd ballot, after delegates became Free to vote for any candidate)...

+ Moreover, Romney has completely LOST at more than FIVE (5) big Mainland America States, where he Fell Down LAST (Lower than Gingrich or even Paul !) : Minnesota, Oklahoma, North Dakota, Alabama, Mississipi. On the contrary, Santorum NEVER fell so low in any State where he participated, (i.e. exluding the only Controversial "Exception" of Virginia + CD where Bureaucracy Hindered him even to participate)...

Santorum clearly leads among Conservatives with more than 285 Delegates, instead of only 136 for Gingrich (and 51 Paul), and + 1 Million People's Votes more than Gingrich, (+ 2,1 Millions more than Paul), having won in Eleven (11) States, instead of only Two (2) for Gingrich, (and none for Paul), with more than 27 % at Nationwide Polls today compared to only 11 % for Gingrich, (i.e. almost Three times less)...
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>>> Thus, both at the Eve and even during that same Day, at a few Hours' distance from his unexpected "suspension" anouncement, Santorum Campaigns' Managers had strongly denied any rumours about quiting the race, while he had just published a full Agenda with a Weekly Schedule for April 10 - 15 under the Heading : - "Back to the Campaign trail", and People were travelling to Gettysburg with Family and kids to hear him speak at a pre-electoral campaign public meeting !

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Trying to explain the Mystery of that last-minute U-turn, most US and foreign Media focus mainly on the fact that Santorum's Daughter, Bella, suddenly was hit by a serious Health incident, necessitating Urgent Hospitalisation, etc., as he mentioned himself at the beginning of his "suspension" anouncement.

Bella was suffering by serious Genetic disorders, and, by a "coincidence", a main reason for which both us and many other People supported Santorum, was his crystal-clear and strong on principles stance against Dangerous Genetic Manipulations on Human Embryos, with Risks for all Humankind, particularly after Obama cancelled former US President GWBush's prohibition of Federal Funding in that area, (See our initial Publications). On the contrary, Romney's initial program looks too vague, uncertain and "flip-flop" on this crucial issue.

So that the sudden upheaval provoked by Genetic Lobby's doctors, regularly following Bella since her Birth, curiously at the same time that "Pressure" of all kinds was notoriously growing on Santorum, mainly from GOP's Establishment, to stop competing so strongly Romney, fearing that more competition might weaken their "favorite" even more, obviously raises some questions : - Perhaps, was Santorum "hit" by a sly manoeuver of some unscrupulous, hypocritic Technocrats hidden inside the Genetic Lobby, who undeniably had an interest to ensure that he would be excluded from any chance to become US President ?

The real interests at stake are not only many Hundreds of Millions $, but even Billions $, in addition into possibilities for some to seize a huge Power over Society, in a way where it's difficult to prevent any dangerous abuse...

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However, Bella's Health incident is not enough in order to explain what really happened : The kid had already returned Home two Days before, her situation becoming better, and Santorum did not even claimed that this might have been the reason for his unexpected U-turn, suddenly on Tuesday afternoon.

On the contrary, he mentioned, both orally, and even more explicitly by writting (at a Press Release published also at his campaign's Website), an absolutely Differend, but additionally negative for him, Factor :

- The fact that he, suddenly, "didn't see", no more, "a Pathway" towards a possible GOP Nomination for him, (contrary to what both himself and his Team had declared just a few Days earlier : See our relevant earlier Publications), paticularly after it was excluded that Texas might change its currently Proportional electoral system, into a "Winner Takes All" system, which would have allowed Santorum, as probable Winner according to the Polls, to take + 155 Delegates there on May...

Indeed, attempts to change Texas' system of Delegates' allocation to a "Winner takes all", (as well of Florida's, on the contrary, from a "Winner takes all" to a "Proportional" system, in order to Share the big number of Delegates obtained there by Romney's 1st place, also among the other Candidates, as Gingrich, Santorum and Paul, who, taken all together, had got much More People's Votes than Romney), had been revealed, just a few Days earlier, both by the Press and by the Publication of an interesting Study from his Campaign Team, after having strongly Criticized the way that mainstream Media present the real number of Delegates won by each one among the Candidates, (See our relevant, earlier Publication).

=> The Aim was to make the overall GOP Primaries' Electoral System FAIR, because, otherwise, its current Rules almost Systematically favored Romney but looted Santorum in the allocation of Delegates, irrespectively of the People's Votes obtained by each of them, i.e. contrary to elementary Principles of Democracy :

This apparently complicated and obscure system, set up previously by GOP's Establishment for the 2012 Primaries throughout all 50 USA States, becomes, in fact, very "Easy" to understand when it is seen from the Viewpoint of the Romney - Santorum+ competition :

- Astonishingly, indeed, almost all big States where Conservatives, led by Santorum, were known to be stronger, (such as Texas, etc) had got a "Proportional" system for the allocation of Delegates, (who were, therefore, "Shared" between the 1st, 2nd and 3rd in the race), while, on the contrary, almost all big States known to be usually favorable to Centrist, Independent, or Dems' leaning Candidates (as now Romney : f.ex. Florida, California, etc), had got a "Winner takes All" system, giving ALL Delegates to whom came First, (even if he was a Minority, and/or only at 1% distance from a Strong Second, Third, etc. Competitor) !

+ Moreover, making things obviously even more Difficult for Conservatives, the Date of Texas' primary votes had been, successively, postponed 2 times, pushed later and even later on, until it was displaced from March or April at the End of May (29), so that Santorum was hindered to have on time the benefit of the big Momentum with which a Texas win (predicted by Polls) would certainly Boost his campaign.

++ Aggravating this blatantly Unequal situation, Santorum (and sometimes also Gingrich) had been practically Excluded from participating in various Small States, particularly in several overseas , "Exotic" locations at the other side of the World Map, (f.ex. Guam, Samoa, Marianas Islands, etc), and even in certain mainland States (f.ex. Virginia, DC, etc), where they were hindered even to take any vote, leaving to Romney a scandalous and unhealthy "Monopole" with Exclusive usurpation of ALL Delegates, regardless of the People's votes (i.e. even if he took only a few votes)...

=> The obvious Result of all these Bureaucratic Manouvers and Procedural Dirty Tricks was that the Popular Conservative Values' Movement was largely LOOTED from its more numerous (See above) People's Votes (even if it got a Majority of more than 5,5 Millions of Votes, i.e. + 1 Million Votes more), while, at the same moment, Romney usurpated most Delegates, (even if he had a Minority of People's Votes : 4,5, i.e. 1 Million less) : Consequence = a Scandalous, Anti-Democratic THEFT committed by the GOP's Establishment against the Popular "Values" Movement !

F.ex. in one among the many Scandalous concrete cases, Santorum received only 5 Delegates more than Romney in Louisiana, where he crushed him with a Big Difference in People's Votes of almost 50% against only 26%, and with + 42.000 People's Votes more, while Romney received ... 25 Delegates compared to none (0) for Santorum, in ... Guam, Samoa, Virgin and Marianas Islands, where he got only ... 1.000 Votes, compared to none (0) for Santorum, (simply because he was Hindered even to participate) :

=> I.e. there, Romney was given by the System X 500 % MORE Delegates for .... X 4.200 % LESS People's Votes than Santorum ! Equivalent to turning the World Upside Down....
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But the more Interesting Fact is that, according to converging Press Reports and Testimonies on the spot, the above mentioned Efforts to change Texas' Delegates' allocation system from "Proportional" into "Winner takes All", (a "Critical" issue for the race, as his SpokesWoman Alice Stewart stressed), apparently were Advancing Well, and Heading for Success, since the required 15 Texas State Republican Executive Committee's Members needed to call an Emergency Meeting, the Quorum of 50%, and a Majority of Two Thirds among SREC's 62 Members had been finally found, and they were Ready to support a Resolution for that Change, as a means not only to help Santorum and make GOP's procedures Fair, but also to boost Texas' influence in GOP's primaries.

However, all this was finally Stoped, reportedly because of the Opposition from a Technocrat at GOP's Establishment, away in Wash. DC, under strictly Bureaucratic pretexts, and of Texas' Governor Perry, an early Drop-out at the 2012 GOP Primaries, who Blocked any such efforts to make the system Fair.

>>> Perry is a supporter of Gingrich, Santorum's competitor who Divided and Weakened Conservatives' votes, which, otherwise, i.e. if they had been United, they would have formed a Majority crushing Romney ( See above).

+ More important, Perry lost his earlier momentum in the 2012 GOP Primaries, after Michelle Bachmann, initial Candidate of the grassroots Popular Values' Movement, strongly Criticized him, denouncing his controversial attempt to impose an obligatory Massive Vaccination to all School- Girls, which had Stopped thanks to their Resistance and their Families' Revolt and Protests, who revealed an "Insider" Scandal including that Perry's Office Director was linked to a Big Corporation involved in Genetic Technology and selling that infamous Vaccine, which had even paid for Perry's electoral campaigns...

Since Perry's Genetic Big Business links had attempted to impose by force that controversial Vaccine to all Girls at school age, i.e. to all Mothers-to-be, and given that most Vaccines can even penetrate their hosts' Genes, this practically means that, if the Girls' Families had not reacted strongly, practically ... all Children due to be born in Texas in the Future would have been subjected to unknown yet Risks over their own Genetics since their Embryonic stage at their Mother's womb !

Therefore, it's not surprising why even the experienced former USPresident GWBush reportedly mistrusted Perry recently...

Such risks are obviously in contrast with Santorum's 2012 US Presidential Election campaign's views on Issues as "the Dignity of Human Life", (as Rick has just reminded in his last Anouncement), and his well-documented and crystal-clear Opposal to any dangerous Genetic Manipulation of Human Embryos, that even his official Website reminds. This important point is also a main reason for which both we and many other People decided to support him, (particularly after Obama's controversial decision to cancel former US President GWBush's prohibition of Federal Funding for Genetic Interventions on Human Embryos (Comp. above).

=> In consequence, it is Surprising to find that Both these 2 unexpected Obstacles which could explain Santorum's sudden Decision to Halt his 2012 US Presidential Electoral Campaign are linked with crucial Issues of Genetic Technology interventions on Human Embryos, which might be dangerous for all Humankind and, therefore, are objects of serious BioEthical Controversies, both inside the US, and Worldwide !

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The Popular "Values" Movement currently growing in America, had suceeded to convince former US President GWBush to include the above mentioned Prohibition of Federal Funds for dangerous Genetic Manipulation of Human Embryos, already since he 1999-2000 GOP Primaries, and, therefore, supported him to win against his competitor McCain, as well as in his difficult but finally succesful bid against Liberal former-vice President Gore for the White House job back on 2000.

+ Moreover, it became the main Driving Force behind the unexpected, brillant Victory of US President GWBush's with a Crystal-clear Majority of more than +3 Millions of People's Votes at the 2004 Presidential Election against Liberal Dem's Millionaire Kerry, who had an opposite Agenda on this crucial issue : A last minute rush to Vote by People motivated mainly by Moral "Values", including the protection of Human Embryo from dangerous Genetic Manipulations risky for all Humankind, succeeded to Change a "50-50 tie" (pictured even at hasty "Exit Polls" !) into a Spectacular Win, as it was finaly revealed next Morning... We know that Historic moment quite well, since we were part of it.

++ Back on 2008, this same Popular Values Movement supported GOP Primaries' Conservative frontrunner Governor Mike Huckabee, who succeeded to lead up to the infamous "SuperTuesday" threshhold, revealing its real character as ... "SuperTHEFTDay", i.e. Day on which any Political Representative of those People, even if strongly supported by a growing Number of American Citizens, Risks, neverthess, to be Weakened and Deprived of his Leading position, by a Scandalous Bureaucratic Procedure which viciously obliges a Candidate to try to be actively present, at the Same Time, in Many different Big States, located far away the one after the other.... This was exploited, since March 2008, by his flip-flop competitor McCain, who blatantly failed in front of Dems' Obama on November 2008 ...

+++ Now, on 2012, Popular Values Movement, after trying to go on, initially with Michelle Bachmann, etc., finally found his New Representative in the eyes of Senator Rick Santorum and succeeded to Win many States and People's Votes, taking the Lead of a Conservative Majority even well Beyond the "SuperTuesday", up to April 2012, heading for a promissing May 2012 with many possible Wins (See above). But it was suddently obliged to Halt, suprisingly now, in the middle of April 2012, apparently because of the above-mentioned Obstacles, (2 among the most crucial are linked with Big Stakes on Human Genetic BioTechnologies, as we found).

+ The bureaucratic Procedure set up by GOP's Establishment in a way that it viciously Robbs the Representative of the Popular "Values" Movement from many Delegates, practically Looting him from a Great Number of Peoples' Votes, (See Facts above), now arrived at a culminating point, being apparently the main reason behind Conservative Majority's Leader Santorum's sudden decision to "Suspend" his 2012 US Presidential Campaign :

- Significantly, f.ex., his Campaign's Chief Strategist, John Brabender, reportedly denounced the fact that, in addition, - ""We didn't have the money to play in multiple battles …we just couldn't compete in Delaware, Connecticut, and New York at the same time as Pennsylvania".

On the contrary, ... flip-flop Millionaire "Romney's campaign was ready .. : They were poised to launch an all-out Air War against Santorum, having reserved more than $ 2.2 Million of airtime on Television stations across the (Pensylvania) state starting this week", he denounced...
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But, from now on, Romney badly needs from Santorum a warm and convincing Endorsement, if he wants to have any real chance to beat Obama :

Not only because Santorum is the Winner at America's Conservative Heartland, as a Map easily shows, but also because recent Polls revealed that Romney's appeal to GOP Voters is even LESS than that of McCain's, who lost in front of Obama back on 2008 : In fact, only 35 % of Republican Voters claim to be "enthousiastic" about Romney, while, on the contrary, 19 % are so opposed that they would prefer to stay Home, go Fishing, or even vote Obama ! => I.e. an almost 3 against 2 split inside GOP... In comparison, McCain "enthousiasmed" more than + 47 % of Republican voters, back on 2008, (i.e. + 12 % MORE than Romney !). At the same time, the number of those prefering to stay Home or even vote Obama was Smaller for - 5% points on McCain's case in the Past (compared to Romney's worse result now on 2012), with "only" 14% negative GOP views expressed then, back on 2008.

+ >>> Moreover, Santorum could have knocked-out Romney's 2012 US Presidential bid, even Now, despite everything, by a very Simple method :

- Thanks to the Vigour of the strong Popular "Values" Movement, it's a Fact that the absolute Number and the Percentage of People's Votes for Santorum, followed by Gingrich and Paul, has been regularly Growing after each Date for Votes throughout all GOP Primaries, not only in the States that he won with a Large Majority, but even in the States which were usurpated by a Diminishing Minority of Votes obtained by Romney thanks only to the Exploitation of a grossly Unfair Procedure set up by GOP's Establishment (See Facts already cited above). In consequence, Romney's Number and Percentage of People's Votes were regularly .. DIMINISHING, and he had just Fallen, for the 1st time, Lower even than 40%, dropping Down to only 39% against 61% of Peoples' Votes in favor of his Competitors, (led by Santorum, followed by Gingrich and Paul)...

=> Therefore, if Santorum maintained his initial Decision to Stay in the Race until the End of GOP Primaries on June, he would either succeed to win enough Delegates to get himself GOP's Nomination or, at least, to go to an "Open" GOP National Convention on August, (the most Probable), otherwise, i.e. if Romney exploited that vicious Procedure which looted Santorum's Delegates (See above) until he usurpated the GOP Nomination, then, Santorum could easily trigger a Political "Earthquake" simply by revealing in Public and strongly Denouncing the Scandalous Fact that Romney would have usurpated most Delegates and GOP's Nomination, in reality, only with a ... Small MINORITY of People's Votes (f.ex. falling down to around only 25% at the End of June, against a large Majority of ...75% for his Opponents ; the Santorum-led Conservative Majority and Paul) !

>>> Such a Schocking Revelation, denouncing GOP Establishment's blatantly Flawed and viciously Anti-Democratic Procedure in the 2012 Primaries (See Facts above), would certainly Discredit Romney and even more GOP's Bureaucrats as such, sending strong waves of a "Political Earthquake" accross the Countryin a so "explosive" way that it would Mark for ever its History....

However, Santorum, apparently considered, but decided not to make any use, (at least for the moment), of that "Political NitroGlycerine" method :

- Indeed, in his official, written Anouncement published in a Press Release, he simply observes that "without the (Texas) State changing its delegate allocation to winner-take-all, I do not see a path forward that does not risk our shared objective of defeating Barack Obama in November", as he carefully said.

=> In other words, Santorum could, but decided not to advance in a "Path Forward" which would have either made him Win the race, or, at least, break down Romney's campaign, by revealing that it was mainly based on the Exploitation of a grossly Unfair Procedure, looting People's Votes from his Conservative Competitors !

Because, in that 2nd case, by revealing in front of all, in Public, Romney's Weakness and GOP's blatant Mismanagement, he would "risk our shared objective of defeating Barack Obama in November", something that Santorum refused to do, as he said in this sentence where each Word has been obviously chosen with care...

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=> The ROAD AHEAD for the Popular "Values" Movement :
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What, then, should be better done by the Popular "Values" Movement, from now on ?

- In the Short Term, i.e. immediately, now, People must obviously try to convince Romney to broker a Deal, by undertaking, in a crystal-clear way, certain Commitments, including to beef-up his currently marginal mentions on the need to protect the Human Embryo from Dangerous Genetic Manipulations, by cancelling Obama's March 2009 controversial Decision and Restoring former US President GWBush's August 2001 Prohibition of any Federal Funding of such activities, full of Risks even for all Humankind, so that any "flip-flop" ambiguity would be lifted on this crucial issue, as well as in others (f.ex. Families, Moral Values, Individual Freedoms, etc).

This obviously has to be a clear Condition for a real Endorsement of Romney by Santorum during the Next Months, (that Mitt badly needs : See above), if an Agreement is reached by the two men.

If not, both Romney and GOP's Establishment will naturally bear Heavy Responsibilities for an otherwise unavoidable 2nd Failure in front of Obama on November 2012, (as also back on 2008)...

If Romney really accepts, we should help him win against Obama, (and keep a vigilent eye on the respect of his commitments). If he refuses (or behaves hypocritically, betraying in practice any commitments on crucial issues), then, the People must start immediately to apply from Today the subsequent Plan "B", in one way or another, even, when necessary, with Fast Moves.
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+ But, both right Now, and for the forseeable Future, the American Popular "Values" Movement, which has been Growing during the recent 15 Years (comp. Facts and Dates already cited above), naturally has to seriously reconsider its own Long-Term Strategy :

>>> On 2012, one thing has become, at last, for the 1st time in History, absolutely crystal-clear, (added also to the Experience of 2008 : See above) :

=> The pre-Electoral, Candidates' selection Procedure set up by GOP's Establishment for the Primaries, in view of US Presidential Elections, is blatantly BIAISED, grossly Anti-Democratic, and a Sly Trap against the Popular "Values" Movement, looting it from its People's Votes, obstructing, oppressing and Censoring its Potential, in order to be always Subordinated under the jug of an Agent of the Establishment :

- It has now become an established Fact, that, astonishingly, most GOP's RINOS even prefer to practically give the US Presidency to the ... Dems, ensuring f.ex. ...Obama's election and/or re-election, (as they already did back on 2008, and might attempt to repeat also on 2012 : See above), in order for him to do the "Dirty Job" that they don't want to openly assume the responsibility, (f.ex. on the crucial issue of dangerous Genetic Manipulations on Human Embryos, Risky for all Humankind, etc), instead of leaving the Popular "Values" Movement free to conquer democratically the US Presidency !...

===> In consequence, all those who already feel part of the recently growing Popular "Values" Movement, or wish to join it now and/or in the Future, must really start to seriously consider, planify and prepare to Create a brand NEW PARTY, (f.ex. an "American Constitutional Party for conserving basic Values and Freedoms") !

Because, from now on, it has become crystal-clear that it's only in this way that the Popular "Values" Movement will become able to focus all its People's Energy into finally Winning the US Presidential and House' Elections,

for which there is NO MORE TIME TO WASTE on sly, hypocritical Traps such as GOP Establishements' cumbersome, complicated and scandalously biaised, Bureaucratic Procedures, which have just been revealed as Tools made for Looting Simple, Honest Working American People's Votes, deviating and usurpating them in order to be abusively exploited at the exclusive service of an Agent of the Establishement whoever....

What is really at stake in America's and the whole World's, even Humankind's History at the present period of Time, has already become Serious and Important enough in order to make necessary an Urgent and Efficient, Decisive Action by an adequately oriented, sincere and strong Popular "Values" Movement able to create its own Political Will's, New institutional Tools.

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Many People were surprised from the sudden anouncement, by the Leader of the Conservative Majority in People's Votes at GOP's Primaries, the popular, strong on principles and young Senator Rick Santorum, that he "suspends" his campaign, while, a few Days earlier, he had, on the contrary, declared "Ready for a Strong 2nd Half" in the race for the November 2012 US Presidential Election :

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Also, learn the correct usage of capitalization, for pete's sake.
 
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We thought he had left, but instead he downed an entire gallon of crazy juice, plugged in that keyboard with the seemingly broken shift key, and came back with force.

I'm sorry, young, dynamic, and virile force.
 
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We thought he had left, but instead he downed an entire gallon of crazy juice, plugged in that keyboard with the seemingly broken shift key, and came back with force.

I'm sorry, young, dynamic, and virile force.

I wonder how long it took for him to make that giant tin foil hat?

Maren(wonder how many rolls of aluminum foil it took?)
 
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I wonder how long it took for him to make that giant tin foil hat?

Maren(wonder how many rolls of aluminum foil it took?)

...that's a hat? I thought we had picked up a second, smaller moon along the way.
 
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from OP said:
This apparently complicated and obscure system, set up previously by GOP's Establishment for the 2012 Primaries throughout all 55 USA States

I knew there were more then 50 States! :D
tulc(vote President Obama: he's ahead of the curve!) ;)
 
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Vylo said:
We thought he had left, but instead he downed an entire gallon of crazy juice, plugged in that keyboard with the seemingly broken shift key, and came back with force.

I'm sorry, young, dynamic, and virile force.




Solid values, concrete directional, no-flip-flopping, straight on record, invigorating force.


Thanks guys, that's "kind", particularly when it obviously comes from interlocutors who obviously have differend Political origins.

By the way, that "New Party" could certainly Welcome also any Simple, Honest, hard Working, American People coming from ALL Political Horizons, including those probably Disappointed by Mr. Obama.

=> If you wish, we could keep you some Seats, close to the Orchestra....

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I knew there were more then 50 States! :D
tulc(vote President Obama: he's ahead of the curve!) ;)

No, ....Islamistan has NOT YET become the 51st USA's State, despite sincere efforts currently made by all those supporting the New York "Ground Zero" Mosque, (even contrary to 9/11 WTC Victims' Families)...

=> May be, during the Next 4 or 5 Years ? :D

(And it won't be just an insignificant Typing error).....
 
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the New York "Ground Zero" Mosque, (even contrary to 9/11 WTC Victims' Families)...

Is that the imaginary planned mosque that right-wing conspiracy theorists like to rave about even though there has never been any suggestion for a mosque at Ground Zero?
 
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Is that the imaginary planned mosque that right-wing conspiracy theorists like to rave about even though there has never been any suggestion for a mosque at Ground Zero?

Are you kidding ?....


....Polls

Opponents of Park51 protest on August 22, 2010.

Polls showed that the majority of Americans, New York State residents, and New York City residents opposed building the center near Ground Zero; more Manhattanites support building the center.

The majority of Americans were opposed to the mosque/Islamic center, The New York Times reported in July 2010.[15] By a margin of 54%–20%, American adults were opposed to a mosque being built near Ground Zero, a national Rasmussen Reports poll found that month.[16][17] Furthermore, according to an August 10–11 Fox News poll, 64% of Americans (a majority of each of Democrats (56%–38%), Republicans (76%–17%), and Independents (53%–41%)) thought it would be wrong to build a mosque and Islamic cultural center so close to Ground Zero, and 30% felt it would be appropriate.[18]

A CNN poll conducted August 6–10 found that Americans opposed the Park51 project by a margin of 68%–29%.[19][20] A majority of each of Democrats (54%–34%), Republicans (82%–17%), and Independents (70%–24%) were opposed.[20] An Economist/YouGov national poll taken the week of August 19, 2010 confirmed these findings. Overall, this poll found that Americans opposed the Park51 project by a margin of 57.9%–17.5%, with 24.5% undecided on the question. Democrats (41.0%–28.0%), Republicans (88.3%–1.7%) and Independents (57.6%–21.3%) were opposed to the project according to this poll.[21]

In addition, by a margin of 52%–31% New York City voters opposed the construction, according to a Quinnipiac University Poll carried out in June 2010.[22][23][24][25] ..........Opposition was strongest in Staten Island, where 73% opposed it while only 14% supported it.[22][26] A higher percentage of Republicans (82%) than Democrats (45%) opposed the plan.[27]

A Marist Poll taken July 28 – August 5 showed a similar city-wide margin of registered voters against it (53%–34%, with 13% unsure), although those in Manhattan supported it, reversing the figures: 53% to 31%, with 16% unsure.[28][29] An updated Marist poll in September 2010 showed that support for Park51 had grown, with 41% in favor and 51% opposed. Support among African Americans, liberals, Democrats, and residents of the Bronx had increased. Manhattanites remained supportive.[30]

State-wide, by a margin of 61%–26% New Yorkers opposed the mosque's construction at that location, according to another poll in August 2010, by Siena Research Institute,[31].... whose poll question wording was criticized by a writer at Slate magazine.[34] A majority of both Republicans (81%) and Democrats (55%) were opposed to it, as were conservatives (85%), moderates (55%), and liberals (52%).[33] Among New York City residents, a margin of 56%–33% opposed it.[32]..................

Some polls tried to gauge public opinion of Muslims' right to build Park51 near ground zero. ..................
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Funding sources

Imam Rauf has promised to identify all financial backers of Park51.[38] Developer Sharif El-Gamal said in an August 27 interview that they will refuse money from groups such as the government of Iran and Hamas as well as any other "organizations that have un-American values".[39]

The New York Post states that initially Imam Rauf said the project would be funded entirely by the Muslim American community,[40] though later he told a London-based Arabic-language newspaper Asharq Al-Awsat that he would seek funding from Muslim and Arab nations. The latter story is also reported by NBC.[40]..................

Claudia Rosett, a journalist with the Foundation for Defense of Democracies and a weekly columnist for Forbes, questioned the source of the funding for the project.[46]
Some U.S. politicians such as Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman, who is an Independent Democrat, and Republicans Peter King and Rick Lazio (N.Y.-2), asked for an investigation of the group's finances, especially its foreign funding, despite the fact that fundraising for the project had not yet begun.[48]
King said: "The people who are involved in the construction of the mosque are refusing to say where their [$100 million] funding is going to come from."[49].... Lazio said: "Let's have transparency. If they're foreign governments, we ought to know about it. If they're radical organizations, we ought to know about it."[3]

Opposition

9/11 families

Some relatives of victims of the September 11 attacks said they found the proposal offensive because the perpetrators who committed the attacks did so in the name of Islam.[63] A number said that it was not an issue of freedom of religion, property rights, or racism, but rather one of sensitivity to the families of those killed, in choosing the specific location of the mosque.

A group of victims' relatives, 9/11 Families for a Safe & Strong America, called the proposal "a gross insult to the memory of those who were killed on that terrible day".[4]
Debra Burlingame, a co-founder of the group whose brother died in the attacks, said:
This is a place which is 600 feet from where almost 3,000 people were torn to pieces by Islamic extremists.... it is incredibly insensitive and audacious ... for them to build a mosque ... so that they could be in proximity to where that atrocity happened... The idea that you would establish a religious institution that embraces the very shariah law that terrorists point to as their justification for what they did ... to build that where almost 3,000 people died, that is an obscenity to me.[52]

Sally Regenhard, whose son was a firefighter who was killed in the attacks, and who has testified before Congress on 9/11, said that the center would be "sacrilege on sacred ground", and that "People are being accused of being anti-Muslim and racist, but this is simply a matter of sensitivity."[49]....
Former NY Fire Department Deputy Chief Jim Riches, whose son Jim was killed, said: "I don't want to have to go down to a memorial where my son died on 9/11, and look at a mosque," adding "this is all about location, location, location. It's not about religious freedom ... be sensitive to the families."[63] Michael Burke, whose brother died, wrote: "Freedom of religion or expression and private property rights are not the issues.... Decency is; right and wrong is... [M]any believe that their "rights" supersede all other considerations, like what is respectful, considerate, and decent. A mosque ... steps from Ground Zero in a building damaged in the attacks is ... astoundingly insensitive".[66]

C. Lee Hanson, whose son, daughter-in-law, and baby granddaughter were killed, felt that building a tribute to Islam so close to the World Trade Center site would be insensitive: "The pain never goes away. When I look over there and I see a mosque, it's going to hurt. Build it someplace else."[66]
....Rosemary Cain, whose son was killed, called the project a "slap in the face", and said "I think it's despicable. That's sacred ground", and "I don't want a mosque on my son's grave".[63][68]
Nancy Nee, whose brother was killed, said: "It's almost like a trophy. The whole thing just reeks of arrogance at this point."[69]

Evelyn Pettigano, who lost a sister, said: "I don't like it. I'm not prejudiced.... It's too close to the area where our family members were murdered."[70]
Dov Shefi, whose son Haggai was killed, said: "the establishment of a mosque in this place ... is like bringing a pig into the Holy Temple. It is inconceivable that in all the city of New York, this site was specifically chosen."[71]
Cindy McGinty, whose husband was killed, said she hoped that officials would keep an eye on the funding source for the mosque, adding: "Why did they pick this spot? Why aren't they being more sensitive? I don't trust it."[72]...

Rosaleen Tallon-DaRos, whose brother died, urged that the mosque not be put on that site, as did Tim Brown, a New York City firefighter who survived the attack.[73] He said: "The families lost their loved ones to terrorists, Islamic, Muslim terrorists who do not believe in religious freedom."[74]
Maureen Basnicki, a Canadian whose husband Ken died, questioned the message of the mosque and said that "this all adds hurt and insult to our injuries."[75]

Muslims

The building of the mosque near Ground Zero has been criticized by some Muslims.

The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community does not directly oppose the building of a mosque near ground zero but views that the sentiments of non-Muslims should not be unduly hurt. They state that there are other places where mosques can be built and they do not see why that particular location has been chosen.[76] The head of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, Mirza Masroor Ahmad in London, stated that:
If a mosque is built at the proposed site, then the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community would like to see churches, synagogues, Hindu places of worship and places of worship of all other religions also built near Ground Zero. That would be a good example of how from an act of evil and terror has emerged unity and peace.[76][77]

Muslim neoconservative[78] journalist Stephen Schwartz, Executive Director of the non-profit Center for Islamic Pluralism, said that building the mosque two blocks from Ground Zero is inconsistent with the Sufi philosophy of simplicity of faith and sensitivity towards others and disregards the security of American Muslims.[4] He also criticized what he termed Rauf's radical and suspect associations.[79]

Another founding member of the Center for Islamic Pluralism, Zuhdi Jasser, who is also the founder of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, a group of Muslim professionals in the Phoenix Valley of Arizona, strongly opposed the mosque, saying:
For us, a mosque was always a place to pray...not a way to make an ostentatious architectural statement. Ground Zero shouldn't be about promoting Islam. It's the place where war was declared on us as Americans."[4]
He in addition said: American freedom of religion is a right, but … it is not right to make one's religion a global political statement with a towering Islamic edifice that casts a shadow over the memorials of Ground Zero. … Islamists in 'moderate' disguise are still Islamists. In their own more subtle ways, the WTC mosque organizers end up serving the same aims (as) separatist and supremacist wings of political Islam. [80]

Neda Bolourchi, a Muslim whose mother died in 9/11, said: "I fear it would become a symbol of victory for militant Muslims around the world."[81]

Authors Raheel Raza and Tarek Fatah, board members of the Muslim Canadian Congress, said: New York currently boasts at least 30 mosques so it's not as if there is pressing need to find space for worshipers. [W]e Muslims know ... [this] mosque is meant to be a deliberate provocation to thumb our noses at the infidel. The proposal has been made in bad faith, ... as Fitna, meaning "mischief-making" that is clearly forbidden in the Koran.... As Muslims we are dismayed that our co-religionists have such little consideration for their fellow citizens, and wish to rub salt in their wounds and pretend they are applying a balm to sooth the pain.[82]

Akbar Ahmed, Ibn Khaldun Chair of Islamic Studies at American University, while noting that blaming all Muslims for 9/11 was "ridiculous", said:
I don't think the Muslim leadership has fully appreciated the impact of 9/11 on America. They assume Americans have forgotten 9/11 and even, in a profound way, forgiven 9/11, and that has not happened. The wounds remain largely open [...] and when wounds are raw, an episode like constructing a house of worship – even one protected by the Constitution, protected by law – becomes like salt in the wounds.[83]

Abdul Rahman Al-Rashid, general manager of Al-Arabiya television, also criticized the project in a column titled "A House of Worship or a Symbol of Destruction?" in the Arab daily A-Sharq Al-Awsat, saying: Muslims do not aspire for a mosque next to the September 11 cemetery...the mosque is not an issue for Muslims, and they have not heard of it until the shouting became loud between the supporters and the objectors, which is mostly an argument between non-Muslim US citizens! [84]...

Rima Fakih, the first Muslim-American crowned Miss USA as Miss USA 2010, opposed the mosque on the grounds of it being insensitive to families of 9/11 victims, telling Inside Edition: I totally agree with President Obama with the statement on the constitutional rights of freedom of religion. [But] it shouldn't be so close to the World Trade Center. We should be more concerned with the tragedy than religion.[86]

Politicians

A number of American politicians spoke out against the Park51 project:.

Among them have been Republicans Senator John McCain (AZ, 2008 presidential nominee; "would harm relations, rather than help"); Sarah Palin (AK, 2008 vice presidential nominee; posted to microblogging site Twitter, "Ground Zero Mosque supporters: doesn't it stab you in the heart, as it does ours throughout the heartland? Peaceful Muslims, pls refudiate" (sic)); Mitt Romney (former Massachusetts governor and presidential candidate), Senator Johnny Isakson (GA; "could be totally insensitive"), Senator Olympia Snowe (Maine; "insensitive to the families"), Idaho Senators Jim Risch and Mike Crapo (not "proper"), Idaho Congressman Mike Simpson ("inappropriate and insensitive"), Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty, and North Carolina congressional candidate Ilario Pantano ("It is about ... territorial conquest. This mosque is a Martyr-Marker honoring the terrorists").[87)...

Former House Speaker Republican Newt Gingrich said: "It's not about religion and is clearly an aggressive act that is offensive."[15] Commenting on the project's name, he wrote:

"Cordoba House" is a deliberately insulting term. It refers to Cordoba, Spain – the capital of Muslim conquerors, who symbolized their victory over the Christian Spaniards by transforming a church there into the world's third-largest mosque complex... every Islamist in the world recognizes Cordoba as a symbol of Islamic conquest.[93][94]

Gingrich also decried the proposed Islamic center as a symbol of Muslim "triumphalism", and said that building the mosque near the site of the 9/11 attacks "would be like putting a Nazi sign next to the Holocaust Museum".[95] ...... .....

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