Gay Protests

[AllElseFailed]

So since "The Day of Silence" took place in our schools (April 18th) 75 students have been suspended from schools in California alone for wearing shirts with the bible verse 1 Cor. 6:9-10 "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders..." Most of the suspended students were from the Sacramento School District (Where im from) anyways we have been protesting and protesting... Most of the students were unsuspended but still not all. The reason for the suspensions the school says is that it promotes a hatred message towards homosexuals and they dont feel safe in school. While at the same time some students were found with shirts that said "Every time you see a rainbow God has gay sex", and no action was taken against them. Anyways I just wanna know what everyones opinions are on this... should teens even where shirts with these bible verses? should we just let it go and not protest? or should we keep on protesting till we get the same right they do? let me hear your thoughts!!

 

[flyingsum0]

Protesting gets you no where. People protest war all the time but that doesnt stop me from doing my job. Many of them actually like to see you protesting cause it just proves that they've gotten under your skin.

Instead, lead then to God with your actions. Spreading His Word by living His word gives glory back to Him.

 

[AllElseFailed]

Protesting gets you no where. People protest war all the time but that doesnt stop me from doing my job. Many of them actually like to see you protesting cause it just proves that they've gotten under your skin.

Instead, lead then to God with your actions. Spreading His Word by living His word gives glory back to Him.

actally in most of the protests the students were unsuspended and in some cases allowed to wear the shirts!!

 

[Solidlyhere]

Protesting . . . Do it if you wanna.

One thing about being a teenager, you get to try things, and see how you like it.
I generally support children who are attempting to find their voice.

Most of the time it's like Flyingsum0 says. The world doesn't suddenly change because a few people are making noise.


In most protests, the issue is not personal. The protest the OP discussed are people belittling other people, just for something they do.

I think this kind of thing goes against what Jesus wants: Love others.
This protest was an exercise of bigotry.
And, which of the kid's parents ordered all of those T-Shirts?
Let he who not sinned cast the first stone.

 

[AllElseFailed]

We're no longer protesting against gays its about not having the same rights they do... someone was suspended for wearing a shirt that said "Keep the lords commandments"... WHAT!?!?!

 

[Solidlyhere]

If kids don't want to be suspended, all they have to do is NOT do things on the school grounds.

 

[AllElseFailed]

If kids don't want to be suspended, all they have to do is NOT do things on the school grounds.

what?!?! your saying if the school says leave God at home we should do that just so we dont get in trouble? im sorry but your WRONG! we have the RIGHT to pronounce our faith in Christ everywhere we go and we shall into they kick every last student out!

 

[Lightbearer3]

So since "The Day of Silence" took place in our schools (April 18th) 75 students have been suspended from schools in California alone for wearing shirts with the bible verse 1 Cor. 6:9-10 "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders..." Most of the suspended students were from the Sacramento School District (Where im from) anyways we have been protesting and protesting... Most of the students were unsuspended but still not all. The reason for the suspensions the school says is that it promotes a hatred message towards homosexuals and they dont feel safe in school. While at the same time some students were found with shirts that said "Every time you see a rainbow God has gay sex", and no action was taken against them. Anyways I just wanna know what everyones opinions are on this... should teens even where shirts with these bible verses? should we just let it go and not protest? or should we keep on protesting till we get the same right they do? let me hear your thoughts!![/quote

I have a friend who is a lesbian, she knows my beliefs and where I stand on this issue. I shared the truth with her in the Love of Christ. She turned this way because of some very bad exeriences. A very close member of my family was also bi-sexual. This is what I told her:
Know matter what lifestyle you choose, I will love you. I will never reject you. However, we will all face the God and be judged for our sins if we don't repent. I lovingly told this family member how much I cared for her while reinforcing the truth to her. She has recieved Christ as her saviour since that talk.

The next bit of information is not to exalt myself. It's just how I deal with gays. I recently worked with a girl and a guy who were both invovled in this lifestyle with their partners. To one I gave a story that I had written with a repentence prayer and an incouraging note at the end. To the other I found that she didn't have money to buy her lunch so I bought it for her. These little acts of kindness show an interest in them as humans in need of a loving and forgiving saviour. Many of those in this lifestyle are there because someone that was supposed to love them, betrayed them. The lady that I worked with that is gay, her husband of 10 years raped her 5 year old daughter, this is why she turned lesbian. I held her while she cried over this reality and cried with her.

I do believe that we should have equal rights, if someone is allowed to wear shirts that have remarks on them, then Christains should have that same right, keep in mind the attitude of Christ as you do though. Being pious doesn't go over well with those who don't know Christ has their saviour.

God Bless

 

[okieray]

it is the signs of the times. we hav`nt seen any thing yet here in the U.S. ole satan is chipping away with our rights as christians. to battle we must spend more time in prayer and in the word to give us strenth to battle!

 

[therebelprophet]

It is not an intellectual argument, to be a homo or not to be a homo. It is emotional, mental, and physical, but the root is definitely SPIRITUAL.

I have dealt with this issue on an intensely personal level. My best friend (and the girl I hoped to one day marry) was seduced by a bunch of lesbians over three years ago and has been trapped in that lifestyle ever since. EVERY lesbian or homosexual male that I have EVER met was miserable, knew they weren't doing right, but surrendered to it because they felt trapped and they felt like they could never go back to being straight again.

Protesting them will not do any good. You will play right into the devil's hands. I pity the homosexual because society tells them that they need to accept that virulent lifestyle as normal and as "who they are" and the church either points fingers and tells them that they're going to hell or takes the same stance as the rest of society in an effort to keep from being persecuted (and/or sued).

If you want to see change then PRAY, FAST, and tap into the power of God and the love of Christ. This is the only way to defeat the forces of darkness that are behind this sin.

 

[KleinerApfel]

Rebelprophet, great post, very Christlike attitude to the issue.

 

[Brother Jason]

It doesn't take a very spiritual person to see through this tolerance movement. We must tolerate the gays, we must tolerate the muslims, the world now believes that they must tolerate anything but a Christian. I'm not advocating protests or hating them, they are confused people, but we gotta remember where all this stuff if coming from, that old serpent himself. We can only pray and show them love, not acceptance of their sin, but show them we care what happens to them.

 

[New_Wineskin]

Anyways I just wanna know what everyones opinions are on this... should teens even where shirts with these bible verses? should we just let it go and not protest? or should we keep on protesting till we get the same right they do? let me hear your thoughts!!

I would say that , if they want to where shirts with parts of the Scriptures , myabe they could have those that promote salvation ( the Gospel ) instead of damnation and the Law . Either way , I would suggest that they ask the Lord about it .

 

[Lightbearer3]

How much did God tolerate while we were yet in our sins? How much grace was given to us? How many of us were caught up in lying, cheating, aldultry, fornication, stealing, using drugs, drinking, etc. etc. The sins of a gay person requires no more of the blood of Jesus than it did to cleanse you or me. Christ died for the ungodly, period.

Do we think others will turn away from sin towards Christ with Bible thumping?

We can stand up for our rights and against ungodliness without a haughty spirit. The Holy Spirit convicts and draws a person to repentance.

The joy, peace and love in our lives should draw others to want to know Christ, too see something in us that they are missing. If they can't see the difference in us, then it is us that needs to change, Lord help us all.

Before this topic was posted yesterday, I went to Godtube and signed a petition against the "thought law". Which basically is a law that says Pastors can't speak from the pulpit about various topics, of which one is homosexuality. If this law is passed Pastors can be fined or arrested for teaching the truth. I stand by the word of God and do not bend it to suit myself or others; but the same grace I desire to receive, do I deny that it exist for others because I think their sins are greater than mine while I walked without God in my life?

We can pray for the lost no matter what is going on in their lives. When there is an opportunity to show kindness wouldn't that be a better wittness than shoving the word down there throats? We can unite legally to stop laws from passing, our personal wittness should be love since God is love. Can't we speak the truth in love? Are they not also created in the image of God? Are we not to be as wise as serpents and as gentle as doves?

 

[therebelprophet]

Rebelprophet, great post, very Christlike attitude to the issue.

As I said before, this has been an INTENSELY personal issue for me. I was put in a situation where I absolutely HAD to love the person and hate the sin or else I would have killed myself. I had to learn to separate the two. In doing that, God showed me the truth about homosexuality. It is destructive, virulent, consuming, and predatory. The spirit behind homosexuality is not content to trap just one or two people. Not at all. It preys on those who have been hurt and abused, namely, the wounded and weak in life. What did Jesus say His mission was on Earth?

"18"The Spirit of the Lord is upon me,​

because he has anointed me​

to proclaim good news to the poor.​

He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives​

and recovering of sight to the blind,​

to set at liberty those who are oppressed,​

19to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor."​

(Luke 4, emphasis mine)​

Homosexuality is one of the worst forms of oppression. I have seen it from very close proximity and I can vouch for that personally. That is the only reason I have such an attitude.

Also, last thing here, the girl who was seduced...God told me she was my wife long before this event and has persisted in His proclamation of that fact until this very minute. I wait for her as one who waits for the dawn. I know that she will come to me.

How much did God tolerate while we were yet in our sins? How much grace was given to us? How many of us were caught up in lying, cheating, aldultry, fornication, stealing, using drugs, drinking, etc. etc. The sins of a gay person requires no more of the blood of Jesus than it did to cleanse you or me. Christ died for the ungodly, period.

Do we think others will turn away from sin towards Christ with Bible thumping?

We can stand up for our rights and against ungodliness without a haughty spirit. The Holy Spirit convicts and draws a person to repentance.

The joy, peace and love in our lives should draw others to want to know Christ, too see something in us that they are missing. If they can't see the difference in us, then it is us that needs to change, Lord help us all.

Before this topic was posted yesterday, I went to Godtube and signed a petition against the "thought law". Which basically is a law that says Pastors can't speak from the pulpit about various topics, of which one is homosexuality. If this law is passed Pastors can be fined or arrested for teaching the truth. I stand by the word of God and do not bend it to suit myself or others; but the same grace I desire to receive, do I deny that it exist for others because I think their sins are greater than mine while I walked without God in my life?

We can pray for the lost no matter what is going on in their lives. When there is an opportunity to show kindness wouldn't that be a better wittness than shoving the word down there throats? We can unite legally to stop laws from passing, our personal wittness should be love since God is love. Can't we speak the truth in love? Are they not also created in the image of God? Are we not to be as wise as serpents and as gentle as doves?

Wow! You just said it girl!

That's the way to go!

 

[sebastian]

have I got this right? you guys were first protesting about gays? then you wore these T-shirts, then you got kicked out?