Where do christians believe the garden of eden was? I saw The real eve last night on tlc, and it made me ponder that question. Also for that matter, how long ago did that take place? in your opinion.
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Personally, I do not think that it was a real place, in may have been loosely based on a place that was once real, but so was middle-earth. And this loose basis has not importance to the story being told.
I have had some good arguments of the place that Eden was based on being in what is now Turkey, but again, that is not important to the meaning of the story.
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Wherever or whatever it was, or represented, it was still there for Jesus to promise the thief on the cross they would go there when they died. Luke 23:43 And he said to him, "Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise."
We tend to think of paradise as another word for heaven, but it was actually the word used in the Septuagint to translate garden of Eden. If you look in Revelation you will find God's paradise still has the tree of life in it. Rev 2:7 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who conquers I will grant to eat of the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.'
We tend to think of paradise as another word for heaven, but it was actually the word used in the Septuagint to translate garden of Eden. If you look in Revelation you will find God's paradise still has the tree of life in it. Rev 2:7 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who conquers I will grant to eat of the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.'
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Hey, Assyrian: Nice answer. But I do feel your comments are out of sync with most readers in this forum. They don't even have a slightest idea on how to respond. Why don't we all move back to OT and make that forum a little bit warmer? OT is quiet because there are fewer jokers there.
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According to the class I took on the old testament, the Garden of Eden is thought to refer to a place near the sources of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers as stated by edrogati.
It was thought to exist shortly after the creation of the world, around 5-10 thousand years ago depending on which sect you ask. I believe it was in that region that geologists have found evidence of a large flood (presumed by some to be the source of the Noah's flood story).
Of course, Eden being the source of human life with Adam and Eve propogating the species 10,000 years ago seems a bit implausible since Native Americans had already colonized Canada, the US, and south America 10-20 thousand years before that time.
It was thought to exist shortly after the creation of the world, around 5-10 thousand years ago depending on which sect you ask. I believe it was in that region that geologists have found evidence of a large flood (presumed by some to be the source of the Noah's flood story).
Of course, Eden being the source of human life with Adam and Eve propogating the species 10,000 years ago seems a bit implausible since Native Americans had already colonized Canada, the US, and south America 10-20 thousand years before that time.
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There are a number of issues with the account based on archaeological evidence in the Americas and genetic analysis (the Out of Africa concept) among other things, so I'm consistently puzzled when it comes to any remotely precise idea of when and where Adam and Eve would have lived.
That said, like the flood, the account does exist in a source upon which I draw for theology, cosmology and history, among other things. Yes there are other sources for each, often saying something quite different and that presents a major challenge to me. However, the belief system that I have chosen for my own looks to the Bible for much, and as such I will rely on it in conjunction with what the Creator has left us to look at in the natural world.
So, the Garden of Eden, according to the Bible, is in the north of the Middle East and it existed prior to the emergence of Homo Sapiens, also according to the Bible. From there it gets fuzzy.
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I keep forgetting that science changes so often it's hard to answer a post that's more than --- say --- six months old.*looks at OP post date"
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You might have a point there AV... That is if this thread had anything to do with science at all... This was about literal interpretation theology.
So why did it take six years for literal interpretation holders to answer this question since they pride themselves on changing so little?
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This has nothing to do with science and you know it. It was a question regarding personal opinion on a Biblical account. If I ever thought that you wanted to be taken seriously, I no longer do so.
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Yes, I do have a point.
It doesn't have to have anything to do with science. All it has to have is a shelf-life beyond six months, and those who are accustomed to changing with the weather will shelve it and have nothing to do with it anymore; no matter what the question is.
On the other hand, true doctrine never dies or changes. It's as fresh today as it was when it was first written.
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