Garbage, Recycling, Compost: Which Bin Do Calendars Go To?

[Humble Penny]

There are days in Jesus life that are not accounted for. So it's evidently not a documentary. Somebody compiled the records and decided what to include and who's point a view a story is from. Isn't all editing the creation of a fictional story? You only include what you want to include from one point of view?

What kind of simple reasoning is this? Do you have every single part of your life documented and accounted for? Do kings and governments account for every single detail and thought of their lives in the official archives?

Moreover have you ever considered exactly how Moses could have compiled his histories seeing that no king of the Hebrews had existed from Adam to his days? And have you even thought about how Ezra was able to expound the Law of Moses when it was destroyed and burned in the Temple?

And above all this is if you want to learn about the history of the Hebrews would you actually consult Buddhists, Italians, or Spaniards?! Or would you apply common sense and consult their Scriptures which speak about them?

Maybe if I want to learn about you I should consult stones and rocks instead talking with you directly?

Brother...I'm sure you're not a simpleton...or at least I hope you're not...please apply some common sense...

 

[Humble Penny]

There are days in Jesus life that are not accounted for. So it's evidently not a documentary. Somebody compiled the records and decided what to include and who's point a view a story is from. Isn't all editing the creation of a fictional story? You only include what you want to include from one point of view?

Anyways if you're talking about confirming the histories of the Hebrews and the narratives in the Bible to be true you only need to look at the claims and corroborate them with the histories of other people they interacted with.

To confirm creation let's look at the first ten words of Genesis 1:1:

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."

There are three key things God created here:

1. Time (In the beginning
2. Space (God created the heavens)
3. Matter (and the earth)

Now we experience time, and when we look up and around us we see space and the heavens, and when we look at the dirt of the ground we see the earth. In short we see all the things Moses writes of God creating. On Saturday other languages such as the Spanish and Italian preserve the Hebrew Shabbat in their transliterations sabdao and sabato. And in academia we use phrase, "I'm taking a sabbatical" to denote a period of rest and repose.

So, when it is day we see the light and the Sun, and when it is night we see the Moon and the stars. Tell me what is not true about this? The word of God has stayed true. And when you look at the antagonism a majority of Jews still have towards Yeshua...this only validate Him as a historical figure. For it would make no sense to have bitterness and hatred towards someone who does not exist as a historical figure. And consider that the Jews only have Israel today because if the promise God made to them through the prophets and Moses.

Tsk...I don't know how this isnt apparent to you? The existence of the Jews today depends on their ancestors in the Bible to be real.

 

[SkyWriting]

What kind of simple reasoning is this? Do you have every single part of your life documented and accounted for? Do kings and governments account for every single detail and thought of their lives in the official archives?

Moreover have you ever considered exactly how Moses could have compiled his histories seeing that no king of the Hebrews had existed from Adam to his days? And have you even thought about how Ezra was able to expound the Law of Moses when it was destroyed and burned in the Temple?

And above all this is if you want to learn about the history of the Hebrews would you actually consult Buddhists, Italians, or Spaniards?! Or would you apply common sense and consult their Scriptures which speak about them?

Maybe if I want to learn about you I should consult stones and rocks instead talking with you directly?

Brother...I'm sure you're not a simpleton...or at least I hope you're not...please apply some common sense...

Witnesses don't tell the truth even when they think they are.
Memory is highly influenced by emotion and personal bias.
And especially influenced by environment.

Let me give an example. A test group is wired to brain wave monitoring equipment.
The group is given a taste of wine and asked for opinions.
Next after the $10 bottle they sample a $20 bottle.
Next a $30 bottle and up to $200. (Small samples)

They all notice the better taste and the equipment measures brain activity
that confirms what they are saying about the best quality compared to the
lowest quality. The expensive wine is far superior and worth every penny
and science backs that they are telling the truth.

But procedure confirms that it's all the same wine.

So which common sense should I apply? Witnesses to the taste or witnesses to the process?

 

[Humble Penny]

Witnesses don't tell the truth even when they think they are.
Memory is highly influenced by emotion and personal bias.
And especially influenced by environment.

Let me give an example. A test group is wired to brain wave monitoring equipment.
The group is given a taste of wine and asked for opinions.
Next after the $10 bottle they sample a $20 bottle.
Next a $30 bottle and up to $200. (Small samples)

They all notice the better taste and the equipment measures brain activity
that confirms what they are saying about the best quality compared to the
lowest quality. The expensive wine is far superior and worth every penny
and science backs that they are telling the truth.

But procedure confirms that it's all the same wine.

So which common sense should I apply? Witnesses to the taste or witnesses to the process?

This is stupid...you don't collect history in this way nor do you write about it in such a way. You perform inquiries by first consulting official archives, then you get secondary sources, you then compare and contrast their stories against another and see where they agree and don't. And if you want to be extra sure you then go to their neighbors to check knowledge the stories you gained. In this case the written word is best in all cases with recorded dates and times so you develop a chronological account

The histories of the Hebrews have been confirmed by six world empires.

 

[SkyWriting]

Anyways if you're talking about confirming the histories of the Hebrews and the narratives in the Bible to be true you only need to look at the claims and corroborate them with the histories of other people they interacted with.

To confirm creation let's look at the first ten words of Genesis 1:1:

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."

There are three key things God created here:

1. Time (In the beginning
2. Space (God created the heavens)
3. Matter (and the earth)

Now we experience time, and when we look up and around us we see space and the heavens, and when we look at the dirt of the ground we see the earth. In short we see all the things Moses writes of God creating. On Saturday other languages such as the Spanish and Italian preserve the Hebrew Shabbat in their transliterations sabdao and sabato. And in academia we use phrase, "I'm taking a sabbatical" to denote a period of rest and repose.

So, when it is day we see the light and the Sun, and when it is night we see the Moon and the stars. Tell me what is not true about this? The word of God has stayed true. And when you look at the antagonism a majority of Jews still have towards Yeshua...this only validate Him as a historical figure. For it would make no sense to have bitterness and hatred towards someone who does not exist as a historical figure. And consider that the Jews only have Israel today because if the promise God made to them through the prophets and Moses.

Tsk...I don't know how this isnt apparent to you? The existence of the Jews today depends on their ancestors in the Bible to be real.

I'm not sure.

Genesis 1

• in the beginning - God started creation.
• the first day - light was created.
• the second day - the sky was created.
• the third day - dry land, seas, plants and trees were created.
• the fourth day - the Sun, Moon and stars were created.
• the fifth day - creatures that live in the sea and creatures that fly were created.

So "Common sense" says that days are a result of the earth and the Sun.

So how does light and "days" show up as real before the sun on day four?

Your rules - "Common sense" says what?

 

[Humble Penny]

I'm not sure.

Genesis 1

• in the beginning - God started creation.
• the first day - light was created.
• the second day - the sky was created.
• the third day - dry land, seas, plants and trees were created.
• the fourth day - the Sun, Moon and stars were created.
• the fifth day - creatures that live in the sea and creatures that fly were created.

So "Common sense" says that days are a result of the earth and the Sun.

So how does light and "days" show up as real before the sun on day four?

Your rules - "Common sense" says what?

If your logic is applied then this means God light comes from the Sun...but this is ridiculous because God is the Creator of the lights of heaven...and how could God give them Light unless He Himself is Light?

Have you ever pondered that we see matter because of the light forming their images? And have you considered that things which aren't material we experience through the power of the Word?

Light forms matter.
Word gives them substance.

 

[SkyWriting]

This is stupid...you don't collect history in this way nor do you write about it in such a way. You perform inquiries by first consulting official archives, then you get secondary sources, you then compare and contrast their stories against another and see where they agree and don't. And if you want to be extra sure you then go to their neighbors to check knowledge the stories you gained. In this case the written word is best in all cases with recorded dates and times so you develop a chronological account

The histories of the Hebrews have been confirmed by six world empires.

I do hang with the stupids though. Can we at least agree that the Hebrews have not always been the winners?

 

[Humble Penny]

I do hang with the stupids though. Can we at least agree that the Hebrews have not always been the winners?

Guess that means you should stop worrying about the truth of history and give up on being a believer. Why waste your time serving and believing in a fiction? You're wasting your brain power and life energy bothering even being on this site discussing the things of a God you don't ultimately believe in.

 

[Humble Penny]

I do hang with the stupids though. Can we at least agree that the Hebrews have not always been the winners?

But since you want to use this popular quote let's address it:

"The Victor when the dust settles is the Word of God. Therefore God writes the history because He always comes out the Victor in the end."

If you ponder this carefully then you'll understand why the Bible has outlasted the rise and fall of the worlds six greatest words empires, along with every lesser kingdom. A regular book written by mere men doesn't come close to withstanding that heavy of a beating.

"History is written by God."

 

[SkyWriting]

If your logic is applied then this means God light comes from the Sun...but this is ridiculous because God is the Creator of the lights of heaven...and how could God give them Light unless He Himself is Light?

Have you ever pondered that we see matter because of the light forming their images? And have you considered that things which aren't material we experience through the power of the Word?

Light forms matter.
Word gives them substance.

According the scriptures, the scriptures are not even worth mentioning.

2 Corinthians 3:3
And you show that you are a letter from Christ delivered by us, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.


Romans 1:20
For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.

Romans 1:19
For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them.

Isaiah 40:26
Lift up your eyes on high and see: who created these? He who brings out their host by number, calling them all by name, by the greatness of his might, and because he is strong in power not one is missing.

Psalm 19:1-6
To the choirmaster. A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God, and the sky above proclaims his handiwork. Day to day pours out speech, and night to night reveals knowledge. There is no speech, nor are there words, whose voice is not heard. Their voice goes out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them he has set a tent for the sun, which comes out like a bridegroom leaving his chamber, and, like a strong man, runs its course with joy.

Psalm 8:3
When I look at your heavens, the work of your fingers, the moon and the stars, which you have set in place,

Romans 2:15
They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them

Psalm 119:90
Your faithfulness endures to all generations; you have established the earth, and it stands fast.

Psalm 104:5
He set the earth on its foundations, so that it should never be moved.

Deuteronomy 4:19
And beware lest you raise your eyes to heaven, and when you see the sun and the moon and the stars, all the host of heaven, you be drawn away and bow down to them and serve them, things that the Lord your God has allotted to all the peoples under the whole heaven.

Matthew 5:45
so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.

Psalm 90:2
Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever you had formed the earth and the world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God.

 

[Humble Penny]

According the scriptures, the scriptures are not even worth mentioning.

Romans 1:20
For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.

Romans 1:19
For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them.

Isaiah 40:26
Lift up your eyes on high and see: who created these? He who brings out their host by number, calling them all by name, by the greatness of his might, and because he is strong in power not one is missing.

Psalm 19:1-6
To the choirmaster. A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God, and the sky above proclaims his handiwork. Day to day pours out speech, and night to night reveals knowledge. There is no speech, nor are there words, whose voice is not heard. Their voice goes out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them he has set a tent for the sun, which comes out like a bridegroom leaving his chamber, and, like a strong man, runs its course with joy.

Psalm 8:3
When I look at your heavens, the work of your fingers, the moon and the stars, which you have set in place,

Romans 2:15
They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them

Psalm 119:90
Your faithfulness endures to all generations; you have established the earth, and it stands fast.

Psalm 104:5
He set the earth on its foundations, so that it should never be moved.

Deuteronomy 4:19
And beware lest you raise your eyes to heaven, and when you see the sun and the moon and the stars, all the host of heaven, you be drawn away and bow down to them and serve them, things that the Lord your God has allotted to all the peoples under the whole heaven.

Matthew 5:45
so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.

Psalm 90:2
Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever you had formed the earth and the world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God.

Before you keep quoting a book you believe to be fiction I advise you stop using it until you sort out what you believe in to be true.

 

[SkyWriting]

Guess that means you should stop worrying about the truth of history and give up on being a believer. Why waste your time serving and believing in a fiction? You're wasting your brain power and life energy bothering even being on this site discussing the things of a God you don't ultimately believe in.

I'm sorry if I poked a wound.

 

[SkyWriting]

Before you keep quoting a book you believe to be fiction I advise you stop using it until you sort out what you believe in to be true.

Way ahead of you. Way sorted.

 

[Humble Penny]

Past and future, yes.
History is a fictional account by a writer.
(Story inspired by actual events.)

Way ahead of you. Way sorted.

Yeah guess your life history must be a fictional account based off of some real event too right? Yeah you're confused... Prayers for you...

 

[Humble Penny]

Past and future, yes.
History is a fictional account by a writer.
(Story inspired by actual events.)

Don't know what happened to you along the way and with your walk with God but, what's clear is the Enemy has got you deceived badly...going to pray for you.

 

[Humble Penny]

My personal experience has been that since Christ revealed Himself to me, it has nothing to do with an intellectual pursuit. It’s direct teaching from Christ. Thank God The Father for his great Wisdom.

To be fair God has not given everyone the spirit to pursue intellectual things, but it doesn't change the fact that the minds Be has blessed in these various branches of intellect are needed to solve difficult problems we face in the many facets of our lives. At the same time we can't only be infants and babes only feeding on milk...eventually we have to grow up and eat solid food.

 

[Humble Penny]

You might want to do a little research on that. It has been about 5 years ago or so, since I knuckled down on barley research. I've forgotten a lot of what I learned. Immature barley can be popped like popcorn; but if I remember correctly this can be done in the hard dough stage. I've never done it; because the first fruits belong to YHWH; and I believe that the barley must be ripe, fore the offering is made.

Before the point where it can be popped; it's milky and disgusting; and if you tried to pop it; most of that milky mess would evaporate and leave you with a dry mess of mostly hull. Again, there is a short window here. That is why if I follow the Torah, instead of Hillel; I have honored Hag Matzot by up to a month apart from the Hillel calendar.

Let's go to scripture:

(CLV) Dt 16:6
but rather only in the place that Yahweh your Elohim shall choose to tabernacle His Name. There shall you sacrifice the passover in the evening as the sun sets, the appointed time of your going forth from Egypt.

(CLV) Dt 16:7
Then you will cook and eat in the place that Yahweh your Elohim shall choose, and you may turn around in the morning and go to your tents.

(CLV) Dt 16:8
Six days shall you eat unleavened bread, and on the seventh day, a day of restraint to Yahweh your Elohim, you shall do not occupational work at all.

(CLV) Dt 16:9
You shall count off seven weeks for yourself. From the start of the scythe in the raised grain shall you start to count off seven weeks.

(CLV) Dt 16:10
Then you will observe the festival of weeks to Yahweh your Elohim, offering a voluntary contribution from your hand which you shall give, just as Yahweh your Elohim may have blessed you.

Clearly the highlighted verse is speaking of Bikkurim. Now how could one begin Pesach; if the barley was not ready or near ready to be harvested. Again weather conditions can have dramatic effects on the time that it takes barley to mature.

Is It OK to keep Hag Matzot; and then keep Bikkurim at some other time, therefore keeping Shavuot at some other time?

I'm not trying to troll you Brother. You know how I feel about Jubilees, Enoch, and the Zadokim at Betharaba; but I'm struggling with this.

The only other thing I can think of in reagrds to this is that the Scriptures are telling us that the grains would be green still so they wouldn't be matured, but they were grown enough to be beaten out. Otherwise not sure how else you could roast the grains or beat them out.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

My personal experience has been that since Christ revealed Himself to me, it has nothing to do with an intellectual pursuit. It’s direct teaching from Christ. Thank God The Father for his great Wisdom.

Oh oh????

 

[Daniel Marsh]

I forgot what was the subject?