Garbage, Recycling, Compost: Which Bin Do Calendars Go To?

[Humble Penny]

Have you ever considered that time is inseparable from history? What would happen if you realized that you were keeping the wrong time? How would that make you feel? How would this affect your doctrines that you've either taught or heard from others? How could you know the truth as to what the true time is so you could properly keep it?

These big questions are what we've all struggled with in our walk as we came out of the world and into the body of Christ Yeshua. And it seems as we grow in our walk YHWH shows us more illusions we've been following. Afer trashing things like false tithing, Sunday worship, unclean foods, and the like wouldn't it be just as important, if not more, to trash false doctrines concerning timelines and calendars?

And after doing my work on biblical chronology I really struggled on how to make it hit home for us while remaining objective and unbiased. It was a huge struggle on how to present the views of every single faith, view, denomination, sect, etc. without leaving anyone out. But today that has changed, as you view what I share please do so with an open heart and pray deeply on this becase it will shake many people up.

To explain what I have spoken above I asked myself the question:

If Yeshua died on Abib 14 Passover and was buried on either a Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday, then what day of the week would Abib 1 begin for each of these doctrines?

After all there are only 7 Days of the Week one may begin their calendar year on. When I started out the beginning of the year on the following days of the week I observed the following:

Saturday Burial Doctrines
Calendars which begin Abib 1 on Sunday will logically have Yeshua buried on Saturday Abib 14.

• 1st Month of Abib
• 01 02 03 04 05 06 07
• 01 02 03 04 05 06 07
• 08 09 10 11 12 13 14
• 15 16 17 18 19 20 21
• 22 23 24 25 26 27 28
• 29 30_______________

Sunday Burial Doctrines
Calendars which begin Abib 1 on Monday will logically have Yeshua buried on Sunday Abib 14.

• 1st Month of Abib
• 01 02 03 04 05 06 07
• ___01 02 03 04 05 06
• 07 08 09 10 11 12 13
• 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
• 21 22 23 24 25 26 27
• 28 29 30____________

Monday Burial Doctrines
Calendars which begin Abib 1 on Tuesday will logically have Yeshua buried on Monday Abib 14.

• 1st Month of Abib
• 01 02 03 04 05 06 07
• ______01 02 03 04 05
• 06 07 08 09 10 11 12
• 13 14 15 16 17 18 19
• 20 21 22 23 24 25 26
• 27 28 29 30_________

Tuesday Burial Doctrines
Calendars which begin Abib 1 on Wednesday will logically have Yeshua buried on Tuesday Abib 14.

• 1st Month of Abib
• 01 02 03 04 05 06 07
• _________01 02 03 04
• 05 06 07 08 09 10 11
• 12 13 14 15 16 17 18
• 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
• 26 27 28 29 30______

Wednesday Burial Doctrines
Calendars which begin Abib 1 on Thursday will logically have Yeshua buried on Wednesday Abib 14.

• 1st Month of Abib
• 01 02 03 04 05 06 07
• ____________01 02 03
• 04 05 06 07 08 09 10
• 11 12 13 14 15 16 17
• 18 19 20 21 22 23 24
• 25 26 27 28 29 30___

Thursday Burial Doctrines
Calendars which begin Abib 1 on Friday will logically have Yeshua buried on Thursday Abib 14.

• 1st Month of Abib
• 01 02 03 04 05 06 07
• _______________01 02
• 03 04 05 06 07 08 09
• 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
• 17 18 19 20 21 22 23
• 24 25 26 27 28 29 30

Friday Burial Doctrines
Calendars which begin Abib 1 on Saturday will logically have Yeshua buried on Friday Abib 14.

• 1st Month of Abib
• 01 02 03 04 05 06 07
• __________________01
• 02 03 04 05 06 07 08
• 09 10 11 12 13 14 15
• 16 17 18 19 20 21 22
• 23 24 25 26 27 28 29
• 30__________________

So with these simple and powerful observations I concluded it doesn't matter what calendar system or mode of counting you use. You will by default choose one of the seven options I laid out above to remain logically consistent with your own doctrine.

From here I asked myself two final questions:

1. What day of the week did God create the luminaries in Genesis 1:1-2:3?
2. What day of the week did the Qumran Community begin their calendar year in the Dead Sea Scrolls Mishmarot A (4Q320)?

The answers were undeniable:

1. God created the luminaries on the 4th Day/Wednesday.
2. The Qumran Community began their calendar year on the 4th Day/Wednesday.

If we recall our basic geometry lesson on right triangles we learned the following formula:

a² + b² = c²

This formula tells us that if you know the angles for two sides of a right triangle then you know the angle for the third side will be the sum of the first two sides.

In closing since we know that God created the luminaries on the 4th Day/Wednesday and the Qumran Community began their calendar year on the 4th Day/Wednesday then we know that out of all seven possible start dates for Abib 1: the Tuesday Burial Doctrines are the only ones which align with our first two documents.

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Calendar Year Begins with new plant life in the Spring
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"Then God said, “Let the waters below the heavens be gathered into one place, and let the dry land appear”; and it was so. God called the dry land earth, and the gathering of the waters He called seas; and God saw that it was good. Then God said, “Let the earth sprout vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit after their kind with seed in them”; and it was so. The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit with seed in them, after their kind; and God saw that it was good. There was evening and there was morning, a third day."
Genesis 1:9‭-‬13 NASB1995

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Calendar Year Begins on the 4th Day/Wednesday
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"Then God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years; and let them be for lights in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth”; and it was so. God made the two great lights, the greater light to govern the day, and the lesser light to govern the night; He made the stars also. God placed them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth, and to govern the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness; and God saw that it was good. There was evening and there was morning, a fourth day."
Genesis 1:14‭-‬19 NASB1995

This is as simple as the childs game of matcing the tiles of pictures by placing elephants with elphants, dogs with dogs, etc. In short if the calendar you're using doesn't meet all four of the criteria below then it is false:

1. Does it begin in the spring?
2. Does it begin on the 4th Day/Wednesday?
3. Does it place the Sun as the leader of the year?
4. Is it supported by Genesis 1:1-2:3 and the Dead Sea Scrolls Mishmarot A (4Q320)?

 

[Daniel Marsh]

huh

 

[SkyWriting]

Have you ever considered that time is inseparable from history?

Past and future, yes.
History is a fictional account by a writer.
(Story inspired by actual events.)

 

[lsume]

Have you ever considered that time is inseparable from history? What would happen if you realized that you were keeping the wrong time? How would that make you feel? How would this affect your doctrines that you've either taught or heard from others? How could you know the truth as to what the true time is so you could properly keep it?

These big questions are what we've all struggled with in our walk as we came out of the world and into the body of Christ Yeshua. And it seems as we grow in our walk YHWH shows us more illusions we've been following. Afer trashing things like false tithing, Sunday worship, unclean foods, and the like wouldn't it be just as important, if not more, to trash false doctrines concerning timelines and calendars?

And after doing my work on biblical chronology I really struggled on how to make it hit home for us while remaining objective and unbiased. It was a huge struggle on how to present the views of every single faith, view, denomination, sect, etc. without leaving anyone out. But today that has changed, as you view what I share please do so with an open heart and pray deeply on this becase it will shake many people up.

To explain what I have spoken above I asked myself the question:

If Yeshua died on Abib 14 Passover and was buried on either a Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday, then what day of the week would Abib 1 begin for each of these doctrines?

After all there are only 7 Days of the Week one may begin their calendar year on. When I started out the beginning of the year on the following days of the week I observed the following:

Saturday Burial Doctrines
Calendars which begin Abib 1 on Sunday will logically have Yeshua buried on Saturday Abib 14.

• 1st Month of Abib
• 01 02 03 04 05 06 07
• 01 02 03 04 05 06 07
• 08 09 10 11 12 13 14
• 15 16 17 18 19 20 21
• 22 23 24 25 26 27 28
• 29 30_______________

Sunday Burial Doctrines
Calendars which begin Abib 1 on Monday will logically have Yeshua buried on Sunday Abib 14.

• 1st Month of Abib
• 01 02 03 04 05 06 07
• ___01 02 03 04 05 06
• 07 08 09 10 11 12 13
• 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
• 21 22 23 24 25 26 27
• 28 29 30____________

Monday Burial Doctrines
Calendars which begin Abib 1 on Tuesday will logically have Yeshua buried on Monday Abib 14.

• 1st Month of Abib
• 01 02 03 04 05 06 07
• ______01 02 03 04 05
• 06 07 08 09 10 11 12
• 13 14 15 16 17 18 19
• 20 21 22 23 24 25 26
• 27 28 29 30_________

Tuesday Burial Doctrines
Calendars which begin Abib 1 on Wednesday will logically have Yeshua buried on Tuesday Abib 14.

• 1st Month of Abib
• 01 02 03 04 05 06 07
• _________01 02 03 04
• 05 06 07 08 09 10 11
• 12 13 14 15 16 17 18
• 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
• 26 27 28 29 30______

Wednesday Burial Doctrines
Calendars which begin Abib 1 on Thursday will logically have Yeshua buried on Wednesday Abib 14.

• 1st Month of Abib
• 01 02 03 04 05 06 07
• ____________01 02 03
• 04 05 06 07 08 09 10
• 11 12 13 14 15 16 17
• 18 19 20 21 22 23 24
• 25 26 27 28 29 30___

Thursday Burial Doctrines
Calendars which begin Abib 1 on Friday will logically have Yeshua buried on Thursday Abib 14.

• 1st Month of Abib
• 01 02 03 04 05 06 07
• _______________01 02
• 03 04 05 06 07 08 09
• 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
• 17 18 19 20 21 22 23
• 24 25 26 27 28 29 30

Friday Burial Doctrines
Calendars which begin Abib 1 on Saturday will logically have Yeshua buried on Friday Abib 14.

• 1st Month of Abib
• 01 02 03 04 05 06 07
• __________________01
• 02 03 04 05 06 07 08
• 09 10 11 12 13 14 15
• 16 17 18 19 20 21 22
• 23 24 25 26 27 28 29
• 30__________________

So with these simple and powerful observations I concluded it doesn't matter what calendar system or mode of counting you use. You will by default choose one of the seven options I laid out above to remain logically consistent with your own doctrine.

From here I asked myself two final questions:

1. What day of the week did God create the luminaries in Genesis 1:1-2:3?
2. What day of the week did the Qumran Community begin their calendar year in the Dead Sea Scrolls Mishmarot A (4Q320)?

The answers were undeniable:

1. God created the luminaries on the 4th Day/Wednesday.
2. The Qumran Community began their calendar year on the 4th Day/Wednesday.

If we recall our basic geometry lesson on right triangles we learned the following formula:

a² + b² = c²

This formula tells us that if you know the angles for two sides of a right triangle then you know the angle for the third side will be the sum of the first two sides.

In closing since we know that God created the luminaries on the 4th Day/Wednesday and the Qumran Community began their calendar year on the 4th Day/Wednesday then we know that out of all seven possible start dates for Abib 1: the Tuesday Burial Doctrines are the only ones which align with our first two documents.

=============================================
Calendar Year Begins with new plant life in the Spring
=============================================
"Then God said, “Let the waters below the heavens be gathered into one place, and let the dry land appear”; and it was so. God called the dry land earth, and the gathering of the waters He called seas; and God saw that it was good. Then God said, “Let the earth sprout vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit after their kind with seed in them”; and it was so. The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit with seed in them, after their kind; and God saw that it was good. There was evening and there was morning, a third day."
Genesis 1:9‭-‬13 NASB1995

=============================================
Calendar Year Begins on the 4th Day/Wednesday
=============================================
"Then God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years; and let them be for lights in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth”; and it was so. God made the two great lights, the greater light to govern the day, and the lesser light to govern the night; He made the stars also. God placed them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth, and to govern the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness; and God saw that it was good. There was evening and there was morning, a fourth day."
Genesis 1:14‭-‬19 NASB1995
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This is as simple as the childs game of matcing the tiles of pictures by placing elephants with elphants, dogs with dogs, etc. In short if the calendar you're using doesn't meet all four of the criteria below then it is false:

1. Does it begin in the spring?
2. Does it begin on the 4th Day/Wednesday?
3. Does it place the Sun as the leader of the year?
4. Is it supported by Genesis 1:1-2:3 and the Dead Sea Scrolls Mishmarot A (4Q320)?

My personal experience has been that since Christ revealed Himself to me, it has nothing to do with an intellectual pursuit. It’s direct teaching from Christ. Thank God The Father for his great Wisdom.

 

[HARK!]

My personal experience has been that since Christ revealed Himself to me, it has nothing to do with an intellectual pursuit. It’s direct teaching from Christ. Thank God The Father for his great Wisdom.

Messiah teaches Torah.

 

[HARK!]

what day of the week would Abib 1 begin

Why is the month of Abib called Abib?

 

[Humble Penny]

Why is the month of Abib called Abib?

It's Hebrew for ” spring" and is the only name month which is not Canaanite or Babylonian in origin.

 

[Humble Penny]

Why is the month of Abib called Abib?

"On this day in the month of Spring [Abib,] you are about to go forth."
Exodus 13:4 NASB1995

If the translators were honest they'd translate Abib to "spring": and it'd be abundantly clear that the modern Jews are wrong for starting the new year in the fall. Lol so yeah the Hebrews were commanded by Moses to observe Passover in the 1st Month of spring.

 

[HARK!]

It's Hebrew for ” spring" and is the only name month which is not Canaanite or Babylonian in origin.

Here are all of the places where אביב is found in the MT.

Let's try your definition.

1.) (CLV) Ex 9:31
And the flax and the barley were smitten, for the barley was in the spring ear, and the flax was in pod;

2.) (CLV) Ex 13:4
Today you are going forth in the month of spring.

3.) (CLV) Ex 23:15
You shall observe the festival of unleavened bread; seven days shall you eat unleavened bread, just as I instructed you, at the appointed time in the month spring, for in it you went forth from Egypt, and none shall appear before Me empty-handed.

4.) (CLV) Ex 34:18
The festival of unleavened bread shall you observe seven days. You shall eat unleavened bread just was I have instructed you for the appointed time in the month of spring, for in the month of spring you came forth from Egypt.

5.) (CLV) Lv 2:14
Yet if you bring near an approach present of firstfruits to Yahweh, you shall bring near spring ears toasted by fire, groats of the new crop, as the approach present of your firstfruits.

6.) (CLV) Dt 16:1
You are to observe- the month of spring and prepare a passover to Yahweh your Elohim, for in the month of spring Yahweh your Elohim brought you forth from Egypt by night.

This definition might work for verses 2,3,4, and 6; but we could call them anything we wanted; and it still might work.

However, your definition doesn't seem to quite fit verses 1 and 5. Barley grows in the winter; and it doesn't produce ears until spring. When the flax is in the pod, and they can be toasted by fire, is at the very end of the life cycle of barley, The barley dies within days of this process beginning. It's a very narrow window; and it changes from season to season based on weather conditions. Now how does one keep Hag Matzot; if the barley has not matured? This is why I don't use the Hillel Calendar.

 

[HARK!]

"On this day in the month of Spring [Abib,] you are about to go forth."
Exodus 13:4 NASB1995

If the translators were honest they'd translate Abib to "spring": and it'd be abundantly clear that the modern Jews are wrong for starting the new year in the fall. Lol so yeah the Hebrews were commanded by Moses to observe Passover in the 1st Month of spring.

The word Spring, in English, means a season, not a month. On the Pagan calendar a month lasts for about 30 days, not about 90 days like a season.

 

[Humble Penny]

Here are all of the places where אביב is found in the MT.

Let's try your definition.

1.) (CLV) Ex 9:31
And the flax and the barley were smitten, for the barley was in the spring ear, and the flax was in pod;

2.) (CLV) Ex 13:4
Today you are going forth in the month of spring.

3.) (CLV) Ex 23:15
You shall observe the festival of unleavened bread; seven days shall you eat unleavened bread, just as I instructed you, at the appointed time in the month spring, for in it you went forth from Egypt, and none shall appear before Me empty-handed.

4.) (CLV) Ex 34:18
The festival of unleavened bread shall you observe seven days. You shall eat unleavened bread just was I have instructed you for the appointed time in the month of spring, for in the month of spring you came forth from Egypt.

5.) (CLV) Lv 2:14
Yet if you bring near an approach present of firstfruits to Yahweh, you shall bring near spring ears toasted by fire, groats of the new crop, as the approach present of your firstfruits.

6.) (CLV) Dt 16:1
You are to observe- the month of spring and prepare a passover to Yahweh your Elohim, for in the month of spring Yahweh your Elohim brought you forth from Egypt by night.

This definition might work for verses 2,3,4, and 6; but we could call them anything we wanted; and it still might work.

However, your definition doesn't seem to quite fit verses 1 and 5. Barley grows in the winter; and it doesn't produce ears until spring. When the flax is in the pod, and they can be toasted by fire, is at the very end of the life cycle of barley, The barley dies within days of this process beginning. It's a very narrow window; and it changes from season to season based on weather conditions. Now how does one keep Hag Matzot; if the barley has not matured? This is why I don't use the Hillel Calendar.

The word Spring, in English, means a season, not a month. On the Pagan calendar a month lasts for about 30 days, not about 90 days like a season.

While spring is a season of 3 Months the context would let you know that it's in the 1st Month of Spring. The phrase, "month of Spring" isn't telling you spring is 1 Month in duration, just that the month in question is in the spring season.

 

[Humble Penny]

Past and future, yes.
History is a fictional account by a writer.
(Story inspired by actual events.)

I noticed you didn't include the present, is this also fictional? And the genealogical records of Yeshua must be based on fictional accounts? You pretty much include everything up to the creation account as fictional.

Pretty odd for someone who believes in a literal God who allows fictional accounts of His Son to be written...

 

[Humble Penny]

Here are all of the places where אביב is found in the MT.

Let's try your definition.

1.) (CLV) Ex 9:31
And the flax and the barley were smitten, for the barley was in the spring ear, and the flax was in pod;

2.) (CLV) Ex 13:4
Today you are going forth in the month of spring.

3.) (CLV) Ex 23:15
You shall observe the festival of unleavened bread; seven days shall you eat unleavened bread, just as I instructed you, at the appointed time in the month spring, for in it you went forth from Egypt, and none shall appear before Me empty-handed.

4.) (CLV) Ex 34:18
The festival of unleavened bread shall you observe seven days. You shall eat unleavened bread just was I have instructed you for the appointed time in the month of spring, for in the month of spring you came forth from Egypt.

5.) (CLV) Lv 2:14
Yet if you bring near an approach present of firstfruits to Yahweh, you shall bring near spring ears toasted by fire, groats of the new crop, as the approach present of your firstfruits.

6.) (CLV) Dt 16:1
You are to observe- the month of spring and prepare a passover to Yahweh your Elohim, for in the month of spring Yahweh your Elohim brought you forth from Egypt by night.

This definition might work for verses 2,3,4, and 6; but we could call them anything we wanted; and it still might work.

However, your definition doesn't seem to quite fit verses 1 and 5. Barley grows in the winter; and it doesn't produce ears until spring. When the flax is in the pod, and they can be toasted by fire, is at the very end of the life cycle of barley, The barley dies within days of this process beginning. It's a very narrow window; and it changes from season to season based on weather conditions. Now how does one keep Hag Matzot; if the barley has not matured? This is why I don't use the Hillel Calendar.

Well I'm no farmer but, the passage in Exodus 9:31 is talking about the flax and barley being smitten because they were early grown, or "springing up"; and I would add that Moses brought the Israelites out in the spring time when the plagues we're happening so, yeah the hail was just a plague and not a sign of winter. As for Leviticus 2:14 it sounds like it's talking about corn when I look at other translations. But in both cases what's clear is that YHWH wouldn't command us to do such things if He knew they weren't going grow at their appointed times.

 

[HARK!]

Well I'm no farmer but, the passage in Exodus 9:31 is talking about the flax and barley being smitten because they were early grown, or "springing up"; and I would add that Moses brought the Israelites out in the spring time when the plagues we're happening so, yeah the hail was just a plague and not a sign of winter. As for Leviticus 2:14 it sounds like it's talking about corn when I look at other translations. But in both cases what's clear is that YHWH wouldn't command us to do such things if He knew they weren't going grow at their appointed times.

My bad, I haven't grown flax, I was mistaking the word flax to mean harvest ripe.

I've grown my own barley, about an acre at a time. I didn't do it this year; but it's beautiful as it springs up.

Here is some reference material which shows the stages of development in the ear:


Once head emergence and pollination have occurred, kernels begin to develop (Figure 11). The length of the barley kernel establishes first, followed by its width. This helps explain why thin barley developed under stress conditions is usually as long as normal grain, but is narrower.


Figure 11 shows the physical changes as a kernel develops.


Watery ripe and milk stages

The first period of kernel development, designated the “watery ripe” and “milk” stages, lasts about 10 days.


Although the kernels don’t gain much weight during this phase, it’s extremely important because it determines the number of cells that will subsequently be used for storing starch. Kernels crushed in this stage initially yield a watery substance that later becomes milky.


Soft dough stage

The “soft dough” stage is characterized by kernels with a white semi-solid consistency. This period of rapid kernel growth and starch storage usually lasts about 10 days following the milk stage.


Hard dough stage
Finally, as the kernel approaches maturity and begins rapidly losing water, its consistency becomes more solid, termed “hard dough.” This is when the kernel also loses its green color (Figure 11).

Figure 11: Kernel development: a) Watery ripe (Zadoks 71), b) late milk (Zadoks 77), c) hard dough (Zadoks 87) and d) harvest ripe (Zadoks 92).

Spring barley growth and development guide

 

[HARK!]

I'm still left with the question of how does one keep Hag Matzot; if the barley has not matured?

 

[Humble Penny]

My bad, I haven't grown flax, I was mistaking the word flax to mean hard dough.

I've grown my own barley, about an acre at a time. I didn't do it this year; but it's beautiful as it springs up.

Here is some reference material which shows the stages of development in the ear:


Once head emergence and pollination have occurred, kernels begin to develop (Figure 11). The length of the barley kernel establishes first, followed by its width. This helps explain why thin barley developed under stress conditions is usually as long as normal grain, but is narrower.


Figure 11 shows the physical changes as a kernel develops.


Watery ripe and milk stages

The first period of kernel development, designated the “watery ripe” and “milk” stages, lasts about 10 days.


Although the kernels don’t gain much weight during this phase, it’s extremely important because it determines the number of cells that will subsequently be used for storing starch. Kernels crushed in this stage initially yield a watery substance that later becomes milky.


Soft dough stage

The “soft dough” stage is characterized by kernels with a white semi-solid consistency. This period of rapid kernel growth and starch storage usually lasts about 10 days following the milk stage.


Hard dough stage
Finally, as the kernel approaches maturity and begins rapidly losing water, its consistency becomes more solid, termed “hard dough.” This is when the kernel also loses its green color (Figure 11).

Figure 11: Kernel development: a) Watery ripe (Zadoks 71), b) late milk (Zadoks 77), c) hard dough (Zadoks 87) and d) harvest ripe (Zadoks 92).

Spring barley growth and development guide

Thanks for sharing this I never knew. At least now I can picture it.

I'm still left with the question of how does one keep Hag Matzot; if the barley has not matured?

Well I think that it's not referring to mature barley since it's talking about it being early grown or sprung up. The context of Leviticus 2:14 looks like it reads the same as Exodus 9:31.

 

[Humble Penny]

I'm still left with the question of how does one keep Hag Matzot; if the barley has not matured?

Thanks for sharing this I never knew. At least now I can picture it.


Well I think that it's not referring to mature barley since it's talking about it being early grown or sprung up. The context of Leviticus 2:14 looks like it reads the same as Exodus 9:31.

I think another passage to associate with the ones you brought is the Passover Lamb. The requirement was that it be a year old, therefore it is not a mature lamb which is slaughtered: and since we know Yeshua is our first fruits He was a "1 Year old Lamb" be wise He completed a 1 Year ministry...and therefore an early first fruits or spring ear so to speak.

Just some food for thought!

 

[HARK!]

Well I think that it's not referring to mature barley since it's talking about it being early grown or sprung up. The context of Leviticus 2:14 looks like it reads the same as Exodus 9:31.

You might want to do a little research on that. It has been about 5 years ago or so, since I knuckled down on barley research. I've forgotten a lot of what I learned. Immature barley can be popped like popcorn; but if I remember correctly this can be done in the hard dough stage. I've never done it; because the first fruits belong to YHWH; and I believe that the barley must be ripe, fore the offering is made.

Before the point where it can be popped; it's milky and disgusting; and if you tried to pop it; most of that milky mess would evaporate and leave you with a dry mess of mostly hull. Again, there is a short window here. That is why if I follow the Torah, instead of Hillel; I have honored Hag Matzot by up to a month apart from the Hillel calendar.

Let's go to scripture:

(CLV) Dt 16:6
but rather only in the place that Yahweh your Elohim shall choose to tabernacle His Name. There shall you sacrifice the passover in the evening as the sun sets, the appointed time of your going forth from Egypt.

(CLV) Dt 16:7
Then you will cook and eat in the place that Yahweh your Elohim shall choose, and you may turn around in the morning and go to your tents.

(CLV) Dt 16:8
Six days shall you eat unleavened bread, and on the seventh day, a day of restraint to Yahweh your Elohim, you shall do not occupational work at all.

(CLV) Dt 16:9
You shall count off seven weeks for yourself. From the start of the scythe in the raised grain shall you start to count off seven weeks.

(CLV) Dt 16:10
Then you will observe the festival of weeks to Yahweh your Elohim, offering a voluntary contribution from your hand which you shall give, just as Yahweh your Elohim may have blessed you.

Clearly the highlighted verse is speaking of Bikkurim. Now how could one begin Pesach; if the barley was not ready or near ready to be harvested. Again weather conditions can have dramatic effects on the time that it takes barley to mature.

Is It OK to keep Hag Matzot; and then keep Bikkurim at some other time, therefore keeping Shavuot at some other time?

I'm not trying to troll you Brother. You know how I feel about Jubilees, Enoch, and the Zadokim at Betharaba; but I'm struggling with this.

 

[Humble Penny]

You might want to do a little research on that. It has been about 5 years ago or so, since I knuckled down on barley research. I've forgotten a lot of what I learned. Immature barley can be popped like popcorn; but if I remember correctly this can be done in the hard dough stage. I've never done it; because the first fruits belong to YHWH; and I believe that the barley must be ripe, fore the offering is made.

Before the point where it can be popped; it's milky and disgusting; and if you tried to pop it; most of that milky mess would evaporate and leave you with a dry mess of mostly hull. Again, there is a short window here. That is why if I follow the Torah, instead of Hillel; I have honored Hag Matzot by up to a month apart from the Hillel calendar.

Let's go to scripture:

(CLV) Dt 16:6
but rather only in the place that Yahweh your Elohim shall choose to tabernacle His Name. There shall you sacrifice the passover in the evening as the sun sets, the appointed time of your going forth from Egypt.

(CLV) Dt 16:7
Then you will cook and eat in the place that Yahweh your Elohim shall choose, and you may turn around in the morning and go to your tents.

(CLV) Dt 16:8
Six days shall you eat unleavened bread, and on the seventh day, a day of restraint to Yahweh your Elohim, you shall do not occupational work at all.

(CLV) Dt 16:9
You shall count off seven weeks for yourself. From the start of the scythe in the raised grain shall you start to count off seven weeks.

(CLV) Dt 16:10
Then you will observe the festival of weeks to Yahweh your Elohim, offering a voluntary contribution from your hand which you shall give, just as Yahweh your Elohim may have blessed you.

Clearly the highlighted verse is speaking of Bikkurim. Now how could one begin Pesach; if the barley was not ready or near ready to be harvested. Again weather conditions can have dramatic effects on the time that it takes barley to mature.

Is It OK to keep Hag Matzot; and then keep Bikkurim at some other time, therefore keeping Shavuot at some other time?

I'm not trying to troll you Brother. You know how I feel about Jubilees, Enoch, and the Zadokim at Betharaba; but I'm struggling with this.

No worries brother I know you're not trolling or doing anything of the sort. I see you truly want to get this down. Well I've reached the end of my knowledge here so, I'd direct you to this man:

Seeing that I'm not a ready scribe in the Law of Moses as Ezra and Nehemiah were I can't expound on these things for you. This is especially true since my expertise lies in biblical chronology and history. I believe that video will help you a ton though.

 

[SkyWriting]

I noticed you didn't include the present, is this also fictional? And the genealogical records of Yeshua must be based on fictional accounts? You pretty much include everything up to the creation account as fictional. Pretty odd for someone who believes in a literal God who allows fictional accounts of His Son to be written...

There are days in Jesus life that are not accounted for. So it's evidently not a documentary. Somebody compiled the records and decided what to include and who's point a view a story is from. Isn't all editing the creation of a fictional story? You only include what you want to include from one point of view?