Galliforms' Natural Enemy?

[AV1611VET]

Can you clarify this please? I don't understand what your asking.

Not until someone hones... --- okay, skip that --- not until someone answers the OP.

 

[TemperateSeaIsland]

Not until someone hones... --- okay, skip that --- not until someone answers the OP.

In what way was my answer not satisfactory?

 

[Tomk80]

With this thread, AV has reached a new high on the pointless scale.

 

[AV1611VET]

In what way was my answer not satisfactory?

I just want to know if, according to evolution, Harland Sanders would be considered a natural enemy to Galliforms, that's all.

After all, aren't Lions natural enemies of Gazelle?

And if we're all animals in the first place, wouldn't we be considered natural enemies of [whatever].

In addition, isn't it about time we evolved into something higher? And when we do, won't we be considered the subspecies?

 

[AV1611VET]

With this thread, AV has reached a new high on the pointless scale.

Don't you guys recognize your own philosophy?

 

[Tomk80]

Don't you guys recognize your own philosophy?

Still waiting to see what your point is.

 

[AV1611VET]

Still waiting to see what your point is.

The point is: I want to see if you guys will admit that humans are natural enemies of anything. Care to answer the OP?

 

[Tomk80]

The point is: I want to see if you guys will admit that humans are natural enemies of anything. Care to answer the OP?

I generally don't think in terms of 'natural enemies' in the first place.

And given that we both eat and breed those animals, I don't know whether the term 'natural enemy' would apply. I've yet to see lions breeding gazelles.

We also tend to think of cats as the natural enemies of mice and not of fish, but cats specialize. The cat of our neighbors specialized in fish and didn't hunt mice. So I personally don't put much stock in the 'natural enemy' phrase. Don't know whether it is really used anywhere other than in popular nature films.

 

[AV1611VET]

I generally don't think in terms of 'natural enemies' in the first place.

And given that we both eat and breed those animals, I don't know whether the term 'natural enemy' would apply. I've yet to see lions breeding gazelles.

We also tend to think of cats as the natural enemies of mice and not of fish, but cats specialize. The cat of our neighbors specialized in fish and didn't hunt mice. So I personally don't put much stock in the 'natural enemy' phrase. Don't know whether it is really used anywhere other than in popular nature films.

I don't care about cats, I don't care about fish, mice, or specialization. I don't care what you do or don't think in terms of.

All I'm asking is: Was Harland Sanders the natural enemy of Galliforms?

A simple YES or NO will suffice.

 

[AV1611VET]

Could I get a TE to answer this, please?

 

[TemperateSeaIsland]

I just want to know if, according to evolution, Harland Sanders would be considered a natural enemy to Galliforms, that's all.

Considering he's helped in the expansion and continuation of chickens no not really. For an individual chicken... maybe, I certainly wouldn't want to be one in one of their plants.

After all, aren't Lions natural enemies of Gazelle?

I find the use of the term "enemy" a bit strange as it seems to imply some emotive hostility. But in the sense that Lions hunt and kill Gazelle sure I'll accept they can be considered enemies.

The difference between KFC and Lions though is that KFC assists in the overall survival of Chickens. If KFC simply acted like lions and only killed the available chickens in the wild then chickens would be extinct.

And if we're all animals in the first place, wouldn't we be considered natural enemies of [whatever].

I would see us as enemies to anything that threatens our interests or is exploitable without farming/domestication. I would like it if that wasnt the case but unfortunatly that's the way thing seem to be.

In addition, isn't it about time we evolved into something higher? And when we do, won't we be considered the subspecies?

As long as the gene pool remains global thanks to transportation then there wont be any "we", the population will change together slowly over time. Besides if our scientific progress continues as it is evolution will be irrelevent when it comes to human development.

I don't care about cats, I don't care about fish, mice, or specialization. I don't care what you do or don't think in terms of.

All I'm asking is: Was Harland Sanders the natural enemy of Galliforms?

A simple YES or NO will suffice.

NO

 

[BananaSlug]

Humans are not a natural "enemy" for anything really. We are predators and we prey on other creatures but that does not imply that we are their enemies. No, Col. Sanders was not the natural enemy of the chicken.

 

[Nathan Poe]

I don't care about cats, I don't care about fish, mice, or specialization. I don't care what you do or don't think in terms of.

All I'm asking is: Was Harland Sanders the natural enemy of Galliforms?

A simple YES or NO will suffice.

No.

Now, would you like to know why? Because Harland Sanders and his KFC corporation actually breed chickens for their enterprise. They make great (and it should be mentioned, completely artificial) efforts to insure that the species does not go extinct -- something a natural predator would not do.

Furthermore, because of KFC's demands for breeding yummy chickens, there are probably more galliforms clucking around the world right now than there would be if Sanders hadn't set up shop -- an irony we can both appreciate over a bucket of wings.

So you see, AV, Harland Sanders was not a natural enemy of galliforms, as his work was neither "natural" nor the work of an "enemy."

 

[Split Rock]

The point is: I want to see if you guys will admit that humans are natural enemies of anything. Care to answer the OP?

I would say that humans are natural enemies of most species on the planet. All those species that we have not domesticated, or have not adapated to living off of our civilization. Such species are being destroyed by us and by our activities.

Some examples of species for which humans are natural enemies are:
otters, ducks, whales, tucans, polar bears, foxes, tigers, lions, gazelles, elephants.

Some examples of species for which humans are not natural enemies of:
mice, rats, rabbits, squirrels, roaches, ants, termites, cows, goats, pigs, chickens.

As far as the O.P. is concerned, No.

 

[dlamberth]

I just want to know if, according to evolution, Harland Sanders would be considered a natural enemy to Galliforms, that's all.

After all, aren't Lions natural enemies of Gazelle?

And if we're all animals in the first place, wouldn't we be considered natural enemies of [whatever].

It's Humanity that's a natural enemy to Galliforms. When you point towards a single individual you are not asking about the species.. The OP is confusing because it does not ask the question your really trying to get at. Now, finally, your clarifying your question in the OP and that helps a lot. Thanks.

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[ReverendDG]

I don't care about cats, I don't care about fish, mice, or specialization. I don't care what you do or don't think in terms of.

All I'm asking is: Was Harland Sanders the natural enemy of Galliforms?

A simple YES or NO will suffice.

how about NO
humanity eats chickens, they also breed them, thus they aren't enemies.

what is the point of this thread?
just you trying to assert some claim only known to yourself AV?

i think natural enemy is a poor choice of words when it come to domesticated animals. it implies we hunt chickens when we don't

 

[ReverendDG]

The point is: I want to see if you guys will admit that humans are natural enemies of anything. Care to answer the OP?

i guess men in africa might consider lions to be natural enemies if they hunt.

i don't honestly think you can box humans up into "natural enemies" with any life form.
unless say an alien species shows up and hunts us.

 

[Tomk80]

I don't care about cats, I don't care about fish, mice, or specialization. I don't care what you do or don't think in terms of.

All I'm asking is: Was Harland Sanders the natural enemy of Galliforms?

A simple YES or NO will suffice.

No.

Because of the reasons I already gave you. Again, you are not actually interested in the answer, are you? Only in rhetoric.

 

[Tomk80]

i think natural enemy is a poor choice of words when it come to domesticated animals. it implies we hunt chickens when we don't

I think natural enemy is a poor choice of words in any situation. Predators will hunt a type of prey they are specialized in, in case of lions large herbivores living in herds. If gazelle's are not there, they'll take something else. Are they then suddenly no longer the natural enemies of gazelle but have changed into the natural enemy of elephants (a recent specialization of a number of lion prides)? It's a silly term to begin with.

 

[MrGoodBytes]

It's pointless to call individual organisms "natural enemies" if no other member of its genus shows such behaviour. You could just as easily say that the Tsavo maneaters were natural enemies of humans even though no other lion is.