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<blockquote data-quote="AnonymousForNow" data-source="post: 75396657" data-attributes="member: 430453"><p>I'm confused what you mean when you say that the "moral" laws are still valid because they deal with "morality"--that's saying "it is 'cause it is" and you're not explaining "why." I've heard that twice from people now, but I don't understand where they're coming with that from. I also don't see where Jesus mentions that marriage is "only" to be between a guy and girl, so if you could please point me to where that's said. If you could tell me something that I haven't seen, then I would dig into it with all the mental strength I have--but everything that you're saying, it's not new to me--I just have not seen in the Bible where Jesus stood up and said "Homosexuality is not of my Father, it is a sin." You can't take the words of man as the word of God--we wouldn't "have" a New Testament if that were the case. I'm trying to get the full picture--I'm trying to figure out what's "True" and "False" rather than what "X" person said and "Y" person said.</p><p></p><p>Wayfaring--I've been thinking for months and months about this, and I'm not "neglecting" to look at it from another perspective. This topic hasn't left my mind for more days and weeks than I could count, and I can assure you that I've done a lot of research and thinking for both sides and this has caused me so much agony that I almost wish it "were" a curse so I could have "some" justification for my crying. No--natural inclination itself is not justification, and I'm not saying it is--but I don't see how God could say "You, the majority (straight people), are allowed to have as close of connections as these--but you, no you have to go without that kind of love."</p><p></p><p>I did not mean to come off as lumping you in with that group--I meant that many people "in your place" have done that--I couldn't even dream of someone like you doing that, you're too nice to... I wasn't saying you were doing those things, it's just, when I mention this stuff to people, they change--it's like the word "gay" causes them to go into this primal instinct and they snap on me like an owner yelling at his dog... You're probably too loving of a person to comprehend just how Christians could do that, but I swear that it happens all too often. My quest for knowledge about what God says about homosexuality won't end when we stop talking about it to each other--it could trouble me for the rest of my life for all I know, for either side--but, Wayfaring, could you let me continue my talks with pastors and scholars and counselors, and let us resume talking about why we came here in the first place...? I promise, I'm not just "pushing this aside"--I don't know if I'll "ever" be at-peace about this dilemma, because it's just so complicated...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AnonymousForNow, post: 75396657, member: 430453"] I'm confused what you mean when you say that the "moral" laws are still valid because they deal with "morality"--that's saying "it is 'cause it is" and you're not explaining "why." I've heard that twice from people now, but I don't understand where they're coming with that from. I also don't see where Jesus mentions that marriage is "only" to be between a guy and girl, so if you could please point me to where that's said. If you could tell me something that I haven't seen, then I would dig into it with all the mental strength I have--but everything that you're saying, it's not new to me--I just have not seen in the Bible where Jesus stood up and said "Homosexuality is not of my Father, it is a sin." You can't take the words of man as the word of God--we wouldn't "have" a New Testament if that were the case. I'm trying to get the full picture--I'm trying to figure out what's "True" and "False" rather than what "X" person said and "Y" person said. Wayfaring--I've been thinking for months and months about this, and I'm not "neglecting" to look at it from another perspective. This topic hasn't left my mind for more days and weeks than I could count, and I can assure you that I've done a lot of research and thinking for both sides and this has caused me so much agony that I almost wish it "were" a curse so I could have "some" justification for my crying. No--natural inclination itself is not justification, and I'm not saying it is--but I don't see how God could say "You, the majority (straight people), are allowed to have as close of connections as these--but you, no you have to go without that kind of love." I did not mean to come off as lumping you in with that group--I meant that many people "in your place" have done that--I couldn't even dream of someone like you doing that, you're too nice to... I wasn't saying you were doing those things, it's just, when I mention this stuff to people, they change--it's like the word "gay" causes them to go into this primal instinct and they snap on me like an owner yelling at his dog... You're probably too loving of a person to comprehend just how Christians could do that, but I swear that it happens all too often. My quest for knowledge about what God says about homosexuality won't end when we stop talking about it to each other--it could trouble me for the rest of my life for all I know, for either side--but, Wayfaring, could you let me continue my talks with pastors and scholars and counselors, and let us resume talking about why we came here in the first place...? I promise, I'm not just "pushing this aside"--I don't know if I'll "ever" be at-peace about this dilemma, because it's just so complicated... [/QUOTE]
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