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BabyLutheran

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Our new head pastor came from another congregation in Florida. He brought with him some new ideas, that's for sure.

One thing we did for about the past 6 weeks was to bring in bottles of Manischewitz wine and place them on a table in the sanctuary, for use in the next liturgical year for communion.

We blessed/consecrated the wine yesterday since it was the last Sunday of the church year.

Pastor said he had a bunch of the local Lutheran pastors come to his installation service, and many of them asked if the wine was "to go! " lol
 

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I also posted this to give you guys an idea to maybe do this as well.

I know many of you have said you are in small congregations and it is very expensive to have communion at every service. I was thinking this might be a way to get communion wine without the church directly having to pay for it, so you guys can take communion more often!
 
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I also posted this to give you guys an idea to maybe do this as well.

I know many of you have said you are in small congregations and it is very expensive to have communion at every service. I was thinking this might be a way to get communion wine without the church directly having to pay for it, so you guys can take communion more often!
I went to a liquor store once and asked for a communion wine.
Some people were visiting the cemetary for a 6-month anniversary and wanted to do communion.

The Asian owner got visibly excited and brought me to the shelf that contained Concordia wine and he was very pleased when I bought it.

In his mind, he probably thought this consecrarted his liquor store. :D:)
 
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Haha! Our church does the non-alcoholic wine thing. A few months ago, we visited my mother-in-law's church, that has real wine. Without even thinking, during communion, I'm quite sure I made one heck of a funny face when I tasted the wine! I felt a little embarrassed. I told the pastor after the service and boy, did she laugh at me!

Just out of curiosity, what kind of wine is communion wine? I mean, is there a certain kind you need to get? I've never really thought about it before.
 
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We use cheap Manischewitz, I believe it is pretty typical.

We use Mogen David.
In my old Congregation we used St. Augustine, made by Augustinian Monks North of Toronto (pretty good), and was available in our local Liquor Store and sometimes London Wineries "Sacramental Wine" (it was Baaaaad).

A Catholic Priest I knew preferred Liebfraumilch.

Considering Christ was a Jew, Kosher wine is OK.
 
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Buy em, try em, (but not all at once)!:thumbsup::D^_^

Haha! I might have to! I must say, I've never considered myself to much of a wine connoisseur (my preferred wine comes in a box and costs a whole $10 :p), but I may have to do a little experimenting. ^_^
 
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Haha! I might have to! I must say, I've never considered myself to much of a wine connoisseur (my preferred wine comes in a box and costs a whole $10 :p), but I may have to do a little experimenting. ^_^

Wine snobs say that boxed wine is actually a better storage method than bottles. There are apparently even some expensive wines that are experimenting with boxes for this reason. It just remains to be seen if people will accept expensive wine that comes in a box.

Is there a good reason that churches couldn't use boxed wine? It is inexpensive, keeps very well, and it would be easy to fill the little communion cups with the spigot.
 
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Wine snobs say that boxed wine is actually a better storage method than bottles. There are apparently even some expensive wines that are experimenting with boxes for this reason. It just remains to be seen if people will accept expensive wine that comes in a box.

Is there a good reason that churches couldn't use boxed wine? It is inexpensive, keeps very well, and it would be easy to fill the little communion cups with the spigot.
I drink wine.

To me, the skill is not drinking $50 bottles of wine, but finding inexpensive red wine that is good. (I drink red wine).

I found Concordia red wine (was it Manishewitz, I do not know) to be very good. No, I do not drink it as a regular wine.
But when I tasted it at that communion, all of us thought it tasted great and appropriate for that occasion.

Can't explain it better than that. :)

Thanks, :)
Ed
 
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We use Meier Wines from here in Cincinnati. Their Grape Concord wine is excellent. I've found that I like white wines better than reds for the most part and sweet wine much better than dry.

My current favorite is from a "new" grape called Symphony from Baywood Farms. Their 2000 Late Harvest is delicious. Not too sweet and NO aftertaste of alcohol. mmmm I get it at Jungle Jim's. (which, if you like beer...is THE MECCA for beer lovers. Seriously. They have beer from all over the world. I have some Thistle ale and some Monty Python's Holy Grail Ale in the kitchen right now.)

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Wine snobs say that boxed wine is actually a better storage method than bottles. There are apparently even some expensive wines that are experimenting with boxes for this reason. It just remains to be seen if people will accept expensive wine that comes in a box.

Is there a good reason that churches couldn't use boxed wine? It is inexpensive, keeps very well, and it would be easy to fill the little communion cups with the spigot.

That would work well, though one should probably not use the cheapest ones because US standards let them basically be artificial things mixed with wine. Names such as Almaden, Franzia, Carlo Rossi, and Peter Vella contain, water, fruit juices, sugar and distilled grape alcohol in addition to wine. Now I'm not sure that people would find that fact objectionable. But it should be noted so there is not misunderstanding.

Some boxed wines like the Black Box brand are true wines and would work just fine.

One thing is you never get a corked box.

Anything with a screw top tends to avoid that as well.

Though I don't know anyone who requires it, it has been somewhat traditional to use a sweet wine for Communion. Symbolizing the Lord's sweetness. I really wouldn't suggest a heavily oaked red that needs to be set down for 10 more years as a Communion wine.

I really think the widest used is likely Mogen David or at least it was. I believe the general rationalization was it was acceptable, and it was cheap. Maybe that didn't mean anything in some circles but the Scandinavians tended to be a bit tight concerning spending more money than necessary on the wine.

The other style that is often used was specifically made for Communion and bears a strong resemblance to Port. The wine during fermentation has brandy added to stop the fermentation producing a sweet wine. And the brandy serves to preseve it. Catholics aren't supposed to use anything over 20 percent alcohol so traditional Catholic Communion wine was just a bit under that. Most Ports would be over the 20 percent. But if someone was to use a nice Reserve Ruby Port, I could find it in my heart to forgive any transgression. Especially if they let me help properly dispose of any leftovers. There'd probably be a waiting list to get on the altar guild after awhile.

Some people get really strict about what they want to consider wine. I'm not too dogmatic about it. I can give my brother a heart attack simply by suggesting that a wine would be improved with a bit of 7-up, or if it needs more oak a simple shot of whiskey (Canadian of course) serves well. But then while fine for personal use, I wouldn't want to introduce the practice into Communion. The ideal Communion wine is sweet and trasparent, that is not noticed. The wine isn't our focus. Really I wouldn't want a bunch of people trying to guess what the origen or labeling of the Communion wine is.
 
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It doesn't really matter whether it's in a box or bottle or 30 gallon drum, as long as it's grape wine.

The church where I served my resident field education during seminary used Port, which has a higher alcohol content. The smell of it would knock you over upon entering the Nave.
 
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