CoreyD
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Really, Keith.
What did sin do to the sun... the moon... the stars... rocks.... the sea... ?
Indirectly, sin does affect plant and animal life, but these do not have sin.
Pathogens.
What are Pathogens?
A pathogen is any organism that causes disease. Pathogens can include viruses, bacteria, fungi, and parasites. They enter the body and replicate, causing illnesses...
Can human pass on pathogens to animals, and plants?
Humans pass on more viruses to domestic and wild animals than we catch from them, according to a major new analysis of viral genomes by UCL researchers.
Incidents of animal or plant disease are not solely natural occurrences. Human actions are extensively implicated in the spread and outbreak of disease. In turn, disease affects human interests widely, and much effort is spent in the control of disease. Consequently, it is difficult to prise apart the natural phenomena of disease and the social phenomena of the drivers, impacts and regulation of disease. Yet, our understanding of animal and plant diseases is riven by a great divide between the natural and social sciences - a divide that is entrenched in differences of research methods, approaches and languages. The resulting fragmentation of knowledge hinders progress in understanding and dealing with disease.
If you want to experiment with this yourself, get a diseased person to defecate. Bury the stool, in the earth. Then put a young plant in the soil. Eat the plant.
Disclaimer: Try this at your own risk.
Yes, the indirect effects of man's sin.
Not animals.
Why did Jesus not die for the poor animals in sin? how will they be redeemed?
I agree. Animals did not die of diseases, or sickness.
I agree. The whole creation here does not refer to the universe.
For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God. Romans 8:19
mankind waits eagerly. not the sun, moon, and stars... and certainly your dog, or cat... if you have either, is not sitting at home waiting eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God.
Would you agree?
Who cursed the ground?
What was the result of the cursing of the ground?
Please answer with scripture, please. Thanks.
Yes. Not diseases, and sickness. Not sin.
People have their understanding of this, which is evidently not what the Bible agrees with.
However this is a different subject, which if you want to discuss it, you can respond to this thread - Will This Planet Be destroyed?.
Which scripture can I read that in?
There was never death in heaven.
No one in heaven is mortal, and dies naturally, or from sickness.
I do agree that there will be animals on earth for all eternity Isaiah 11:6-9; Isaiah 65:17, 26. However, this is not because animals do not die, but because animals reproduce, and their offspring carry on the process.
Surely you do not think the earth can contain undying, multiplying species by the thousands, do you?
Why does common sense logic not win out over wishful thinking? That baffles me, Keith.
There are no animals in heaven.
If you believe this, then you would probably believe, God has a chariot in heaven riding, and the angels have four heads - one of an eagle; one of a lion; one of a bull; one of a man.
You probably believe a literal beast like this exists somewhere on earth.
Do you believe these are literal, and that Jesus will actually be riding a literal horse when he comes?
Do you take everything in the book of Revelation literally?
Here is why you shouldn't.
Revelation 1:1
The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave to him, to show to his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it [gave in signs] by his angel to his servant John:
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