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So are we to believe, then, that the EOC leadership, that very recently jointly declared that the papacy was the only remaining bar to unity with Rome, teaches justification by faith? Rome would be interested to know that, I'm sure.They are very clear and everything you said about them is completely false.
Actually, we do, if we feel that 1. the person inquiring is genuine in their inquiry and 2. said person is capable of understanding the answer(s).That's my point. The EOC does not go out of its way to make its teaching clear.[/size]
Maybe you should go back and reread the entire OP.
Sure it is- our answers are characterized as abundantly simple, by those who profer a simple answer: "We get ours from the bible."I believe you know that the answer for any faith is not that simple.
Apparently you missed my answer. It's there, if you care to "reread it."Not even going to try to guess?
Sure, I could do that- but I haven't- and here we are.Didn't say it was a life-changing question/discussion. If it bores you, feel free to ignore the thread.
I read it in the bible- the parts that some haven't highlighted in yellow.So, my question is upon what do you base this belief? How do you know this to be the truth?
No, I don't know that. It is in fact the very clear and simple reading of his constant parallels between Rome and LDS (and now us- praise God) that leads one to see intent.That's not what Josiah does and you know that.
No, I don't know that. It is in fact the very clear and simple reading of his constant parallels between Rome and LDS (and now us- praise God) that leads one to see intent.
Ahh, so we're a cult.I'm always suspicious of a religion that is afraid of receiving inquiries from non-members and refuses to or is unable to explain what it believes. I won't throw in the names of any cults at this point, but we all know those that come to mind.
Sure.The "intent" was to compare these churches with regard to ONE characteristic, not that everything about them is identical. Most of us got that the first time around.
Ahh, the unbridled condescension. Like religious Stepford Wives, we only repeat what we've been programmed to believe. But Rome is only like LDS in ONE dimension, right Albion?I thought the question was about the EO and RC. Now I am thinking it was really asked of the EO and RC (meaning, its members here).
They're not going to go beyond the pet words you asked not to be used, you know. They never do, which I think is because they aren't able to. It confuses them when we push into "What does that really mean to you?" territory.
This could be a reference to Protestants who do not know much theology and will not ask difficult questions.Yet, even in the midst of this vast wasteland- to borrow a phrase from TS Eliot- are genuine, humble, thoughtful Protestants and seekers who ask in order to learn. You know, of course, who you are.
Best I can tell he believes that the fact that they both claim authority means that both claims are equally invalid. No?
The "intent" was to compare these churches with regard to ONE characteristic, not that everything about them is identical. Most of us got that the first time around.
Or to those who claim to know plenty about theology and about other faith traditions- and are not interested in asking questions, but rather, pontificating.This could be a reference to Protestants who do not know much theology and will not ask difficult questions.
Did I forget to include an inordinate defensiveness is characteristic of some of these churches? I didn't say you are a cult.Ahh, so we're a cult.
Now...I DO know for a fact that I made mention of that obsession with educating the rest of us.TAW is a great place for serious inquirers. GT is a good place to endure polemics.
The "intent" was to compare these churches with regard to ONE characteristic, not that everything about them is identical. Most of us got that the first time around.
Ahh, so we're a cult.[/qutoe]
Did I forget to include an inordinate defensiveness is characteristic of some of these churches?
Now...I DO know for a fact that I made mention of that obsession with educating the rest of us.
Since we are not members of the church in question, we can't possibly know anything, but at the same time it's also assumed that we really must be yearning to know!
I do think its fair to ask whether one asks out of a serious interest or a sort of "idle curiosity".
Do we have toTAW is a great place for serious inquirers. GT is a good place to endure polemics.
In one way, Protestant churches are very simila to the Gnostics. Is that statement ok, then?
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