from Satanist to Christian

[User101]

is it possible? one of My best friends and i went to the same primary school, he comes from one of the most beautiful christian families i've ever known and after we started at different high schools we used to keep in touch by his youth group. But for reasons i can't explain he has made the choice to become satanic.

I now have a group of satanic friends, I respect their choice and so they respect mine (they refrain from doing things around me that are not helpfull to my christian walk) but i cant help but hate the fact that hey they follow and worship my biggest enemy. And they pray to him that i will become one of them.

Of course i pray to God that i wont be sucked in, and I pray for them too but is there anyway to witness to them without breaching the whole I'll respect your choice if you respect mine thing?

and before any of you suggest, I really dont want this to end our friendship. What sort of example would that make me? Besides, they're my friends and now (whether acknowladging or not) they need my help. *sigh* any ideas?

 

[AndrewK788]

That is a pretty tough spot you're in and I understand how you would feel as I've had several friends get sucked into stuff like that. The most important thing you can do is just love them. That doesn't mean you need to conform to them, compromise your belief, or anything. Just love them and be kind to them unconditionally. The worst thing would be to judge them and further alienate them from Christ.

Honestly, that is all you can do. You can't force them, nor would you want to, since that wouldn't help anything. Pray continually and maintain your own strong relationship with Christ. The choice will then be theirs. They will either be influenced may possibly turn back, or they may not. God gave us free choice. But that wouldn't be something you should feel responsible for.

So I'm definitely not saying you shouldn't be friends with them. In fact, you might be their only link to Christ right now, and though it may not feel like it, every word you say and every action you do speaks volumes about who you serve. So in a nutshell, the best thing you can do is just love them, pray for them, and don't force them. Let the Holy Spirit take care of what's beyond your control.

 

[wild@heart63]

"They pray to him that I will become one of them" and you call people who are praying that you become a "satanist" friends?

How as a Christian can you first call these people who are clearly and so openly opposed to God that they openly worship Satan your friends, and second say you "respect their choice"?

Paul writes in 2 Corinthians 6:14 "Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness"

It would be bad enough to be friends with someone who simply did not believe in God, but to associate with people who worship the very epitome of sin and evil. The father of lies himself is just mind boggling to me.

You may think you are doing them a favor by "being their Christian friend" and not "condemning" them because of their choice, but I have to tell you, that you are doing them no favors and you are putting your self in jeopardy of being held accountable for their eternal punishment by your unwillingness to stand up for Christ and witness for Him, and warn them of the consequences of their choice.

"When I say to the wicked, you shall surely die; and you give him no warning, nor to speak to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life, that same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood I will require at your hands" Ezekiel 3:18



They are unrepentant sinners who if they continue in this way are going to die in their sin and they will spend eternity separated from God. If you truly have anything in your heart for these people you will seek God and ask Him to work through you to turn them away from this and back to eternal life.

I know you do not want to "judge" them, but that concept has been misinterpreted badly. We are not to judge others for things that we either do or have done ourselves. But Jesus Himself said in John 7:24 "Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment"
In other words we are to use a moral and theological discernment, by using God's word to see if someone and what they believe and how they live lines up with the Bible. Clearly these people you call friends do not.

I am not trying to be rude here, but it sounds like you are more concerned about being their "friend" and not losing their respect, than you are the condition of their heart and where they are going to spend eternity.

Think about it

BTW if they are really true "satanists" they don't give a flip about your "Christian walk" or not doing things around you that will mess that up. Sooner or later they will do what ever they can to cause you to stumble and fall and you can take that straight to the bank. They hate you because the god they serve hates you. If they tell you different they are either liars or not really satanists.

"Be sober be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour" 1 Peter 5:8

In Christ

John

 

[EXPOSEtheLIES]

you have NO IDEA what you are getting yourself into, are these "friends" generational satanists, meaning are their parents satanists also?

Do you have *any* idea what "satanists" *do* in their worship to satan?? They are all trained to deny and cover up the truth of what they do in their disgusting blood ritual "worship" to satan.

Histrorians and anthropologists acknowledge and by NO COINCIDENCE today most therapists will encounter people coming from satanic ritual activities. There are too many of us x-occultists coming forward wth the same stories of torture, sacrifice, sexual and physical abuse and details of rites for ritual abuse to be a fabrication. People that worship demons and the devil do horrific things in worship to him in rituals even today the week prior to halloween is full of sick disgusting BLOOD rituals to honor satan.

If you truly love Jesus Christ, you will offer your "friends" the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ, but you will not dishonor your GOD by walking together with those who worship satan and demons.

 

[cesty]

is it possible? one of My best friends and i went to the same primary school, he comes from one of the most beautiful christian families i've ever known and after we started at different high schools we used to keep in touch by his youth group. But for reasons i can't explain he has made the choice to become satanic.

I now have a group of satanic friends, I respect their choice and so they respect mine (they refrain from doing things around me that are not helpfull to my christian walk) but i cant help but hate the fact that hey they follow and worship my biggest enemy. And they pray to him that i will become one of them.

Of course i pray to God that i wont be sucked in, and I pray for them too but is there anyway to witness to them without breaching the whole I'll respect your choice if you respect mine thing?

and before any of you suggest, I really dont want this to end our friendship. What sort of example would that make me? Besides, they're my friends and now (whether acknowladging or not) they need my help. *sigh* any ideas?

As an older brother in Christ, this is my admonition to you:

These people are not your friends. They are walking with and worshiping Satan, which means they are your enemies. Moreover, they are likely possessed by demons who are in control of their thoughts.

Therefore, you should take a strong stand against what they are doing. Tell them that as long as they continue to worship Satan you can't be friends with them. It would also be good to tell them that they should give their lives to Jesus Christ. If they refuse to do that then you should separate yourself from them before they influence you to turn away from God.

Already they are getting you to sympathize with them, which means they are manipulating you. Sympathy is one of the strongest tools that Satan uses to lure people into his web of deceit. Don't fall for it!

Listen to Paul:

Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness? And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever? (2 Corinthians 6:14-15 NKJV)

What Paul has said here is not advice; nor is it an opinion. It is God inspired counsel that you must obey! If you love the Lord you will follow it, because Jesus said, "If you love Me, keep My commandments." (John 14:15 NKJV)

 

[cesty]

You may think you are doing them a favor by "being their Christian friend" and not "condemning" them because of their choice, but I have to tell you, that you are doing them no favors and you are putting your self in jeopardy of being held accountable for their eternal punishment by your unwillingness to stand up for Christ and witness for Him, and warn them of the consequences of their choice.

"When I say to the wicked, you shall surely die; and you give him no warning, nor to speak to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life, that same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood I will require at your hands" Ezekiel 3:18

You are taking this passage out of context! Ezekiel was called by God to be a prophet, which means he had a high calling to lead those who were living in sin back to God. Not all share this office within the Church. God had a specific message that He raised Ezekiel up to preach. To not preach that message was to reject God's calling for him and thus turn his back on God by compromising with the enemy.

This young lady may not have the same responsibility as Ezekiel at this time. In fact, she may never have it.

Therefore, by applying this passage to her you are putting a responsibility on her to be a prophet of God when you don't even know that that is God's calling for her!

Now I am not denying that she should separate herself from these people; nor am I saying that it is wrong for you to tell her that she should warn them about their choice of lifestyle. Indeed, she should not have any respect for their choice of lifestyle as it is one that opposes God's choice for His people.

What I am saying however, is that it is not for you to tell her that if she doesn't condemn them for what they are doing then their blood will be on her hands. That was God's message to Ezekiel because He called him to the office of the prophetic. This may not be the case with her as only God has the right to assign people to the office of the prophetic.

Whoever is assigned to such a position has a great responsibility to verbally warn God's people about their sins, which means they have a greater accountability to God to lead than a typical believer does. This explains why God had informed Ezekiel that their blood would be on his hands if he didn't do what God called him to do.

In other words, God was disclosing to him the serious nature of the calling, and was therefore telling Ezekiel that he had to take this responsibility very seriously.

I realize that you only mean to do good here; but you need to be careful that you don't try to put people in an office that God has not called them to take. By doing this you could cause more harm to them than good; and you will have to answer to God for it, especially if you put them in harm's way as a result of it.

 

[hsmommyofmany]

i agree that you should love them, personally i think you should stay away from them. the bible really kind of warns us (like one of the other posters said) of having close relationships with non-believers. obviously you want to be visible to them and have a "relationship" with them but it needs to be fairly superficial...enough to be able to love and witness but not close enough for you to become tempted to do something that God would disapprove of. i think you need to be really careful. good luck.

 

[wild@heart63]

Let me clarify, It was not my intention to put this person in the office of prophet, by referencing this scripture. Nor did I intend to place any responsibility on her, that God has not called her to.

My intent was to show that all of us who claim to be Christians are responsible for sharing the gospel of Christ with the lost. We are all called in some way to minister. Witnessing in itself is ministry. This young lady says she is a Christian and has friends who are satanists, yet says she "respects their choice" and while she wants to witness to them but wants to know how to do it "without breaching the whole I'll respect your choice if you respect mine thing?" Clearly their eternal destination is far more important than possibly losing them as friends.

Thank you for your input on the Ezekiel scripture

In Christ

John

 

[wild@heart63]

You say "and before any of you suggest, I really dont want this to end our friendship. What sort of example would that make me? Besides, they're my friends and now (whether acknowladging or not) they need my help. *sigh* any ideas"?

You are a Christian who loves and worships God, so of course you are looking at them with the love of Christ and because you have the love of Christ you do not want to end the friendships and you will not do anything from your side of the relationship to jeopardize this.

On the other hand they are satanists they worship Satan who has no love for them and they have no love for him or if they do it is twisted and wrong and he most certainly hates them and he hates you. So he is going to use them in any way he can to try and destroy you. Now they can tell you all they want they are your friends and respect your choice, but remember they worship Satan and he does not respect anything or anyone.

Sooner or later either they will be positively effected by your choice to be a Christian or you will be adversely effected by their choice to be satanists. For your sake I hope they are positively effected by your choice to be a Christian.

Regardless you need to separate yourself from them.

"And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what [is] that good and acceptable and perfect will of God". Romans 12:2

In Christ

John

 

[nahtino]

I read the first few posts ..and want to jump right in

The approach to show them LOVE .. is indeed true and must be applied to our fellow brothers and sisters , but tht doesnt mean love what them as they are ..

I would strongly advise ..infact Im telling straight t keep away from them .. and pray earnestly and HARD for their salvation ... if your incontact with them ...be a strong and unwaivering LIGHT for the Kingdom of God ..never compromise ..

They are not your friends , WHY !? Well , they are activley seeking to worship and work for the ultimatte enemy , I read in your posts , absolute lukewarm nonchalnte attitude to this issue ..

Satan and his followers are NOT a bunch of pixey fair baddy baddy Gi-Ijoe figurine monster bad guys ...They are dabbling in hecticly powerfull stuff .. infact YOU ARE SATANS ABSOLUTE ENEMY, He hates you, HE HATES YOUR FRIENDS, He HATES us ALL ..HiS PLAN IS TO TURN YOUR SOUL INTO HIM and PERISH IN HELL FOR IT ..!!

Do not confuse it ..!

How can you firstly Respect their choice ..in doing that ..?! Jesus HIMSELF HATES EVIL, he tells us to do so in ..I canot rember what verse that is right now ..

 

[cesty]

Let me clarify, It was not my intention to put this person in the office of prophet, by referencing this scripture. Nor did I intend to place any responsibility on her, that God has not called her to.

My intent was to show that all of us who claim to be Christians are responsible for sharing the gospel of Christ with the lost. We are all called in some way to minister. Witnessing in itself is ministry. This young lady says she is a Christian and has friends who are satanists, yet says she "respects their choice" and while she wants to witness to them but wants to know how to do it "without breaching the whole I'll respect your choice if you respect mine thing?" Clearly their eternal destination is far more important than possibly losing them as friends.

Thank you for your input on the Ezekiel scripture

In Christ

John

I fully understand. I don't believe you were intentionally trying to put her into the office of the prophetic.

All I'm saying is that we need to be very careful to keep scripture in its proper context to avoid misleading people.

By the way, you are correct about your assessment of the situation. The idea of respecting choices that are contrary to God's choice for us is not something that we are required to do. We are to hate evil, no matter what form it comes in:

"Seek good and not evil, That you may live; So the LORD God of hosts will be with you, As you have spoken. Hate evil, love good; Establish justice in the gate. It may be that the LORD God of hosts Will be gracious to the remnant of Joseph." (Amos 5:14-15 NKJV)

Nevertheless, we are required to love our enemies:

"But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you" (Matthew 5:44 NKJV)

Unfortunately, a lot of Christians equate the two: that is, they assume that you can't love a person without fostering respect for their beliefs. This is one of Satan's greatest deceptions. Thus, he gets people to become 'lukewarm' by getting them to respect choices that should be despised, and thereby manipulates them into believing that if they despise a person's choices then that means they are not being loving towards that person.

As a result of this people don't take sin as seriously as they ought to and they ultimately end up embracing the enemy by giving the impression that the 'choice' which constitutes sin is not to be taken seriously. Eventually this either leads them to fall into the same or similar sins, or causes unbelievers to not take the message of Jesus Christ seriously enough to repent of their evil ways.

We need to be very careful that we don't fall for this lie. There is a reason why the Bible refers to Satan as a serpent. He is very cunning! And too many people underestimate what he is capable of doing.

 

[vespasia]

Hallo xLiLxMiSsxHaViCx

Yes it is possible to choose Christ even after spending decades on the LHP.

I did.

I was also theistic rather than atheistic.

Is it possible to make someone choose Christ? No, but you can pray for them to begin to seek God as He truly is rather than as they think He is.
Given that most people who choose Christ do so because of the patient loving witness of friends I get concerned when a group of sinners are more demonised than any other group of sinners.

It is not too unusual to find teenagers form Christian families rebelling and choosing satanism. What makes a differance can be their rationale for making that choice. We used to have angry young kids turn up at open events wearing a do it yourself upside down cross announcing they 'wanted to be a satanist' the minute they found out the reality would be university level study often on their own and very little dancing around in the nip they went home to mum and dad.

Many younger teenagers go through a rebellious phase in which they buy LaVey's books and think its cool to call themselves 'satanists'. Very few have the intellectual capacity or real interest to apply themselves to get as far as joining any established groups. It really is a case of over 95% of young people need not apply. Most only keep the interest up for a few months. Some frighten themselves, others have disturbing experiences but for most nothing happens, either way if the doors of communication and friendship are left open they may feel it is okay to come back to you and chat about faith for very few have the interest that makes them into dedicated satanists or occultist's and many go back to God later once the reasons for their rebellion has been dealt with by Him.


Wait till they see the price of ceremonial kit never mind the cost of the books. That usually frightens most wannabes off.

If you offer the Christian supposition of what satanism is the chances of being able to witness Christ as he is will be lost.


Jeff Harshbarger's website Refuge Ministries contains some very good links to articles on other Christian websites. You may find it helpful to read John Smulo's articles at the online Sacred Tribes Journal over the current state of satanism in the USA; both offer free to view information that is cited so you can check.
I recommend contacting Jeff as he is based in the USA and has a wealth of experience of working with young people.

If you have any specific questions you are welcome to ask me them here in this thread.

 

[cesty]

Hallo xLiLxMiSsxHaViCx

If you offer the Christian supposition of what satanism is the chances of being able to witness Christ as he is will be lost.

Do you even understand what you are saying here?

Did Jesus not speak boldly to others on the matter of sin? Did He not encourage His disciples to do the same?

If we take your counsel at face value then we would have to conclude that you are saying Jesus was a failure when it came to sharing the truth with others, and that those who speak boldly for Jesus Christ against sin are likewise failures when it comes to witnessing.

Granted, we need to use tact when witnessing; but the message should never be compromised for comfort. You appear to be suggesting that we need to make people feel comfortable when we talk about Jesus Christ. Yet, Jesus disagrees with this. For, He said:

"Therefore whoever confesses Me before men, him I will also confess before My Father who is in heaven. But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven. "Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword." (Matthew 10:32-34 NKJV)

Your counsel is a perfect example of what I was talking about in my previous post on the matter of Satan working to manipulate people into giving him sympathy. What you are basically saying here is that we shouldn't be bold for Jesus Christ.

vespasia, it also appears that you didn't pay attention to what the OP had said. She said that these people are PRAYING to Satan. What this means is that they have taken this to a whole other level than what you seem to be putting off as a phase that a lot of teens go through.

Therefore, I reject your counsel, and hopefully the OP will be wise enough to see it for what it really is.

Finally, no one is demonizing people here, vespasia. We are telling this young lady what the Bible says on this matter. If anything, you are demonizing us by implying that we are not giving her godly counsel.

You need to be very careful with your words, vespasia. If you influence this young lady to keep close ties with these people and she ends up moving away from God as a result of it, then you will be held accountable for it. I don't think you realize how serious a matter this is.

 

[seashale76]

xLiLxMiSsxHaViCx,

Anything is possible to the living God, our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. However, speaking as a person who had lots of friends who were involved in the occult when I was a teen, you need to separate yourself from them. You don't have to be negative or judgmental in doing this, but your beliefs are incompatible. You need to concentrate on your salvation. You need to have and follow a prayer rule, and you need to be involved in your church (if you don't go, you need to).

 

[vespasia]

Cesty, yes, I do.

It was the biggest reason I rejected Christ for so many years.
IF I had encountered someone who had an ability to present an intelligent reason [apologetics] for considering Christ with a genuine understanding of my faith instead of assumptions and suppostions I may have chosen Christ far sooner.
I can speak for I have been there and my path was far darker than simple satanism which is considered a light expression of the LHP, I am willing to answer questions openly in this forum in this thread that she may ask esp if she is witnessing Christ to those who are wondering lost.

I am however puzzeled to know why suggesting she contacts Refuge ministries is wrong. Please run a google search on Jeff Harshbarger you will find interviews, youtube clips and book reviews.

I did have Christians tell me what they thought satanism was based on reading Christian books that were very poorly researched, that is if they even had any research, and this made me question if I could then trust what they also claimed for Christ.

I have been vilified and demonised on this forum for having been where I have since I joined it is not exactly something new, christians fear that which they do not have compassion or understanding for; this is not the same as saying accept satanism as a valid alternative for it is not; it is saying look at the person as you would any other sinner who needs Christ.

Christians are not Christ. We follow Christ but we are not Christ yet when we speak for Christ to none believers they catch a glimpse of Christ through us. What version of Christ do we show them when we say they are evil, should not be associated with, are to be feared and vilified? It makes people believe the lie they are reprobate and that is destructive.
I had been practicing for a few years by 15, those who ran form me because of my beliefs simply told me in their actions their faith was valueless, those who bothered to invite me for coffee and chatted with me by their actions told me they had a faith that was interesting even if I was not ready to consider it. The advice you have given nearly immunised me agianst Christ and of those I have spent time with who are onsidering leaving their path for Christ this recommendation to isolate them from talking with Christians has led to them thinking Christ does not want them so there is no point considering becoming a follower of Christ.


I am comfortable in talking with such for they are simply sinners who need to see Christ lived in another's life so they can hear why we are different. too often Christians claim many things with their lips but fail to live what they claim in their actual real lives.

Bold for Christ means speaking out not only to those who do not believe but also to the church itself. My church home is evangelical, my preferred form of Christian spirituality is desert. It is unlikly I would post as a pentecostal charismatic or catholic jesuit but this does not make what I have to share invalid or wrong simply that I offer a different pov from my place in His body.

Now who is greater, God or Satan?

We who have turned to Christ are covered by Grace from God because of the redemption of the cross. They may pray to satan but that is only a created entity it is NOT the awesome Creator. It cannot touch us or hurt us if we are sheltered under God's wings. To be bold means not only knowing this but living this in an applied way.

I do realise my accountability before God. I have to I carry responsibility for others lives at church, at seminary and anywhere I interact with others. If I was to say be too scared to share Christ with those who are rebelling so they loose sight of Christ and walk away then I carry responsibility for them having been denied a chance to hear the gospel of Christ and be disciplined.
Is everyones faith so weak it is blown hither and thither by the wind?
I do not dispise the young for their faith and encourage them to be bold in sharing it with their friends at a time in their lives when the counsel of christian friends carries far greater weight than that of christian parents.

 

[cesty]

Vespasia,

If words spoken cause people to move away from Christ or result in persecution of the one who spoke them, that doesn't mean the messenger has failed to do what Christ has ordered for His life at that moment. Not all will receive the truth as it is in Jesus Christ. Moreover, "all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution." (2 Timothy 3:12 NKJV) And if we aren't being persecuted for our faith, then it is time to take a close look at our relationship with Jesus Christ, as it could be possible that we are not taking it as seriously as we ought to be!

It is important to understand that those of this generation who belong to Jesus Christ will not be measured in large numbers as the path is narrow that leads to life, while the way to destruction is wide. Therefore,
quantity is not always quality, which means we shouldn't go by the response alone when it comes to determining the the virtue and efficacy of witnessing.

For, you can do all that you are supposed to do and still be left with little results. After all, even Jesus was rejected by many and virtually by all when He was crucified. Would you say that because He was rejected by many that that means He was not as effective as you think a witness should be?

Don't misunderstand my point here. It is a good thing to share our faith; but it is unwise to keep close ties with those who oppose it. It's not a matter of cutting ourselves off from those who reject God because we think that they are not worth reaching out to; rather, it is a matter of following the clear counsel of the Bible; it's a matter of making good use of the short period of time in which we have to set out hearts right with God; and it's a matter of sharing our faith with those who are open to receiving the Truth as it is in Jesus Christ rather than to waste it on people who are, in essence, praying for our destruction.

Even Jesus instructed His disciples to turn away from those who rejected the message:

And whoever will not receive you nor hear your words, when you depart from that house or city, shake off the dust from your feet. (Matthew 10:14 NKJV)

He also said,

"Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces. (Matthew 7:6 NKJV)

What this tells us is that there is a threshold when it comes to witnessing. In other words, just as there is a time to reach out to others for Christ, there is also a time to break our ties with those who reject Him.

By your estimation Jesus would have been wrong for saying what He had said to His disciples.

Therefore, my counsel still stands. This young lady needs to let these Satanists know that she will no longer be their friend as long as they continue to worship Satan. If there is any hope at all to bring them to Christ, then the Holy Spirit will use whatever means are necessary to accomplish that. God knows who belongs to Him and He will not fail to save anyone who has a genuine desire to receive the Truth as it is in Jesus Christ.

But encouraging this young lady to keep close ties with these people in order to do this is to not only put her in danger of being influenced by them to reject The Truth as it is in Jesus Christ, it is also to give her counsel that opposes the Word of God which says,

Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. (2 Corinthians 6:14-18 KJV)

Finally, the comment that you made wherein you said,

I do not dispise the young for their faith and encourage them to be bold in sharing it with their friends at a time in their lives when the counsel of christian friends carries far greater weight than that of christian parents.

Vespasia, Christian parents will obviously know what's best for their children if they are following God's counsel; and children are commanded by God to obey their parents when their parents give instruction that is according to God's counsel.

Therefore, we need to be careful to keep a respectful distance from both children and teens when it comes to addressing the matter on how they should regard their parent's counsel.

 

[User101]

GUYS GUYS GUYS!!! calm down a little! I'm young but even i know that we can settle differences of opinion in a much less venemous way than what is being done now. State your opinions and respect that not everyone veiws things the same.

Now I apologise for not replying in a while but ive been at my grandparents and they dont have good internet access.

let me just get this straight, I was friends with these people BEFORE they made this choice. I LOVED them BEFORE they made this choice and i still love WHO THEY ARE even now they have made this horrible choice.

I am not ignorant of how crafty the devil is, i know that no mortal will ever be able to conquer him by themselves which is why i NEED to help my friends. I have been pulled away from Christ before but im back, stronger then ever and i have many amazing Christian friends that pray for me as well as my friends.

This post is not about my life, if you want to know about that then look up the recovery forums. This thread is about my Friends.

I know about the "do not be yolked with non-beleivers" verse which is why i refused to date the boy! But I still love him, which we are also called to do.

I do not love what he is doing, i dont love his actions, but i still love HIM. Its not his fault that he was born into this world of destruction and evil. I cannot just leave him in his time of need and so condem him to hell. What sort of person would that make me? I cannot think of a greater sin than to just let go of him and thus take all hope of salvation away.

I am strong in my walk with Christ, i know there will be times that i'll slip up but i have friends who will keep me on the straight and narrow. I want to know what i can do for him. For my friend. He needs help and i cant just leave him.

I dont respect satan, he is evil, I know this, but i do respect that my friend has just been caught in a snare of the devils. I will not give up on my friend. I'm not good at much, but at loving i am, at caring i am, God gave me the gift of empathy. My friend is struggling, I need to at least try to bring him back to Christ. I won't give up on him, not yet.

I am well aware of the dangers i am about to face, and i know that with God by my side if it is His will for me to do this I will not fail.

I ask again, any suggestions for how to HELP my friend?

 

[vespasia]

Have a read of Jeffs website here

http://www.refugeministries.cc/main.asp

Jeff is a very good person to contact and should be able to put you in contact with someone closer to home esp if your friend has lots of questions about faith in general and needs someone to chat with.

This is from a Christian youth website on witnessing to your mate who has chosen satanism.

http://www.dare2share.org/satanists/

 

[wild@heart63]

This is what you can do for your friend. You can love him with the love of Christ and care about him and share with him about Jesus Christ. Pray that God will show Himself to him and change his heart and show him the dangers and consequences of his choice of following and worshiping Satan.

You opened this thread speaking about your one friend then jumped into talking about being friends with a group of people who were satanists.

"I now have a group of satanic friends, I respect their choice and so they respect mine (they refrain from doing things around me that are not helpfull to my christian walk) but i cant help but hate the fact that hey they follow and worship my biggest enemy. And they pray to him that i will become one of them".

No one here is being "venomous" we are just trying to give you sound biblical advice. Based on what you said. No one is saying you should abandon him, just be aware that the more you "hang out" together with him and these other "Satanic friends" while you are trying to "help" them, Satan will be using them to trip you up.

In Christ

John

 

[warriorbride]

God does say in his word, do not be unequally yoked. There will be a time that light and dark will not mix and as you mature, and they do not want to change, you will eventually have to separate. That's what happens when you get saved, there will be friends that you may have to let go, because you don't have the same things in common and God says this so that you don't get sucked in, to protect you. You have to be careful because they can put curses on you and you are opening yourself up to the devil by dealing with them, there can be transference of demonic spirits if they touch you and I'm sure that what they talk about doesn't interest you. You need to pray for them, but if they continue, you should not have any desire to be around them because you can't share about your faith.