Frequency of Tithes

[ByWayofLight]

Are you a levite?

Didn't think so. You don't get tithe, period.

There is no command in the new testament to pay tithe.

There are only free will offerings. (which means the preacher technically isn't even supposed to "ask" for an offering.)

There should be a box somewhere in the church, or something similar where people can choose to give money if and when they want to.

Passing around offering plates/buckets and upselling the pastor's literature in the church service are a form of coercion.

Surely you must understand the church needs money to maintain the facilities, pay it's bills, provide coffee etc. How is this done? through the faithful givers. No they don't have to give but they want to because they know it's better to give than receive. I have been an usher and I have passed the offering container and there is nothing more exciting than to see a child putting their coins in and nothing more sad than someone who waves me off. Why? because they give nothing so they will reap nothing. I was visiting in California and went to a church that I had always wanted to go to but didn't when I lived there. I went this one Sunday and found that it was an awesome church not because of the building but because of the people in it. At tithe time, people literally flooded the isles to have the opportunity to put their money into the baskets at the front of the altar. It was the most loving church I have ever visited.

As much as it may trouble you Wade try your hardest to put something in next time even if it's only a penny. The message of the Pastor is worth at least that.

 

[Wade Smith]

Surely you must understand the church needs money to maintain the facilities, pay it's bills, provide coffee etc. How is this done? through the faithful givers. No they don't have to give but they want to because they know it's better to give than receive. I have been an usher and I have passed the offering container and there is nothing more exciting than to see a child putting their coins in and nothing more sad than someone who waves me off. Why? because they give nothing so they will reap nothing. I was visiting in California and went to a church that I had always wanted to go to but didn't when I lived there. I went this one Sunday and found that it was an awesome church not because of the building but because of the people in it. At tithe time, people literally flooded the isles to have the opportunity to put their money into the baskets at the front of the altar. It was the most loving church I have ever visited.

As much as it may trouble you Wade try your hardest to put something in next time even if it's only a penny. The message of the Pastor is worth at least that.

You don't know anything about me.

I've probably given more percentage wise than you do.

And no, I never get any "100 fold return" on it either.

The whole modern church, particularly in America, is utterly consumed with the business of seeking selfish blessings, especially financially.

And I stand by my earlier statements.

The manner of fund raising in the vast majority of Chiristian churches is 100% unbiblical and coercion.

 

[ByWayofLight]

You don't know anything about me.
I've probably given more percentage wise than you do.

Your right I don't know anything about you except for what you have posted. Maybe you can tell us something about yourself and of your theology of giving? I 'd like to understand it.

Tell us of the percentage you give as from your previous post I gather that you didn't give at all because you felt coerced by the church. Please enlighten us.

 

[Bryan Cotton]

New Covenant giving is: freewill, sacrificial, generous, joyful, regular and motivated by love for God, fellow Christians and lost souls. Do not burden or curse God's poor who struggle to feed and shelter their family. Although there is no set percentage for Christians to give, all should give sacrificially or lower your standards of living in order to further the reach of the Gospel.

http://www.tithing-russkelly.com/

My post was never ment to ask if we are to tithe or not. It's horrible how the origin of the post took such a turn. I actually left the thread because of it.

My post was more so in the realms of the people who tithe "in the bible under the old covenant," did they tithe daily, weekly, monthly, yearly, whenever thye got an incresase.

The answer "I think" we came up with was it only refers to year to year.

Anyone want to address THAT?

Please note i'm not saying we should tithe or we shouldn't. My take on that is in other threads that ask "do modern day christians tithe."

 

[FallingWaters]

My post was never ment to ask if we are to tithe or not. It's horrible how the origin of the post took such a turn. I actually left the thread because of it.

My post was more so in the realms of the people who tithe "in the bible under the old covenant," did they tithe daily, weekly, monthly, yearly, whenever thye got an incresase.

The answer "I think" we came up with was it only refers to year to year.

Anyone want to address THAT?

Please note i'm not saying we should tithe or we shouldn't. My take on that is in other threads that ask "do modern day christians tithe."

If you click on the link I gave you, there is an in-depth study on the Old Testament tithe.

 

[FallingWaters]

This section addresses your question specifically, I think:

"POINT #9: FOUR TITHES: There are Four Different Tithes Described in the Bible.

The false teaching ignores all other tithes and focuses on an incorrect interpretation of the first religious tithe.​

The first religious tithe, called the "Levitical tithe," had two parts. Again, the whole first tithe was given to the Levites who were only servants to the priests (Numb. 18:21-24; Neh. 10:37). The Levites, in turn, gave one tenth of the whole tithe to the priests (Numb. 18:25-28; Neh. 10:38). According to Deuteronomy 12 and 14, the second religious tithe, called the "feast tithe," was eaten by worshipers in the streets of Jerusalem during the three yearly festivals (Deut. 12:1-19; 14:22-26). And, according to Deuteronomy 14 and 26, a third tithe, called the "poor tithe," was kept in the towns every third year to feed the poor (Deut. 14:28, 29; 26:12, 13). Also, according to First Samuel 8:14-17, the ruler collected the first and best ten per cent for political use. During Jesus’ time Rome collected the first ten per cent (10%) of most food and twenty per cent (20%) of fruit crops as its spoils of war. It is dishonest to single out the one religious tithe and ignore the other two important religious tithes."

 

[Bryan Cotton]

From the orignal thread when it was started...

This is not about if we are to tithe or not OR if we are under the law or not. My question is this:
When were tithes suppose to be paid for the people in the bible who are commanded to tithe Was it weekly, yearly, Ever 3 years, every seven years?

While your link was nice Falling Waters, it really doesnt touch much on the reason why I started this thread. i'm not looking for a lesson on wether we should tithe or not.

This section addresses your question specifically, I think:
"POINT #9: FOUR TITHES: There are Four Different Tithes Described in the Bible.

So now my question becomes, out of the four tithes mention in the bible, when were they to be paid, or collected. With exception to the "poor tithe" which your posted stated "called the "poor tithe," was kept in the towns every third year to feed the poor," the other 3 does not mention when they were to tithe. It just says it happened, or was suppose to happen. But like my orignal post say, was it weekly, yearly, every seven years, etc. etc.

btw, thanks for that link.

 

[FallingWaters]

From the orignal thread when it was started...

While your link was nice Falling Waters, it really doesnt touch much on the reason why I started this thread. i'm not looking for a lesson on wether we should tithe or not.

You know it's really impolite to be so rude to someone who is at least trying to help you. You say the link did not "touch" on the frequency of the tithes, but surely it does at least "touch" on it. I'm not stupid. I understood the original question.

So now my question becomes, out of the four tithes mention in the bible, when were they to be paid, or collected. With exception to the "poor tithe" which your posted stated "called the "poor tithe," was kept in the towns every third year to feed the poor," the other 3 does not mention when they were to tithe. It just says it happened, or was suppose to happen. But like my original post say, was it weekly, yearly, every seven years, etc. etc.

btw, thanks for that link.

My first answer is, I don't know. If I did, I would have told you 2 days ago.
I would have to go study it myself, and I don't care to do that since I don't have the time.
I thought you would appreciate at least being pointed in the right direction.

Larry Burkett in one of his books states that the equivalent sum of tithes was approximately 23% of one's income.

Good luck in your study.

 

[Bryan Cotton]

You know it's really impolite to be so rude to someone who is at least trying to help you. You say the link did not "touch" on the frequency of the tithes, but surely it does at least "touch" on it. I'm not stupid. I understood the original question.

I didn't mean to be rude. I was just trying to eplain that I was not looking for "if we should tithe or not. I did thank you for the link at the end of my last response. I actually did appreciate the link and actually mark it in IE to go back an read it. I was just saying it wasn't all that relevant to the orignal post. That part of my response was a response to this...

If you click on the link I gave you, there is an in-depth study on the Old Testament tithe.

I was not looking for an in-debth study on old testiment tithe.

However, I did mention that in that link (*point #9) did touch on my orignal post somewhat, which I'm thankfull for your attempt to help. I just had more question from what you had posted.

I'm sorry you took my response as rude. I seriously was not trying to be rude at all. I'm not even sure why you thought that. But it wont be the last tiem my post is taken wrongly. It's all good.

 

[ByWayofLight]

In Old Testament times, the tithe was primarily from their produced crops. Payment of tithe then would be after harvest and or after any increase. Likewise in our time payment is after our increase (paycheck for most). Not necessarily just in the form of money but in time and skills or any method that supports the kingdom.

 

[Bryan Cotton]

or after any increase. Likewise in our time payment is after our increase (paycheck for most). Not necessarily just in the form of money but in time and skills or any method that supports the kingdom.

Now that makes sense. I'd like to get the scriptures to back that up. Also, I might have "increase" wrong but I have a queston on that.

If in the middle of the year in the middle of the week ones cattle produced offspring, would they tithe that? Or would they wait for the cattle to get a year old (or of age for a cattle. I'm thinking in dog years so that might be off) and then tithe that?

 

[ByWayofLight]

I the old times, I think with animals it's the first born that is tithed. After the animal is able to be weaned from it's mother.

 

[Godslilgurlalways]

I usually pay tithes on everything I work for/earn whether it's once a week or maybe even twice a week. Depends on how you get paid I believe. I beleive most people if they aren't going to the house of the lord on a weekly basis or at least every other week they hold onto it and pay it the next time they are in the house of the lord.