Freedom of speech

[Moxie123]

I don't recognize your court.

There, that's how I wouldn't recognize your court.

-CryptoLutheran

This is how it works.

Any lawful (not legal) claim is based on harm to man or injury/loss of his property.

Let's say your golf ball sailed through my windshield and you refuse to restore my windshield.

I go to you and try to work it out privately. You refuse.

Over 30 days, I send you letters wishing for repair of my windshield. (this is evidence of due process). You refuse.

So I create a claim in claim format, using claim language (not legalese), and also writing the rules of my court, including evidence of due process, sealing the case, then file with the court clerk, getting my own case number and own case file and court date. I take a copy of that and pay a process server to serve you.

If you chose to not show to my court, the administrative hearing officer, my servant, signs the judgment and the sheriff attempts to collect the money. If the money cannot be collected, I sell the judgement.

 

[bhsmte]

This is how it works.

Any lawful (not legal) claim is based on harm to man or injury/loss of his property.

Let's say your golf ball sailed through my windshield and you refuse to restore my windshield.

I go to you and try to work it out privately. You refuse.

Over 30 days, I send you letters wishing for repair of my windshield. (this is evidence of due process). You refuse.

So I create a claim in claim format, using claim language (not legalese), and also writing the rules of my court, including evidence of due process, sealing the case, then file with the court clerk, getting my own case number and own case file and court date. I take a copy of that and pay a process server to serve you.

If you chose to not show to my court, the administrative hearing officer, my servant, signs the judgment and the sheriff attempts to collect the money. If the money cannot be collected, I sell the judgement.

What "court clerk" are you referring to exactly?

Where do you find this "court clerk"?

 

[Moxie123]

I would use the Federal Court or a small claims court clerk.

 

[bhsmte]

I would use the Federal Court or a small claims court clerk.

Both of which are public courts, with public records.

How exactly would you use a federal court, to settle a broken windshield claim?

 

[Moxie123]

There is a public side, and a private side to courts.

 

[bhsmte]

There is a public side, and a private side to courts.

Tell us about the private side of courts that have jurisdiction over someone, to settle a broken windshield claim.

 

[Moxie123]

The private side of courts in the common law style I am describing is done using non-statutory language, such as


words vs. terms (Webster’s vs. Black’s)
claim vs. complaint
require vs. request
man aggrieved vs. petitioner, claimant
notice vs. motion, pleading, petition
interfere vs. interference
wrongdoer vs. defendant, respondent

 

[bhsmte]

The private side of courts in the common law style I am describing is done using non-statutory language, such as


words vs. terms (Webster’s vs. Black’s)
claim vs. complaint
require vs. request
man aggrieved vs. petitioner, claimant
notice vs. motion, pleading, petition
interfere vs. interference
wrongdoer vs. defendant, respondent

Cool.

Why would i need to acknowledge this private court?

 

[Moxie123]

Because man/woman is superior to a fictional entity like a "person" or a "citizen".

Man created the fiction to serve him, fiction did not create the man.

One can certainly ignore a summons with a court stamp on it. However, there are more serious claims one can bring with bigger price tags.

Common law method is particularly effective with holding accountable public servants and third-party debt collectors as well as getting back stolen property.

 

[bhsmte]

Because man/woman is superior to a fictional entity like a "person" or a "citizen".

Man created the fiction to serve him, fiction did not create the man.

One can certainly ignore a summons with a court stamp on it. However, there are more serious claims one can bring with bigger price tags.

Common law method is particularly effective with holding accountable public servants and third-party debt collectors as well as getting back stolen property.

I will ignore your private court claim. What happens to me?

 

[DaisyDay]

The private side of courts in the common law style I am describing is ,done using non-statutory language, such as


words vs. terms (Webster’s vs. Black’s)
claim vs. complaint
require vs. request
man aggrieved vs. petitioner, claimant
notice vs. motion, pleading, petition
interfere vs. interference
wrongdoer vs. defendant, respondent

Is it possible that you're trying to describe the difference between "civil" and "criminal" courts, but for some reason of your own, using the terms "private" and "public" instead?

 

[Moxie123]

Nope.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Is it possible that you're trying to describe the difference between "civil" and "criminal" courts, but for some reason of your own, using the terms "private" and "public" instead?

I'm 90% certain we're dealing with sovereign citizen tin foil hattery here.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[DaisyDay]

I'm 90% certain we're dealing with sovereign citizen tin foil hattery here.

-CryptoLutheran

Well, I sort of got that at her insistence that other people use special meanings of ordinary words and that that stretched from page one to this page eight, but...I thought I'd throw that in anyway.

 

[durangodawood]

This is how it works.

Any lawful (not legal) claim is based on harm to man or injury/loss of his property.

Let's say your golf ball sailed through my windshield and you refuse to restore my windshield.

I go to you and try to work it out privately. You refuse.

Over 30 days, I send you letters wishing for repair of my windshield. (this is evidence of due process). You refuse.

So I create a claim in claim format, using claim language (not legalese), and also writing the rules of my court, including evidence of due process, sealing the case, then file with the court clerk, getting my own case number and own case file and court date. I take a copy of that and pay a process server to serve you.

If you chose to not show to my court, the administrative hearing officer, my servant, signs the judgment and the sheriff attempts to collect the money. If the money cannot be collected, I sell the judgement.

Lets say you thought it was my golf ball, but in fact it was someone else's. What happens then?

 

[bhsmte]

I'm 90% certain we're dealing with sovereign citizen tin foil hattery here.

-CryptoLutheran

No doubt.

 

[Moxie123]

Lets say you thought it was my golf ball, but in fact it was someone else's. What happens then?

I know it's your golf ball because I saw you swing your golf club and your ball went sailing through my windshield.

I am a witness and will swear to it.

Conjecture has no place in a common law court.

 

[bhsmte]

I know it's your golf ball because I saw you swing your golf club and your ball went sailing through my windshield.

I am a witness and will swear to it.

Conjecture has no place in a common law court.

And if he swears that it wasn't his golf ball, then what?

 

[durangodawood]

I know it's your golf ball because I saw you swing your golf club and your ball went sailing through my windshield.

I am a witness and will swear to it.

Conjecture has no place in a common law court.

What if youre wrong?

Eyewitness certainty turns out wrong all the time. Maybe my ball crossed paths with another, and its the other one that hit your car, yet to you it looked 100% like mine.

So, youve sworn it was mine. Ive sworn it wasnt. What happens next?

 

[Moxie123]

Anyone who mocks me with "You wear a tinfoil hat" or "You're a sovereign citizen" gets a homework assignment that I guarantee they will never read:

1750 Giles Jacob dictionary -- A New Law Dictionary Containing the Interpretation and Definition of Words
1768 Blackstone's Commentary - Commentaries of the Laws of England
1811 Sir Thomas Edlyne Tomlins -- The Law Dictionary, Explaining the Rise, Progress, and Present State of English Law

These books explain what I am trying to share with you, but nobody's getting it, and nobody seems to want to get it.

There are five common law countries where this can be used: England, America, Canada, New Zealand, and Australia.

It's like the elephant chained to the pole for years and years. One day the chain breaks, but the elephant won't move, because he's been chained up for so long, he's in his comfort zone. Walking around is too much for the elephant to handle. I see that in these forums with people complaining about the state of the world, wondering why they have no rights, etc. I come along with chain cutters, and I get mocked. Wow.