How did Calvin get into our discussion of Paul's revelation?That really does not address the problem in Calvinism. You want Calvinism to work despite it not aligning with reality or the real world. Yet, Jesus illustrated spiritual truth with the real world all the time, and He even accepted an extended real world example from the Canaanite woman.
How did Calvin get into our discussion of Paul's revelation?
Do you accept the Biblical meaning of foreknowlege stated in Acts 15:18?You don't seem to accept what 1 Peter 1:1-2 says in that God elects according to foreknowledge.
Oops! . . .typo. . .that's where the confusion is! . .should be Acts 15:18.Again, you quoted Acts 15:8 as saying, “Known to the Lord for ages is his work.” and yet I did not see any translation that says this. What translation are you using that says this for Acts 15:8? It is not in the approved Calvinist ESV. Did you misquote this verse?
Agreed. ..
Previously addressed.Perhaps we are not on the same page of Scripture.
Behold the scene in God's Word:
“And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table. Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.” (Matthew 15:27-28).
Notice Jesus did not correct the woman, and say, “Only I can make parables!” But Jesus actually commended her faith in being great. So Jesus was impressed that she made a parable along with continuing to trust in Jesus. This extended parable she made upon the Lord's parable are real world examples. She is drawing from real life in relating to spiritual truth just as Jesus had done. So this means we can do the same thing. If this is the case (Which I believe it is), then the house of Calvinism will simply crumble all on it's own (if Scripture like this is to be believed).
What does Calvinism have to do with our discussion and my references to Paul's teachings?So if you agree, then you cannot discount your feelings if Jesus had feelings.
That is what I dislike about Calvinism because it teaches a Vulcan centered type Theology whereby moral feelings are bad.
Do you accept the Biblical meaning of foreknowlege stated in Acts 15:18?
Oops! . . .typo. . .that's where the confusion is! . .should be Acts 15:18.
What does Calvinism have to do with our discussion and my references to Paul's teachings?
Feel free to address that point I presented, repeated in the following:Avoidance of my points is not a way to truly get to the truth of what I have been saying with God's Word. Also, nowhere did I agree to your terms in wanting to talk about Paul's revelation. That is something you wanted to do and you never really drove home your point in defense for a denial of free will in choosing God. I was only addressing those verses that I found pertinent to refute your defense of what falls under the umbrella of Calvinism (i.e. a denial of free will in choosing God).
Previously addressed.
Acts 15:18 is the Biblical definition of "foreknowledge;" i.e., God's foreknowledge is of his works, not of man's works.Not sure what your point is in Acts of the Apostles 15:18? How does that help prove your case that men do not have free will in choosing God or that we are Elected against our free will choice? Where in that verse does it imply these things? Yes, God is aware of all His works from the beginning of the world. So God's foreknowledge is in view of His election according to 1 Peter 1:1-2. Not sure how bringing up Acts of the Apostles 15:18 undoes that somehow.
Acts 15:18 is the Biblical definition of "foreknowledge;" i.e., God's foreknowledge is of his works, not of man's works.
Review the record to get it all straight
I'm a Paulist. . .Calvin didn't write Scripture.Nowhere have you demonstrated that Paul's teachings are in denial of man having free will to choose God. Anyways, the moment you step into the realm of denying man's free will in choosing God, you fall into the camp of Calvinism in some way because that is what they teach. Did you believe in the five points of Calvinism?
Acts 15:18 is the Biblical definition of "foreknowledge;" i.e., God's foreknowledge is of his works, not of man's works.
Review the record to get it all straight
I'm a Paulist. . .Calvin didn't write Scripture.
You said:Nor am I responsible for whatever "camp" into which Paul's teachings fall.
I am definitely "of Paul," and not of Apollos, or of Barnabas, or of Matthias, or. . .It is written:
“For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?” (1 Corinthians 3:4).
Then it falls to you to present a coherent and Biblical exegesis to that point.Only a misreading of Romans 9 can lead a person to think Calvinism. No other verses of the Bible really reads like that. Paul is election (not the calvinist version but the election in 1 Peter 1:1-2) to make a point on being saved by God's grace for the Jews.
But assumptions are usually not a good thing, right?Anyways, seeing Paul's teachings do not agree with Calvinism (of which you appear to be teaching by denying free will and teaching feelings are bad like the Vulcans),
I can only assume you need to read Paul's words more closely without the filtered lens of Calvinism getting in the way.
I am definitely "of Paul," and not of Apollos, or of Barnabas, or of Matthias, or. . .
You said:Then it falls to you to present a coherent and Biblical exegesis to that [pint.
You said:But assumptions are not usually a good thing, right?
Both Jesus and the woman spoke metaphorically, neither spoke a parable.No. You didn't. You said that the woman made no parable and yet, I have demonstrated straight from Scripture in Matthew 15 that
the Canaanite woman did make a parable like Jesus did.
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