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Free Will and Deism

Not David

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Getting away from BLM and ACAB (All Cars are Big?)...

So, we believe God gives us free will but God being personal with us and the world would not mean he is interference in a certain way and conflicting with "free will"?

Wouldn't us free will require God being deistic, even when it goes against Church's teaching?
 

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would not mean he is interference in a certain way and conflicting with "free will"?

If God knows before creation that you will do certain things, are you acting out of freewill or according to God's preplanned purpose.
Or is it that God knows what you will do and plans that so you out of freewill do God's plan.

My head hurts.

At the end of the day we serve God.
 
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It’s like having the free will to criticize a perfectly good Star Wars movie. I can only try to help certain clergy see reason, but can’t force them!

interference doesn't refute free will. if you will to jump off of a cliff and I physically stop you, your will isn't being compromised.
 
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It’s like having the free will to criticize a perfectly good Star Wars movie. I can only try to help certain clergy see reason, but can’t force them!

I know, I can't stand it when people criticize Episode V, but it's their choice.
 
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Getting away from BLM and ACAB (All Cars are Big?)...

So, we believe God gives us free will but God being personal with us and the world would not mean he is interference in a certain way and conflicting with "free will"?

Wouldn't us free will require God being deistic, even when it goes against Church's teaching?
What is your definition of "require God being deistic"?
I think there is a language barrier here.

God gave us free will, so we can freely worship and obey Him without restraint.
 
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What is your definition of "require God being deistic"?
I think there is a language barrier here.

God gave us free will, so we can freely worship and obey Him without restraint.
Deistic means "not interfering in human affairs"
 
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Deistic means "not interfering in human affairs"
Thank you very much.
That was very different than what I was thinking.
However, God won't interfere with our choices, but will provide alternative choices to evil.
As it is written..."There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it." (1 Cor 10:13)
God won't force us to follow the escapes He provides from temptation.
But providing them at all seems to define Him as being deistic.
Or do you think differently?

Either way, I thank God for the escapes from temptation.
 
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Who on the face of this planet would be idiotic enough to do that!?!? Best SW film of them all without question!??

I know, I can't stand it when people criticize Episode V, but it's their choice.
 
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