Free ISIS!!!

[ArmenianJohn]

I’m still not following. Is it good or bad to keep Turkey at bay?

Always good to keep Turkey at bay from killing people. Don't you agree? If Trump does that then I support him 100% in doing it. But when he turns the dogs loose to commit ethnic cleansing then I am against it. Is that clearer this time?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

That’s what ArmenianJohn is talking about?

Hard to know exactly what he is talking about.

 

[Tom 1]

One day you will realise that bashing Obama is no longer a valid tactic in political discourse.

There’s some comparison there it seems, the agreement made under Bush and implemented by Obama’s administration didn’t have the desired effect of increasing Iraqi self-government, hence the later decision to go back in and sort out the mess. It’s hard to say the circumstances are the same though, Donald’s off the cuff decision that everyone around him appears to disagree with is pretty alarming. Under Obama there was at least some attempt to make it work: https://www.justsecurity.org/61991/...y-withdrawal-iraq-trumps-syria-disengagement/

 

[ArmenianJohn]

Hard to know exactly what he is talking about.

It is hard when you lack basic reading comprehension skills.

 

[Hammster]

Always good to keep Turkey at bay from killing people. Don't you agree? If Trump does that then I support him 100% in doing it. But when he turns the dogs loose to commit ethnic cleansing then I am against it. Is that clearer this time?

Then at one point you supported Trump. Which explains my first comment.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

We can't remain there forever. Sooner or later the middle east has to straighten out it's own problems. Hopefully when we leave despotic strongman dictators will arise and some semblance of stability will return, as before. Those people are not prepared for democracy or freedom, so let's allow them to return to the way of life that best suits them.

Shouldn't be there in the first place. We created the mess, it's our responsibility (I know a lot of you people hate that word) to clean up our mess before leaving.

It's funny, when we go in to make a mess you folks are all for it but when the mess needs to be cleaned up you say "can't remain there ferever!!!" Maybe if you start supporting and electing people to the US government who don't create messes over there you won't have to worry about cleaning them up.

"Those people" had democracy and freedom until you people screwed everything up, so be careful about saying things on a topic you don't understand at all. Anyway, this kind of anti-Christian sentiment is common among 'Muricans, I'm not surprised by your post.

 

[Hammster]

Hard to know exactly what he is talking about.

Which is why I was asking him.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

It is hard when you lack basic reading comprehension skills.

I did detect a lot of sarcasm and cynicism. Does that count?

 

[ArmenianJohn]

Then at one point you supported Trump. Which explains my first comment.

Oh. OK.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

I did detect a lot of sarcasm and cynicism. Does that count?

Yes.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Shouldn't be there in the first place. We created the mess, it's our responsibility (I know a lot of you people hate that word) to clean up our mess before leaving.

It's funny, when we go in to make a mess you folks are all for it but when the mess needs to be cleaned up you say "can't remain there ferever!!!" Maybe if you start supporting and electing people to the US government who don't create messes over there you won't have to worry about cleaning them up.

"Those people" had democracy and freedom until you people screwed everything up, so be careful about saying things on a topic you don't understand at all. Anyway, this kind of anti-Christian sentiment is common among 'Muricans, I'm not surprised by your post.

How do you propose we straighten out that mess? And what would the proper Christian position be on the matter?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Which is why I was asking him.

So why did you ask me?

 

[Hammster]

So why did you ask me?

I didn’t.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I didn’t.

Sorry, my mistake.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

How do you propose we straighten out that mess? And what would the proper Christian position be on the matter?

Do what it takes to make things right as much as possible. We went in there and opened up killing of innocent civilians by helping terrorists fight against the government. So, to fix that, you reverse course and you support their government and help them fight the terrorists. You also provide whatever restitution you can for destroying so much of their infrastructure and property. You also open up our country to refugees from there who have had their lives ruined and their country ruined to make up for it.

The Christian response is clear in God's Word - "Do unto others as you would have done to you." Well, if some country came into my country and destroyed things I would want them to fix it as much as they can by helping me. I would not want them to leave me open to terrorists after they came in and enabled the terrorists to begin with. So it's very clear what we SHOULD do. Of course, we won't do what we SHOULD do because we only like to exploit other people and take their resources (mammon) but we never want to give to them.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

Then at one point you supported Trump. Which explains my first comment.

Oh and by the way, I was glad when Trump beat Hillary, very glad, and one of the main reasons was because he was far less hawkish on our wars in the middle east. So, yes, I have supported Trump on some things like that, most definitely. But saying he's better than Hillary is not really an endorsement because she's just that bad.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Do what it takes to make things right as much as possible. We went in there and opened up killing of innocent civilians by helping terrorists fight against the government. So, to fix that, you reverse course and you support their government and help them fight the terrorists. You also provide whatever restitution you can for destroying so much of their infrastructure and property. You also open up our country to refugees from there who have had their lives ruined and their country ruined to make up for it.

The Christian response is clear in God's Word - "Do unto others as you would have done to you." Well, if some country came into my country and destroyed things I would want them to fix it as much as they can by helping me. I would not want them to leave me open to terrorists after they came in and enabled the terrorists to begin with. So it's very clear what we SHOULD do. Of course, we won't do what we SHOULD do because we only like to exploit other people and take their resources (mammon) but we never want to give to them.

Don't you think those civilian populations have their responsibility in what happens in their countries? After all it's all one culture over there. As they have said, "You in the west love life, but we love death". Why should we deny them what they love?

Let him that loves death, love death still. Probation is closed.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

Don't you think those civilian populations have their responsibility in what happens in their countries?

Sure they do. But when another country invades and destroys then that invading country has disrupted their ability to be responsible and the invading country is morally wrong and at fault. In this case, that would be America who is morally wrong and at fault.

After all it's all one culture over there.

Where did you get this crazy idea from? Because it's dead wrong.

As they have said, "You in the west love life, but we love death". Why should we deny them what they love?

Who said that? Stop making up crap. I can't even take you seriously when you talk out of your rear end like that with inane nonsense.

Let him that loves death, love death still. Probation is closed.

America is him that loves death and the people who blindly support that, like you, love death still.

Probation? What are you talking about? You sound unhinged by bringing up weird, irrelevant nonsense like that.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Who said that? Stop making up crap. I can't even take you seriously when you talk out of your rear end like that with inane nonsense.

You gotta get out more. This is well known.

"We love death more than you love life!"

Apology accepted.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Where did you get this crazy idea from? Because it's dead wrong.

Islam is as much a culture as it is a religion. Christianity on the other hand is a religion here but not a culture.