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Francisco Franco was a GREAT Man
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<blockquote data-quote="Injured Soldier" data-source="post: 8085403" data-attributes="member: 21305"><p>I told you, what he accomplished with Spain was problems he engineered himself. The destruction of the SCW to the economy wasn't fixed for decades, and Franco conceded a policy of liberalization that a Republican government would have started sooner. So much for his economic success. He kept the Soviets out of a place they didn't want in the first place? Ooooh, tough guy. In fact the only thing I can think Franco actually did well (as opposed to just stealing the credit for actions which had little to do with him) was to keep Spain out of WWII.</p><p></p><p>Paul Preston, <u>The Spanish Civil War, 1936-1939</u>. Read that and you'll see that the Catholic church has 14 well documented killings of Catholic priests by Franco's forces. The nationalists actions against the Basques would greatly increase the number of Catholics killed by the nationalist forces. To date, none of the killers or those who ordered their killings have been excommunicated, none of the victims recieved sainthood. Going to Daily Communion doesn't make you any more a Catholic than going to McDonald's makes you a hamburger. You've swallowed Franco's propaganda hook, line and sinker, friend.</p><p></p><p>I'm saying your ideal of a crime-free, drug-free society was mirrored in the Soviet Union. If you chose to uphold the ideal, you have to accept communist ideals in at least one area.</p><p></p><p>And lastly, the idea that the Soviets were going to invade Europe was propaganda. As it was, Europe invaded the USSR twice in 20 years, and Stalin even made moves AGAINST an offensive attack on Europe.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Injured Soldier, post: 8085403, member: 21305"] I told you, what he accomplished with Spain was problems he engineered himself. The destruction of the SCW to the economy wasn't fixed for decades, and Franco conceded a policy of liberalization that a Republican government would have started sooner. So much for his economic success. He kept the Soviets out of a place they didn't want in the first place? Ooooh, tough guy. In fact the only thing I can think Franco actually did well (as opposed to just stealing the credit for actions which had little to do with him) was to keep Spain out of WWII. Paul Preston, [u]The Spanish Civil War, 1936-1939[/u]. Read that and you'll see that the Catholic church has 14 well documented killings of Catholic priests by Franco's forces. The nationalists actions against the Basques would greatly increase the number of Catholics killed by the nationalist forces. To date, none of the killers or those who ordered their killings have been excommunicated, none of the victims recieved sainthood. Going to Daily Communion doesn't make you any more a Catholic than going to McDonald's makes you a hamburger. You've swallowed Franco's propaganda hook, line and sinker, friend. I'm saying your ideal of a crime-free, drug-free society was mirrored in the Soviet Union. If you chose to uphold the ideal, you have to accept communist ideals in at least one area. And lastly, the idea that the Soviets were going to invade Europe was propaganda. As it was, Europe invaded the USSR twice in 20 years, and Stalin even made moves AGAINST an offensive attack on Europe. [/QUOTE]
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