Francis Appoints ‘Women Clergy’ Advocates to Synod

[JM]

"VATICAN CITY (ChurchMilitant.com) - Pope Francis has appointed as consultors to the Synod on Synodality three women who are pushing for the ordination of female deacons and priests."

Francis Appoints 'Women Clergy' Advocates to Synod

Nominations follow C9 meeting of pope with Anglican female 'bishop'

www.churchmilitant.com

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

"VATICAN CITY (ChurchMilitant.com) - Pope Francis has appointed as consultors to the Synod on Synodality three women who are pushing for the ordination of female deacons and priests."

Francis Appoints 'Women Clergy' Advocates to Synod

Nominations follow C9 meeting of pope with Anglican female 'bishop'

www.churchmilitant.com

Is that a problem?

 

[JM]

Is that a problem?

Only if you're a traditional Catholic.

If you are a progressive bent on altering the Roman Catholic faith to fit whatever the cultural trends and demands are, it shouldn't be a problem at all.

I would also say progressivism is incapable with Christianity in general and liberalism is a separate religion and worldview.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Only if you're a traditional Catholic.

If you are a progressive bent on altering the Roman Catholic faith to fit whatever the cultural trends and demands are, it shouldn't be a problem at all.

I would also say progressivism is incapable with Christianity in general and liberalism is a separate religion and worldview.

Hmmmm. my Lord Jesus broke the tradition of the religious right and rebuked those who were more concerned with tradition than with truth.

 

[Merrill]

Within a few years, the Catholic Church could either appoint women as Deacons, or even ordain them as priests ...that would be pretty radical.

But while I reject the idea of women as priests and pastors as a general rule, I do wonder about the following scenario:

if a male priest / pastor is not available, can a religiously-trained woman issue sacraments or even conduct a service / mass? What if someone needs last-rights?

it is an interesting theological question.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Within a few years, the Catholic Church could either appoint women as Deacons, or even ordain them as priests ...that would be pretty radical.

But while I reject the idea of women as priests and pastors as a general rule, I do wonder about the following scenario:

if a male priest / pastor is not available, can a religiously-trained woman issue sacraments or even conduct a service / mass? What if someone needs last-rights?

it is an interesting theological question.

Plus...you do not read about women sexually abuse children.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Within a few years, the Catholic Church could either appoint women as Deacons, or even ordain them as priests ...that would be pretty radical.

I thought they already had female deacons. Maybe I'm forgetting what a deacon is, or I was never sure.

It doesn't seem radical to not exclude persons from a job for their gender.

But while I reject the idea of women as priests and pastors as a general rule, I do wonder about the following scenario:

if a male priest / pastor is not available, can a religiously-trained woman issue sacraments or even conduct a service / mass? What if someone needs last-rights?

it is an interesting theological question.

No, it isn't that interesting, even for theology.

 

[RileyG]

Within a few years, the Catholic Church could either appoint women as Deacons, or even ordain them as priests ...that would be pretty radical.

But while I reject the idea of women as priests and pastors as a general rule, I do wonder about the following scenario:

if a male priest / pastor is not available, can a religiously-trained woman issue sacraments or even conduct a service / mass? What if someone needs last-rights?

it is an interesting theological question.

It won't happen. Pope John Paul II closed women being ordained idea once and for all in 1994.

 

[RileyG]

I thought they already had female deacons. Maybe I'm forgetting what a deacon is, or I was never sure.

It doesn't seem radical to not exclude persons from a job for their gender.

No, it isn't that interesting, even for theology.

There are no female deacons. There were female deaconess in the early Church that helped supported during women during Baptism etc, but none currently in either the Catholic or Orthodox Church.

 

[RileyG]

It happens. It's very, very rare, but it happens. Ever heard of the poet Anne Sexton who sexually abused her own daughters?

 

[Hans Blaster]

There are no female deacons. There were female deaconess in the early Church that helped supported during women during Baptism etc, but none currently in either the Catholic or Orthodox Church.

I guess I don't know what a deacon is then. Our parishes only ever had just the one priest on staff (and sometimes shared him), no nuns or deacons.

 

[Merrill]

It happens. It's very, very rare, but it happens. Ever heard of the poet Anne Sexton who sexually abused her own daughters?

Marion Zimmer Bradley was also an abuser

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Only if you're a traditional Catholic.

If you are a progressive bent on altering the Roman Catholic faith to fit whatever the cultural trends and demands are, it shouldn't be a problem at all.

I would also say progressivism is incapable with Christianity in general and liberalism is a separate religion and worldview.

Do you also reject the Church’s adoption of the heliocentric model of the solar system?

 

[durangodawood]

I dont see the males as having done that great a job in caretaking the church... or its flock.

 

[RileyG]

I guess I don't know what a deacon is then. Our parishes only ever had just the one priest on staff (and sometimes shared him), no nuns or deacons.

It's an ordained clergyman who assists the priest with the liturgy.

 

[RileyG]

Marion Zimmer Bradley was also an abuser

I never heard of her.

 

[Hans Blaster]

It's an ordained clergyman who assists the priest with the liturgy.

Sounds like a priest. Never seen a double priest show in person.

 

[RileyG]

Do you also reject the Church’s adoption of the heliocentric model of the solar system?

Not the same thing. The sacrament of holy orders itself is reserved for men only. If you aren't Catholic, this doesn't concern you.

 

[RileyG]

Sounds like a priest. Never seen a double priest show in person.

He cannot celebrate the Mass, hear confessions, etc. He can be married with a family. He can witness marriage and performs weddings (and baptisms), read the Gospel, and preach.

 

[Hans Blaster]

He cannot celebrate the Mass, hear confessions, etc. He can be married with a family. He can witness marriage and performs weddings, read the Gospel, and preach.

I thought you had to be single to be ordained.