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FOX Judge says "there is something in the report."

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Fox Judge Napolitano says that there is evidence of conspiracy in the Mueller report and evidence against consipiracy in it, which is why Trump doesn't want it released.

It will prove that TRUMP IS A RUSSIAN SPY!!

At worst, a Russian asset, I think. It's still an open question, as to why he was so subservient to Putin:
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Michael Cohen’s latest guilty plea revealed a closely guarded Trump business secret. But in a deeply uncomfortable turn for President Donald Trump, one of the people in the know was an aide to Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Thursday’s dramatic turn of events is problematic for Trump because it suggests the Kremlin knew something that people around Trump were working hard to hold close -- that Trump was moving forward with a Moscow business deal at the same time he was deep in the race for the U.S. presidency. Any undisclosed foreign arrangements would raise red flags about candidates for national office, making them vulnerable to blackmail by others privy to those secrets. Russians call such nuggets of damaging information “kompromat,” a concept that’s become familiar enough to enter the international lexicon.
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Fox news has its own judiciary?

The Judge is a regular there. He's more libertarian than most of the pro-Russian commentators on Fox, and he goes against the party line on a regular basis.
 
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One thing that I heard is that there was not enough evidence found to warrant prosecuting Donald Trump. But there also was not enough evidence to prove him innocent.

But, also, there was some material discovered which can be used in other investigations.

So, if I am prejudiced to condemn Donald, I can make an issue of how there is not absolute proof found of his innocence.

But if I want to think he is totally innocent, I can point at how they have not proven him guilty.

Or, I can admit that I am not a personal witness of anything to do with all this, plus I do not personally know each investigator and opponent and witness and reporter in the case of Donald so I can know who is really reliable and who isn't.

I do know that by the U.S. Constitution I am required to presume him innocent until a court of law finds him guilty. Also, I am not to judge any present case by his past performances > what he has done in the past does not prove if he has done anything since those past things. This goes for us who consider ourselves obligated to uphold the United States Constitution . . . if I understand it right.

Also, Jesus expects us to forgive and pray blessing to any and all enemies . . . like He our example did on the cross > "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do." (in Luke 23:34) > this is what I understand, anyway > Ephesians 4:32 with Ephesians 5:2.

And "first of all" we are exhorted to pray "for all men" > 1 Timothy 2:1-4. So, in dealing with any issue I have with any person, I see that God expects me "first of all" to have hope of love and prayer "for all men" > love "hopes all things" (in 1 Corinthians 13:7).

So, we need to make sure we don't get tricked away from doing what our Apostle Paul says to do "first of all".
 
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Healthcare & Food security for all, Shelter for the homeless, subsidized undergraduate education... oh the HORROR!

IF Trump was a Russian plant, and it were to be exposed, the entire GOP would lose, Radical Dems win, and we sink into socialism hard and fast.

Flush a toilet today?

Congratulations! You're a Socialist.
 
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IF Trump was a Russian plant, and it were to be exposed, the entire GOP would lose, Radical Dems win, and we sink into socialism hard and fast.
The meeting in Trump Towers concerning the Russians providing "dirt" on Hilary and attended by Don Jr, Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort provides confirmation that the Trump Campaign was actively conspiring with foreign interests to subvert the 2016 Election.

For this President to state publically that he is taking the word of Vladimir Putin while ignoring the consensus reached by all 17 of America's of intelligence agencies, is a graphic demonstration of where his loyalties lie!

This President may not be a "Russian plant" per se, but he was, and is, a willing partner in an unholy "marriage of convenience" seeking money and power!
 
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Healthcare & Food security for all, Shelter for the homeless, subsidized undergraduate education... oh the HORROR!



Flush a toilet today?

Congratulations! You're a Socialist.

What I am learning is that most policies do the opposite of what they intend. We already have healthcare (Medicare/Medicaid) and food (WIC, SNAP) securities, homeless shelters, and FAFSA subsidizes undergraduate education. It's not your job to pay for my education, nor vice versa. If you want to donate to my education, you should be welcomed, but definitely not forced.

I tell you what I'm beginning to believe is the most fair route: Raise taxes on all Democrats: You want these programs so badly, so willing to charge the fees to the masses, then you pay for them. It's the equitable solution. When they fail, innocent people's financially livelihoods; those who knew these programs would fail and did not vote for them, aren't ruined based on poor decisions based on virtue signals. We conservatives will stick to leveraging churches and charities to care for the poor and find people jobs.
 
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What I am learning is that most policies do the opposite of what they intend. We already have healthcare (Medicare/Medicaid) and food (WIC, SNAP) securities, homeless shelters, and FAFSA subsidizes undergraduate education.
Which is Socialism. Looks like you are admitting the USA is ALREADY a socialist country.

It's not your job to pay for my education, nor vice versa. If you want to donate to my education, you should be welcomed, but definitely not forced.

Is it your Job to pay for my Highways?
Sidewalks?
Military?
Police/ Fire dept?
Is it my Job to pay for yours?

I tell you what I'm beginning to believe is the most fair route: Raise taxes on all Democrats: You want these programs so badly, so willing to charge the fees to the masses, then you pay for them. It's the equitable solution. When they fail, innocent people's financially livelihoods; those who knew these programs would fail and did not vote for them, aren't ruined based on poor decisions based on virtue signals. We conservatives will stick to leveraging churches and charities to care for the poor and find people jobs.

You act as if you don't get any benefit from the commons. what a farce.

You would be stuck in the mud without the mandatory investment of me and everyone else in the essential goods and services that you leach off of every day.

No wonder you want only democrats to pay for all your free stuff.
Typical conservative mantra... privatize the profits, socialize the costs.
 
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Which is Socialism. Looks like you are admitting the USA is ALREADY a socialist country.

That's not socialism. Socialism isn't when government "does stuff," but when government usurps an entire industry and nationalizes


Is it your Job to pay for my Highways?
Sidewalks?
Military?
Police/ Fire dept?
Is it my Job to pay for yours?

Most of those things, at least at the state level, are contracted out to private companies. It's corporatism, which actually I'm firmly against, but it's not the government completely taking over a certain industry in your examples.

You act as if you don't get any benefit from the commons. what a farce.

It's not about me and my own personal benefit. It's about having a sustainable economy verses taxing people into oblivion.

You would be stuck in the mud without the mandatory investment of me and everyone else in the essential goods and services that you leach off of every day.

I absolutely would be. I support your financial and economic liberty from forced tax-funded programs as much as I would myself, or the poor, or even the rich.

No wonder you want only democrats to pay for all your free stuff.

Then y'all go right ahead. I'm not stopping you. Just don't reach into my pocket and the pockets of the poor to do so. We don't have much more to spare.

Typical conservative mantra... privatize the profits, socialize the costs.

See above. I oppose corporatism at nearly all levels; especially at the service level. Sure, the government needs to buy products, but the provisioning of services where projects and budgets are continually overrun because corporations are not held accountable is solved by having the separation of corporation and tax dollars.
 
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President Donald Trump looks -- and is acting -- rattled and encircled by the Russia investigation. And a series of fresh disclosures on Tuesday show there is every reason for him to feel threatened by the vast shadow it is casting over his life, business and presidency.
Newly unsealed court documents detailing special counsel Robert Mueller's activity reveal an investigative field of breathtaking scope and a prosecutorial machine that ratcheted quickly up in mid-2017.
The search warrants targeting Trump's ex-personal lawyer Michael Cohen offer a glimpse of the covert world of the probe. As is often the case with Mueller, they give only a tantalizing hint of the wider, yet still hidden, puzzle.

The pages of warrants make clear that the investigation into whether the Trump Organization is implicated in the campaign finance case involving his hush money payments to women before the 2016 election is still open.
Eighteen-and-a-half blacked-out pages at the end of one document under the title "The Illegal Campaign Contribution Scheme" almost certainly contain details of Trump's interactions with Cohen.
That prosecutors from the Southern District of New York believe those elements need to be kept out of the public eye suggests that their investigations -- which have already indirectly implicated Trump -- are not over.
"They are not done. We have seen this in filings over and over again," Preet Bharara, a former US attorney for the Southern District of New York, told CNN's Jake Tapper.
So Trump cannot yet be sure whether his family members or top business associates in his firm could face criminal jeopardy.
For the President, who seeks to exert dominance over every room, situation or relationship, the lack of control over the fate of his own clan and the business that bears his name as prosecutors bear down must be close to intolerable.
Some legal observers see the work of the Southern District as Trump's most perilous legal front, even more so than Mueller's look at whether there was coordination between Trump campaign aides and Russia and whether the President obstructed justice to cover it up.
While a sitting President cannot be indicted, according to current Justice Department guidance, Trump cannot be certain that he will not be prosecuted for campaign finance violations when he eventually leaves office.
"If I was Donald Trump, I would be scared," Democratic Rep. Ted Lieu of California, who sits on the House Judiciary Committee, said on CNN's "The Situation Room."
New Mueller investigation revelations explain Trump's rage - CNNPolitics

It appears that Judge Napolitano called it right.
 
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