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Why are there racist attitudes?
Why are there sexist attitudes?
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Why are there racist attitudes?Andy, WHY are there "prejudicial attitudes" about homosexuality AND homosexuals that has spanned human history?
The 800-pound gorilla is in the room.
Its very sad. And the worst attack is to deny that they are familiesBolding mine.
What I bolded got me thinking. Other goups have been enslaved. The 200 years part may not be the greatest part of what caused the damage. That may well go to systematic destruction of Black family groups during that time.
A bit ironic in that the gays seem to have suffered that part for a still longer time and are to this day. People are still trying to destroy/prevent gay family groups.
The original question asked, what African Americans thought of the article.Wait, the original question was about people in general, not homosexuals.
"No parallels between movements for rights is exact. African-Americans are the only Americans who were enslaved for more than two centuries, and people of color carry the badge of who we are on our faces. But we are far from the only people suffering discrimination -- sadly, so do many others. They deserve the law's protection and they deserve civil rights too. Sexual disposition parallels race -- I was born black and I had no choice. I couldn't and wouldn't change if I could. Like race, our sexuality isn't a preference -- it is immutable, unchangeable, and the Constitution protects us against prejudices based on immutable differences"
-Julian Bond - Chair of the NAACP
It seems that the leaders of the civil rights movement dont support the premise of the essay you linked us to and they dont support your desire to use them to justify your own prejudices either
And it seems the responses have not been to the OP posters liking very much.The original question asked, what African Americans thought of the article.
There are some things similar, there are some things different. If one is insisting they are the same, then that person really is being idiotic. The question is on where each issue falls. Is this something they are alike in, or different, and thus do they make a good or bad analogy?
And we needed another gay thread why?
In all fairness I've only seen people with relationships to homosexuals post in here, who seem to be in disagreement with the article.And it seems the responses have not been to the OP posters liking very much.
It seems that those people of color who don't agree are "out of touch"
So you've never been to a public school?
I do.
I have had experience of teachers who showed open contempt for children who were, or who were assumed to be, homosexual.
Wait, the original question was about people in general, not homosexuals.
No individual group owns civil rights, nobody can "hijack" them unless they are trying to take them away from others by claiming they own them, so basically the authoris of this statement want to hijack civil rights themselves.
Mildred Loving was in favor of equal rights for all. My daughter is in favor of equal rights for all. My husband is in favor of equal rights for all, my son is in favor of equal rights for all. Who says the cogic members are all Christian, and who says they get to decide who has a valid claim to equal rights.
Civil Rights apply to everyone, not only one group of people.
I found the reasoning to be specious at best, and inflammatory at it's worst.
Slavery was really bad, agreed. I don't see how that translates into "So because homosexuals where not as persecuted (which is debatable) the two cases are not on equivalent footing. I can look at the two cases and see the parallels. Are they equal? No. But that does not mean they do not deserve equal rights the same as anyone else.
In what way does the fact that SOME of the people looking for rights being white make this about white privilege?
Homosexuals are still capable of procreation and a persons sexual orientation does nothing to change the "unitive" (is this a word?) function of marriage.
Correta Scott King thinks that the case of black civil rights and gay civil rights are on the same footing. Apparently she has been corrupted by a white special interest group. How is this not blatantly racist again?
It seems that the leaders of the civil rights movement dont support the premise of the essay you linked us to and they dont support your desire to use them to justify your own prejudices either
The original question asked, what African Americans thought of the article.
And it seems the responses have not been to the OP posters liking very much.
It seems that those people of color who don't agree are "out of touch"
And it seems the responses have not been to the OP posters liking very muchIt seems that neither Mrs. King nor Mr. Bond are in touch with what the majority of African Americans believe. That doesn't mean they are wrong, but it does mean that they are not necessarily a good representation of those they claim to represent.
And it seems the responses have not been to the OP posters liking very much
The chair of the NAACP is out of touch because he doesnt agree with you?
Is Mr. Lewis out of touch?
No he is stating a fact in this quote. He is not however stating that the basis for the discrimination is the same, nor is he attempting to equate the two movements.Im sure you think he is out of touch too
"I'd be disappointed if we did not approve this resolution. I think it would be consistent with our historic spirit of fairness and justice. But it also would be consistent with the spirit of grace and mercy as the path to peace and that you judge not that you not be judged." Andrew Young, Mayor of
Atlanta
"Surrounded as I am now by wonderful children and grandchildren, not a day goes by that I don't think of Richard and our love, our right to marry, and how much it meant to me to have that freedom to marry the person precious to me, even if others thought he was the 'wrong kind of person' for me to marry. I believe all Americans, no matter their race, no matter their sex, no matter their sexual orientation, should have that same freedom to marry. Government has no business imposing some people's religious beliefs over others. Especially if it denies people's civil rights. Mildred Loving
"Marriage is a basic human right. You cannot tell people they cannot fall in love. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. used to say when people talked about interracial marriage, and I quote, "Races do not fall in love and get married. Individuals fall in love and get married." ~Rep.John Lewis of Georgia before Congress on the Defense of Marriage Act, 7/1/96
Discrimination against LGBT people tears at the fabric of the Constitution and weakens all of our rights. Today's landmark decision is good for America.
We must do everything possible to support families - including lesbian and gay families. All of us - regardless of sexual orientation - stand to benefit from equal marriage rights because stable families strengthen our communities and neighborhoods. Former Senator Carol Mosley Brown
Im sure you think all of these people are out of touch as well
Based on behavior sort of like religion which is based on behavior so I guess civil rights for religious minorities must be wrong as well.If they are arguing that discrimination based upon behavior equates to discrimination based upon an inherent characteristic yes.
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