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What do you mean?
What..?
What kind of Bible do you use?
Genesis 1
You mean you mix problematic naturalistic models with Genesis.I use the King James Version of Scripture and the online Blue Letter Bible to access the original Hebrew and Greek meanings of the words. I read the Bible for what it says and not for what another tells me it says. I support my views with the agreement of Scripture science and history. God Bless you
You mean you mix problematic naturalistic models with Genesis.
No wonder it doesn't make sense.
May God bless you to.
No amen from me on that, sorry...
Did i say that?Do you actually believe that there is one truth for God and another for science and history?
I understand. Sorry for the knee jerk reaction. I have just had so many people disregard a point I have made or facts I have presented due to my information coming from You Tube.When I'm at work, I can occasionally browse the forums*, but I can't watch youtube videos (or at least, can't listen to the sound). I'm sure there are others. Youtube videos also don't allow you the courtesy of skimming to the relevant bits, unless the person linking to the video does it for you. Not that youtube is inherently a poor source, but it, like all sources, should be taken with a grain of salt.
*Have you ever tried installing Autodesk software on an old computer? Takes forever.
I agree. It may be advantageous to advise the time in the video where the point is presented in the video. This would save time and allow the information to be located. Some times You Tube is the only access to a certain, specific, point being made by a certain source and there are no other options.You're right, there is a wealth of information on youtube, much of it valid and well presented. Personally, I don't feel it's of much use in an online debate such as this one though. I'm sure no one's got a problem with members suggesting recommended viewing, if someone makes an assertion though and then posts an hour long video when asked to present evidence of their claim, why should whoever's arguing with them have to spend an hour watching the video, taking notes , checking facts and forming rebuttals to an hour's worth of presentation. It's lazy debating.
What an impressive amount of evidence you've provided to back up your assertions! Well shoot, it sure is a good thing that the vast, vast majority of PhD biologists, geologists, physicists, chemists, <insert any more fields you think have some sort of global, century-long conspiracy to hide the truth> stay in academia after they've finished their degrees, never do any experiments or expeditions while in academia, never go out to do any science of their own, and certainly avoid research that can test and potentially prove the leading hypotheses wrong or the creationist PRATTs correct.
Wait, hold on, I'm being informed that's not what happens at all. Also the guy who informed me seemed to have a bit of a nasty temper about the issue. Rather, many of these people spend an awful lot of time working in the field, applying what they've learned to do things like, say, discover oil.
http://ageofrocks.org/2015/02/08/can-young-earth-creationists-find-oil/
Every major oil company employs kinetic models in their search for hydrocarbons, based on the techniques that I have described above. Since these models assume that we correctly know the age of rocks and their temperature history, petroleum exploration provides us with millions of ongoing scientific tests, which collectively could disprove the conventional geologic timescale and confirm the young-Earth paradigm.
Of course, they don’t.
Instead, the widespread success of oil and gas exploration is perhaps the greatest testament to the accuracy of our age estimates. If the geologic column were created within the past 6,000 years, then no oil or gas should be found today, for the same reason you can’t make a medium-rare pot roast in only 30 seconds. By asserting that the age of rocks is somehow irrelevant to exploration techniques, Dr. Snelling has essentially told every cook to throw out their timers. But I think you all know better than this, and for that matter, so does Andrew Snelling.
Or help treat deadly diseases:
Or find out more about our planet. The fact of the matter is that if your conspiracy theory (and it's up there with the "aliens did 9/11" folks, make no mistake) held up, we would not see useful results from the science. But we do. I mean, what do you expect? Science is typically results-driven. In fact, it's exactly this kind of work in the field that led Glenn Morton to realize that young earth creationism was intellectually bankrupt, and very nearly led him to abandon his faith altogether. But of course, the reason why every university in the world teaches this stuff and not a single one uses ICR as a source is because they're all just anti-Christian. Riiiiight.
Did i say that?
You know what i said.
You need discernment.
You should make yourself aware of the problems the naturalistic paradigm has, not just mix it with the Word of God.
Your rendition of Genesis is not Biblical.
Well, that me be the case in some situations. However, I have friends who have two sons. Each went to university and stayed there.... period. Took their courses, got their degrees kept going for further study and now are tenured professors....teaching the course which they studied. Neither ever worked in a real life job outside the academic umbrella.....
So, what exactly do they have to offer the students paying exorbitant amounts of money? Regurgitated information that is nothing more than recycled every year after year and controlled by the powers that be and financially control academia....and certainly not anything new that would upset the smoothly oiled machine of "empirical scientific "fact", or change anything in a way that would incite the student to ask questions about the information they are being fed, or, heaven forbid, suggest anything other than whats on the well worn path of the curriculum.
Garbage in Garbage out.... repeat.
Well, I may not be 100% solid on my explanation of how universities are run. However, the grads I see that come through our doors and into our field are all theory and full of spunk to set the world right. That is until they realize that the processes we use in our field... almost all the time..... the test sample never read the text book. They expect A + B = C and find that A + B = 4. Then it's like "we were never taught that". The real world is much different than their school environment.Sometimes it happens. It's less common in STEM fields (because when a person's research can help you find your next multi-million-dollar oil well, the going rate tends to be pretty decent), but it happens. So what? Does this somehow invalidate everyone else? And furthermore, did these sons never do any research in the field? I find it downright impossible to believe that they were accepted for tenure without any new research. I mean, do you even know what goes into applying for tenure? It's fiercely competitive, and it is expected that you produce useful research - otherwise, there's no point in giving you tenure. So this doesn't really help your point - even if they never left the system, their work must necessarily have brought them to a point where the model either works... or doesn't.
http://physics.columbia.edu/files/physics/content/Qual_Mech- Section 1.pdf
They are given nothing more than "regurgitated information recycled every year", so it should be trivial for you to find what you need to solve the problem (without looking at the attached answers, of course). They were given, on average, about 20 minutes per question - could you solve any question there in that time with an open book? Could you solve any question there in the full two hours given for the test with an open book?
Students at university are not simply given regurgitated information. I spent enough time at university myself to figure this one out. They're taught methods, shown how to learn effectively, and given access to a vast wealth of information. And that's without even getting into the opportunities for real scientific research in most STEM fields. You have no understanding of what university is or what it has to offer, yet you still somehow see fit to repeat the claim that it doesn't allow dissent (completely ignoring my response to your last post), that it's just about regurgitating facts, and all the other crap you bring up.
Except, of course, that science has ways to detect and correct this cycle. If evolution didn't work, we wouldn't be able to go out into the field and find things like Tiktaalik. If the earth were 6,000 years old, geologists would not be able to accurately predict where to find oil based on information pertaining to an earth that is billions of years old. These theories are not stuck in stasis; they are constantly being put forward for falsification. The reason the counter-arguments put forward by your side haven't accomplished anything is because your side is intellectually bankrupt, and the arguments hold less water than an incontinent octogenarian drunkard on Lozol. With a pierced jugular. I mean, just to be clear here - ICR is still hawking the same inane "lost squadron" argument that was debunked decades ago and trivially wrong.
Oh, and by the way? You still have provided absolutely no evidence or reasoning to back up any of your claims. Please do so. Or retract your claims. Then again, I won't hold my breath.
The same one as you. Aman777 has the best bible interpretation... when what you are looking for is a wild ride of a good read. I wish he would do what he does with Genesis with the whole thing.What..?
What kind of Bible do you use?
Genesis 1
Regardless as to how sacrilegious you view it, you have to admit, it draws you in, and you want to keep reading it just for the fact of how novel it is. In my opinion, it makes for a much more fun read than the actual bible.Did i say that?
You know what i said.
You need discernment.
You should make yourself aware of the problems the naturalistic paradigm has, not just mix it with the Word of God.
Your rendition of Genesis is not Biblical.
Hmm, I wonder what the Aman777 version of Revelation would be like?The same one as you. Aman777 has the best bible interpretation... when what you are looking for is a wild ride of a good read. I wish he would do what he does with Genesis with the whole thing.
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