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I propose that we keep our rules in this section simple and to the point, allowing for open communication among people, but providing guidelines for dealing trouble.
We do not share a core set of beliefs here as ND people, other than being Christians, which we had to agree to to join as Christians at CF.
ND DEFINITION: ND is also such a broad term, that it is hard to define such, to determine who is coming in as ND in their mindset (icon aside) and who is not.
VOTING RULES: Concerning voting, however, for governing this forum together, we need to agree first that only those having an ND icon because they are a part of an ND assembly, can vote. If a person with the ND icon becomes a recognized trouble maker, bringing in strife among us, then there should be a rule to remove their voting right, and if necessary, even their posting (to discuss, debate, or teach) rights banned from this ND forum.
Colossians 4:5-6 MKJV Walk in wisdom toward those on the outside, redeeming the time. (6) Let your speech be always with grace, having been seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer each one.
Colossians 3:8-9 MKJV But now also put off all these things: anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, shameful speech out of your mouth. (9) Do not lie to one another, having put off the old man with his deeds
PROPER AND IMPROPER POSTING:
1. Speaking angrily toward one another, causing strife, will not be accepted. No personal attacks.
2. Pronouncing personal judgment via personal attacks will not be accepted here. Judgments made with witnesses and proof for the good of the group are not personal attacks, and will be made against rule breakers.
3. Speaking against God will not be accepted here, for any reason. Posts may be reported and deleted.
4. Vulgar speech will not be accepted here, to avoid offending or being a stumbling block to others. Posts containing vulgar speech will be dealt with by the general membership on a case by case basis. If at least two or three witnesses believe a post is vulgar, the matter is established, the post may be reported, and then deleted. If the person repents and edits there own post, the post will not be deleted.
5. In keeping to redeeming the time well, endless debating back and forth between people is strongly discouraged. Those who do so continually, when it is stirring up strife among the brethren, can lose their posting rights. This will only be done for this particular rule through a due process, of the matter being taken before the whole forum that "insert name" continually comes in and debates in a manner that causes frustration and strife among us, and that the voting membership will now vote concerning whether to allow the poster to continue, or to ban them from posting in this section. A majority vote is required, among the voting membership, for a judgment.
PERSONAL ATTACKS: We are to guard against being easily offended, and being over-sensitive to others disagreeing with us in their statements. IT IS NOT PERSONAL and is not to be taken as such, unless a direct personal attack against the actual person is clearly stated. Those who do actually begin personally attacking others will be given grace to repent, but if they will not ask for forgiveness and repent, their posting rights here will be suspended.
An example of a personal attack is, "You idiot! You're such a retard! I can't believe you are so stupid!!"
Any such posting will not be tolerated - posts will be reported by the others here, and posts deleted ASAP.
An example of what is not a personal attack, but if someone allows it, it could offend: "That is messed up theology! I don't know where you get that junk from!"
Such is not attacking the person, it is disagreeing boldly with a point of view. We are not to take disagreement with our point of view as personal, and get personally offended over it. We are to be good witnesses, that are long-suffering and kind, here to serve others, and not just ourselves.
Theological disagreements are to be handled per case in the threads, by the ND forum participants. We are not afraid of what we see as false theology coming in here, because we have not been given a spirit of fear, but rather of power, love, and a sound mind. If the theology is truly false, it can be shown to be so from the Scriptures, and we should not be afraid of such discussions.
THE SCRIPTURES: To enter into theological or doctrinal discussion, debate, or teaching, one must agree that the Scriptures (Bible) is the foundation for correct doctrine and theology, and that all doctrine and theology must first be founded in the Scriptures. If you cannot agree to this, you cannot debate or teach, but you may fellowship and ask questions here.
If you prove by your posts that you do not believe this, because you continue to argue for non-scriptural doctrine or theology, or another book as the authority, your posting rights to discuss, debate, or teach may be revoked.
An example of this is posting with a Book of Mormon doctrinal or theological point, that is not also in the Scriptures (Bible) accepted by most Christians. However, anyone can quote from any literary source, as long as they are not using it for the foundation of doctrine and theology to teach or debate.
These are just some simple thoughts on it. It seems harder to come up with rules for here because of the ND differences already, that denominational forums don't have. I'm just typing out as I thought of such in rough draft form. If you see parts that need edited or modified somehow - speak up. If you have another idea altogether, speak up. We just need to get the ball rolling.
The first order of business even before we finish the rest of the rule set, is to agree on the voting rules, concerning who can vote here, and who cannot vote. Then, once that is in place, we can move on and start coming up with the rules and voting on them. And if in the future we see something needs added to the rules, or taken away, we can vote for that also.
We do not share a core set of beliefs here as ND people, other than being Christians, which we had to agree to to join as Christians at CF.
ND DEFINITION: ND is also such a broad term, that it is hard to define such, to determine who is coming in as ND in their mindset (icon aside) and who is not.
VOTING RULES: Concerning voting, however, for governing this forum together, we need to agree first that only those having an ND icon because they are a part of an ND assembly, can vote. If a person with the ND icon becomes a recognized trouble maker, bringing in strife among us, then there should be a rule to remove their voting right, and if necessary, even their posting (to discuss, debate, or teach) rights banned from this ND forum.
Colossians 4:5-6 MKJV Walk in wisdom toward those on the outside, redeeming the time. (6) Let your speech be always with grace, having been seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer each one.
Colossians 3:8-9 MKJV But now also put off all these things: anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, shameful speech out of your mouth. (9) Do not lie to one another, having put off the old man with his deeds
PROPER AND IMPROPER POSTING:
1. Speaking angrily toward one another, causing strife, will not be accepted. No personal attacks.
2. Pronouncing personal judgment via personal attacks will not be accepted here. Judgments made with witnesses and proof for the good of the group are not personal attacks, and will be made against rule breakers.
3. Speaking against God will not be accepted here, for any reason. Posts may be reported and deleted.
4. Vulgar speech will not be accepted here, to avoid offending or being a stumbling block to others. Posts containing vulgar speech will be dealt with by the general membership on a case by case basis. If at least two or three witnesses believe a post is vulgar, the matter is established, the post may be reported, and then deleted. If the person repents and edits there own post, the post will not be deleted.
5. In keeping to redeeming the time well, endless debating back and forth between people is strongly discouraged. Those who do so continually, when it is stirring up strife among the brethren, can lose their posting rights. This will only be done for this particular rule through a due process, of the matter being taken before the whole forum that "insert name" continually comes in and debates in a manner that causes frustration and strife among us, and that the voting membership will now vote concerning whether to allow the poster to continue, or to ban them from posting in this section. A majority vote is required, among the voting membership, for a judgment.
PERSONAL ATTACKS: We are to guard against being easily offended, and being over-sensitive to others disagreeing with us in their statements. IT IS NOT PERSONAL and is not to be taken as such, unless a direct personal attack against the actual person is clearly stated. Those who do actually begin personally attacking others will be given grace to repent, but if they will not ask for forgiveness and repent, their posting rights here will be suspended.
An example of a personal attack is, "You idiot! You're such a retard! I can't believe you are so stupid!!"
Any such posting will not be tolerated - posts will be reported by the others here, and posts deleted ASAP.
An example of what is not a personal attack, but if someone allows it, it could offend: "That is messed up theology! I don't know where you get that junk from!"
Such is not attacking the person, it is disagreeing boldly with a point of view. We are not to take disagreement with our point of view as personal, and get personally offended over it. We are to be good witnesses, that are long-suffering and kind, here to serve others, and not just ourselves.
Theological disagreements are to be handled per case in the threads, by the ND forum participants. We are not afraid of what we see as false theology coming in here, because we have not been given a spirit of fear, but rather of power, love, and a sound mind. If the theology is truly false, it can be shown to be so from the Scriptures, and we should not be afraid of such discussions.
THE SCRIPTURES: To enter into theological or doctrinal discussion, debate, or teaching, one must agree that the Scriptures (Bible) is the foundation for correct doctrine and theology, and that all doctrine and theology must first be founded in the Scriptures. If you cannot agree to this, you cannot debate or teach, but you may fellowship and ask questions here.
If you prove by your posts that you do not believe this, because you continue to argue for non-scriptural doctrine or theology, or another book as the authority, your posting rights to discuss, debate, or teach may be revoked.
An example of this is posting with a Book of Mormon doctrinal or theological point, that is not also in the Scriptures (Bible) accepted by most Christians. However, anyone can quote from any literary source, as long as they are not using it for the foundation of doctrine and theology to teach or debate.
These are just some simple thoughts on it. It seems harder to come up with rules for here because of the ND differences already, that denominational forums don't have. I'm just typing out as I thought of such in rough draft form. If you see parts that need edited or modified somehow - speak up. If you have another idea altogether, speak up. We just need to get the ball rolling.
The first order of business even before we finish the rest of the rule set, is to agree on the voting rules, concerning who can vote here, and who cannot vote. Then, once that is in place, we can move on and start coming up with the rules and voting on them. And if in the future we see something needs added to the rules, or taken away, we can vote for that also.
