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[Debi1967]

This is a link to the forums suggestions area.....We have been advised by Erwin that it might be be good to propose the Original proposal of Two new forums One for Non-Sola Scriptura and the other for Sola Scriptura....

These forums are to be added in addition to the Congregational fora
IOW this would change nothing just add more areas....

I am also asking that this please not turn into a thread of contention, I am posting this here because I need to be able to direct my Brethren to this.....Please try to remember that our Lord represents LOVE.....

Thank you all



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[nyj]

These forums are to be added in addition to the Congregational fora
IOW this would change nothing just add more areas....

Speaking as a solitary voice, in no official capacity... I think we have too many fora as it is.

 

[bigsierra]

Everyone can come to OBOB, unless they want to argue, right?

 

[Debi1967]

Everyone can come to OBOB, unless they want to argue, right?

The point is that we would be able to speak on things that are relevant to Non-Sola Scriptura without outside interference ......In alot of the open Theology forums this gets in the way of us having a profitable talk with each other and being able to learn from one another....

Although, we do differ in many things there are still many more things that we do not differ in...and it would benefit us to engage each other to be able to learn from one another...

This is to everyone.............
I will tell you all now openly what I have been feeling for days.....
I am glad that I was not raised a Catholic and that I came to this later in my life...
I am proud to be Catholic and love being Catholic, I love the Lord and I love Rome...

But...
I have not been influenced by the many years of instilled hatred towards my own Brethren....Both sides of this....not just this one...

I know what it fealt like to be raised as it was to Hate Catholicism altogether...to believe that all of you were from the Devil and then to be proved wrong, the reason that happened was because I took the time to see it....I took the time to look beyond my Fear nad Hate that had been instilled in and which I thought I was righteous in...but the fact is I wasn't....

You all taught me there is much to be learned and to open myself to it....Since then I have and my Faith and belief has become stronger for it, even when put to the test it does not waver....I have no fear because of this because all paths have led me back to believing even more strongly that what I see and believe and have Faith in as the Truth is in fact the Truth....So now it is my Journey to learn more and more

Pax Christi
Debi

 

[Carrye]

I know what it fealt like to be raised as it was to Hate Catholicism altogether...to believe that all of you were from the Devil and then to be proved wrong, the reason that happened was because I took the time to see it....I took the time to look beyond my Fear nad Hate that had been instilled in and which I thought I was righteous in...but the fact is I wasn't....

You all taught me there is much to be learned and to open myself to it....Since then I have and my Faith and belief has become stronger for it, even when put to the test it does not waver....I have no fear because of this because all paths have led me back to believing even more strongly that what I see and believe and have Faith in as the Truth is in fact the Truth....So now it is my Journey to learn more and more

In what ways do you think a new forum will address these issues?

 

[MParedon]

I think this new idea will allow more ecumenical talks that won't have the interference or disruptions that would occur if the forum wasn't divided among sola and non-sola scripturists. I think I see the benifits and I support it

 

[Debi1967]

In what ways do you think a new forum will address these issues?

Because simply there are many that do not know why they have resentments towards the other, they simply do....it has been instilled in them....

Take for example White and Black, do you know that if you asked the majority of people nowadays what the real reason is for them having hostility they would be unable to tell you the Original reason...it is something that has been instilled in them because it was passed down to them because it was passed to those that passed it down to them ....we as the laity, do not have everything as why these divisions exist or if the divisions exist because of someone's beliefs or because we really are supposed to think this way....

But even that I have a hard time coming to grips with....WHY would Our Lord want us to have fear our Hatred towards any of our Brethren....

And certainly the only way to bridge any of this is to be able to find out what others believe and think and try to PEACEFULLY,I might add, and with the Christian Charity we have been taught try to bridge the gap by simply UNDERSTANDING the other perspective. This does not mean that we have to convert, or anything like that, it simply means that we open ourselves up the same way Our Lord did so that we can accomplish something unique....and thus learn from each other because there is much that we can learn from each other....

Pax Christi
Debi

 

[Carrye]

we as the laity, do not have everything as why these divisions exist or if the divisions exist because of someone's beliefs or because we really are supposed to think this way....

Thanks Debi.

 

[RhetorTheo]

I thought there is a forum for liberal Christianity? That would be the best place for the "non-sola scriptura" discussions, IMHO. I would think the sola scriptura discussions could go on in fundamentalist or Baptist forums.

Edit: Okay, if this is supposed to be a multi-denominational forum, that's probably fine. This sounds a bit like the EO/RC forum some talked about, but expanded, and to that extent it seems fine. But don't be surprised if the discussions end up being about Mary and the like by "non sola scriptura" people who are anti-Catholic.

 

[Debi1967]

Thanks Debi.

Your point is taken but then again my point of learning from the other was not. I do realize that there is only so much that we can do....but it is a start...something to build off of and if we continually allow ourselves to stay hidden from sight, then how are we to learn.....

How do we learn if not to go and try to find things out...if not to study and to cross-study?

How do you think the Early Church Fathers learned?

Do you think that they knew everything? Do you think that all the Wisdom that we respect and use from them today they just had? Or do you think that they started out like this with the desire to learn, and because of that then they were able to come to the conclusions that they came to?

WE as CATHOLICS are not told to turn off our brains and to stop studying and learning, in fact we are encouraged to study and to learn......

God's Plan and Communion
Ut Unum Sint 6
"The unity of all divided humanity is the will of God. For this reason he sent his Son, so that by dying and rising for us he might bestow on us the Spirit of love. On the eve of his sacrifice on the Cross, Jesus himself prayed to the Father for his disciples and for all those who believe in him, that they might be one, a living communion. This is the basis not only of the duty, but also of the responsibility before God and his plan, which falls to those who through Baptism become members of the Body of Christ, a Body in which the fullness of reconciliation and communion must be made present."



Catechism of the Catholic Church 775
"‘The Church, in Christ, is like a sacrament--a sign and instrument, that is, of communion with God and of unity among all men.' The Church's first purpose is to be the sacrament of the inner union of men with God. Because men's communion with one another is rooted in that union with God, the Church is also the sacrament of the unity of the human race. In her, this unity is already begun, since she gathers men ‘from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and tongues'; at the same time, the Church is the ‘sign and instrument' of the full realization of the unity yet to come."

 

[Maggie893]

WE as CATHOLICS are not told to turn off our brains and to stop studying and learning, in fact we are encouraged to study and to learn......

Personally I don't think the Catholics on this forum turn off their brains and stop studying at all. I, for one, spend a lot of time in other forums to learn and many from other forums come here. I also see many of the Catholics here, effectively sharing their faith in many areas of CF.

In your opening post you asked that this not become a thread of contention. I think that is a good idea. If people on the forum would like to go post their comments on the other thread, they now have that information. If they don't want to then that is their decision.

 

[Carrye]

Your point is taken but then again my point of learning from the other was not. I do realize that there is only so much that we can do....but it is a start...something to build off of and if we continually allow ourselves to stay hidden from sight, then how are we to learn.

I had no point but to ask how you thought the new forum would address the problems you layed out. It was an honest question, and I thanked you for your honest answer.

 

[Joe D]

I'm new here but I think it's a good idea.

 

[bigsierra]

WoW, you are new here.

Welcome Joe D

 

[Joe D]

WoW, you are new here.

Welcome Joe D

Thanks bigsierra

 

[Carrye]

Joe.

 

[stray bullet]

The main thing that concerns me is if the sections could be used as a shelter to make a case against the other...