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Hi I recently became a lutheran in the past year. My backround is non-denomination/pentacostal/charismatic. I just want to hear your stories of how you came to Lutheranism if you have a similar backround as mine. Also any advice for how to talk with family members and friends who think you are crazy now because you are a Lutheran.
 

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The issue is not telling people I'm Lutheran. It's explaining that I'm not a pro-female clergy, homosexual hugging, fine with anyone taking communion "Lutheran".

From Facebook (to me - I was in a heated abortion debate): so you're a lutheran.... well lutherans are supposed to be one of the most accepting religions around. but not you huh? better pick another religion cuz being a lutheran seems not very sutiable to you.

I had to explain the difference between ELCA and LCMS. Mainstream USA doesn't get it because the media doesn't specify.

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On a side note, I was raised Brethren and then attended a C&MA church for over 10 years. Personally I always thought the juice (because that's what they used for communion) was more than just juice, and that is without anyone ever telling me or me trying to research it in the Bible. When I left was when the pastor (who ended up getting fired for having an affair) opened communion up to EVERYONE and I mean EVERYONE. I stopped going for about a year...maybe more. Then my brother started researching denominations. We didn't even try anything other than the LCMS church. Catholics had the whole papal infallibility thing I couldn't get over and Episcopalians were too close to ELCA and the only Reformed one was in a bad section of town, 20 miles away. We did consider Orthodox but the only one we knew of conducted services all in Greek. They have their own issues I can't get over too, though.

In short...Lutherans (true ones) make the most sense. When explaining, they are the first denomination since the Schism. Any "symbolic" theology is new in comparison. You want to go with the most pure (i.e. following scriptures) and unchanged doctrine (consistency throughout the centuries).
 
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Wow I love your story. I felt the same way with a lot of what I grew up being taught. I started asking people in my church "why do you believe that?" and the answer I usually got was "because that's what I was taught". Usually if scripture was used (many of the teachings have absolutely no scriptural backing) it was out of context and mangled.

I agree with you that Lutheran theology is more biblically based than other theologies that I have studied.
 
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The issue is not telling people I'm Lutheran. It's explaining that I'm not a pro-female clergy, homosexual hugging, fine with anyone taking communion "Lutheran".

From Facebook (to me - I was in a heated abortion debate): so you're a lutheran.... well lutherans are supposed to be one of the most accepting religions around. but not you huh? better pick another religion cuz being a lutheran seems not very sutiable to you.

I had to explain the difference between ELCA and LCMS. Mainstream USA doesn't get it because the media doesn't specify.

I have had that same experience as well. Family and friends thinking I have become theologically liberal.
 
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I have had that same experience as well. Family and friends thinking I have become theologically liberal.

When people hear Lutheran, the automatically think liberal in theology. That is because the ELCA tends to grab the headlines about so many things. One then finds that they have to explain that there are different Lutheran Synods and that one is not the one you are.
 
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The issue is not telling people I'm Lutheran. It's explaining that I'm not a pro-female clergy, homosexual hugging, fine with anyone taking communion "Lutheran".

@ Aibrean: I had a debate with someone very close to me on why me seeing homosexuality being a sin is not me hating them. I don't hate homosexuals, I have had homosexual friends that were very kind loving people. I have homosexuals where I work that are "good" people...

... but there's a difference from seeing that, and viewing it as going against God's will, and those that persecute homosexuals, beat them up, want to do bodily harm and are very mean to them.

I will go out on a limb to say I understand this part of what you are saying.
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@ Jonmolby

I grew up in Assemblies of God/Pentecostal/non-denominational and would go to a baptist church with someone that use to be my best friend. Mainly though charasmatic was what I was raised with and what I thought was truth.

I left my faith 7 years ago now, and upon returning to it while in Afghanistan, I simply went back to my old habits. People had questions and I answered on what I remembered while reading the bible pretty in depth. I would have discussions with a fellow friend that I met that was raised the same way and believed the same things on premillennialism, the pre-tribulation/mid-tribulation rapture all while I still continued to read... and that brought me to a hault.

I would bring up to my friend how the bible actually didn't support pre-tribulation nor mid-tribulation rapture... and then the rapture itself caught my attention... and then it created a dominoe effect of me questioning how I was raised to believe. It led me to dig further and further until I destroyed all of my original views didn't know what to believe except that Christ was God incarnate and he rose from the dead for our sins.

Well a random chaplain was assigned to rotate to our small little base. He was a lutheran. The speaker announced that it was a non-denominational service, when I found it to be "catholic" like, though I found it poetic and beautiful I was appalled because it was so structured and had so much traditions.

This made me question why Lutherans were considered protestants. Well, this led me to the study of dogmatics. I was horrified at how some churches were built, what their theology was, others I simply scratched my head at how some like 7th Day Adventists could think they are the one true church. The outcome was that I'm to either be Catholic or Lutheran. Catholic because they are so in harmony across the world... because they claimed to have not changed from the beginning, and many other things. I hesistated because of how much power the Pope has, and that many positions in the end simply aren't biblical, so looking back at Lutheranism, the only thing I questioned was were if we truely were heretics for creating such a rift... I soon came to the conlusion that no this was not the case.

As for how I deal with family, well they are very accepting. My mother is just happy I'm back in church, she would prefer if I spoke in tongues and shouted Amen during service, but she truely is happy for me. My wife has been awesome since we married with Christ out of our life and suddenly I went religious... and now it's just kind of explaining to my friends why I worship and do things the way I do them now as opposed to them.
 
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@ Aibrean: I had a debate with someone very close to me on why me seeing homosexuality being a sin is not me hating them. I don't hate homosexuals, I have had homosexual friends that were very kind loving people. I have homosexuals where I work that are "good" people...

... but there's a difference from seeing that, and viewing it as going against God's will, and those that persecute homosexuals, beat them up, want to do bodily harm and are very mean to them.

I will go out on a limb to say I understand this part of what you are saying.
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homosexual hugging = saying their behavior is ok

Just so I clarify :) I wasn't being literal

My husband's family is all SDA and he still hasn't told his mother (after almost 6 years now) that not only is he Lutheran, but he's also been baptized in the Lutheran church. She would have kittens and he's scared. I told him now that we have a baby, she's going to have to know since it is getting baptized as soon as it can :) I had to explain that Lutherans are not Catholic (because she thinks Catholics are of the devil).
 
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Was raised Roman Catholic, converted to Mormonism at 16, became very disenchanted with religion....became an alcoholic (and other things), was born again in 1986 at the age of 28, then long rocky road of different denominations. After being in the SBC for a short time, left that due to bad experience ended up in Charismatic Church, left that because as I studied scripture what they taught (and manifested) didn't line up with scripture. Oh, got sober the first time in 1982 (that's been on and off again as well....sober/clean now for 4+ years), continued looking, studying scripture and different theologies. Finally found a church that believed/taught what I had mostly come to conclusion on my own-through study of scripture mostly. And that is the LCMS. Was going to a church that is part of the Acts 29 network. Founded by a couple pastors, one that leads Mars Hill Church in Seattle. I do love listening to Pastor Driscoll preach but I think I still prefer LCMS. Mostly because of the either/or debates on predestination and related theology. I don't believe it can be answered with either/or and it is a mystery/paradox to us. I even posted the LCMS position on another Christian Forum and it was pretty much ignored in favor of the NOSAS/OSAS debate that rages there. Am tired of it. So, here I am.

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