Forgiveness - possible?

[PARCmd]

Good day!

I'm wondering - just these days I had really, really bad blasphemous thoughts, like:

"The S is the Devil so I renounc Him" (You know the S because it is the infamous "unpardonable sin"). Then I would repeat compulsions about it (this is bad)...

Now - I believe that there is no soul-selling, soul-giving - those are as stupid as it sounds (sorry if it offends some people), and accepting the Enemy - is another.

Yesterday I had a feeling of anger and renouncing thoughts came rushing through my mind so that I voluntarily think about them and think a "not" - altho I know that I'm doing that myself (I don't know how to explain this) - coupled by blasphemous thoughts. In a sense I don't want them, but it feels like I don't really despise them.

To be honest, and I'm not making a statement of false humility, I see myself totally unworthy of God because of my thoughts though I really don't wanna renounce or blaspheme Him - I just don't know what happened yesterday why my mind gets stuck..

So, the soul-selling and whatever is finished, because it simply can't be done - but the renunciations and blasphemy are fearful. Renunciations (Hebrews 6:4-6) and Blasphemy (Matt 12, Mark 3) are all considered unforgivable..., though I don't know if the renunciations fit the Hebrews category (in some Bible versions, it does).

 

[PARCmd]

THough both blasphemy and renunciation are generally and etymologically considered to be "speaking sins" - and not to mention that since thoughts are uncontrollable, actions are judged rather than thoughts (except for lust and envy, I think).

It would be grammatically incorrect to say that "I blaspheme the HS" because blasphemy is an act of deed. To say that would be like saying that "I am spanking my brother" - which, if you're not doing, is not valid anyway. Is this also valid for renunciation? - which is in fact, according to all dictionaries, necessitates a public publi declaration and actions?

 

[marcb]

I hope you begin to see this as a huge fear that your ocd has grabbed hold of and nothing more....

I know what you are going through. Looking for definitions, etc. I remember when early on in my struggles I thought "maybe I just 'slandered' the Holy Spirit and therefore maybe I didn't 'blaspheme.'" It didn't do any good.

Call it what it is, an obsessive thought. If you are thinking about the unpardonable sin, you are still obsessing.

Look at all these posts. Do you think we are all blasphemers or ocd'ers. We need to give ourselves a break here. We are not the judge of ourselves.

Get well,

Marc

There is no condemnation for those that are in Christ Jesus. Romans 8:1.

 

[seajoy]

Yea Marc!

 

[kaykay637]

I hope you begin to see this as a huge fear that your ocd has grabbed hold of and nothing more....

I know what you are going through. Looking for definitions, etc. I remember when early on in my struggles I thought "maybe I just 'slandered' the Holy Spirit and therefore maybe I didn't 'blaspheme.'" It didn't do any good.

Call it what it is, an obsessive thought. If you are thinking about the unpardonable sin, you are still obsessing.

Look at all these posts. Do you think we are all blasphemers or ocd'ers. We need to give ourselves a break here. We are not the judge of ourselves.

Get well,

Marc

There is no condemnation for those that are in Christ Jesus. Romans 8:1.

Good advice, marc. This is classic religious OCD. Nothing more. The following website I posted already on another thread but I think it's helpful-

www.net-burst.net/guilty/scrupulosity.htm