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Forgive me but how are we saved

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Iollain

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MbiaJc said:
Sword-In-Hand you are half right. Iollain you are wrong.

The blood of Jesus was shed for our sins.

We are saved by Grace through Faith.

We are saved by the Grace of God, through the Faith of Jesus Christ. Not our faith His Faith.

Romans says if you confess with our mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead you shall be saved.

We just believe in Jesus and confess that God raised Him from the dead.(Aberham believed God and it was counted to him for rightousness)

It is not our faith that saves us, but the faith of Jesus. All we need to do is believe and confess.

Eph 3:11 According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:
Eph 3:12 In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him.

I'm not wrong, i know about the Grace and Faith, but without the Blood there would be no salvation.

What can wash away my sins?

Nothin but the Blood of Jesus!
 
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doglover said:
As many above my have stated, we are saved by Grace through Faith. But let's try to break it down a little more for 'seebs'. If we believe that Jesus: Was born from Mary; and Mary was a virgin; died a terrible death and was nailed on the cross because HE LOVES US; Rose from the dead 3 days later; cares SO much about every human being; loves us unconditionally. AND if we: repent from every sin and wrong-doing in our lives; accept Jesus and his sacrifice for us. If we say YOU ARE LORD!!!

Believe these things, (along with the fact that he created people and every thing) and after you accept Jesus, keep up your relationship. A lot of times it just seems like 'okay now, I've done what they said, "NOW What?"' If you REALLY study His word, you will find things that apply to your life. It's HARD! There are many times that I've felt this same way! Like, 'How does the Bible REALLY apply to my life?'

And 1 last thing: Make God your VERY BEST friend! Make him your confider, your comforter, and the [person] you go to with both your excitement and your troubles. He's always there for you, and he always cares.

Hope this has helped! :)
God bless,
doglover
sorry... I mean 'MbiaJc'
 
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Iollain said:
I'm not wrong, i know about the Grace and Faith, but without the Blood there would be no salvation.

What can wash away my sins?

Nothin but the Blood of Jesus!

Wasn't that what I said to you that Jesus Blood was shed for our sins. However that not what I asked. You was right in what you said however you didn't answer my question, is what I was referring to,
 
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doglover said:
As many above my have stated, we are saved by Grace through Faith. But let's try to break it down a little more for 'seebs'. If we believe that Jesus: Was born from Mary; and Mary was a virgin; died a terrible death and was nailed on the cross because HE LOVES US; Rose from the dead 3 days later; cares SO much about every human being; loves us unconditionally. AND if we: repent from every sin and wrong-doing in our lives; accept Jesus and his sacrifice for us. If we say YOU ARE LORD!!!

Believe these things, (along with the fact that he created people and every thing) and after you accept Jesus, keep up your relationship. A lot of times it just seems like 'okay now, I've done what they said, "NOW What?"' If you REALLY study His word, you will find things that apply to your life. It's HARD! There are many times that I've felt this same way! Like, 'How does the Bible REALLY apply to my life?'

And 1 last thing: Make God your VERY BEST friend! Make him your confider, your comforter, and the [person] you go to with both your excitement and your troubles. He's always there for you, and he always cares.

Hope this has helped! :)
God bless,
doglover

Verry good post and I agree with it, however that not what I was asking. What I want to convay is our faith has nothing to do with our salvation, it is the faith of Jesus Christ. I was raised in a Baptist Church and that what I was taught and believed of years that it was God grace and my faith, however that is not the case.
And many on this board apply their faith to their salvation which is not correct.

May God Bless MbiaJc
 
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No other font I know ...

okay, back to the OP
Jesus said:

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
John 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
John 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
 
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PapaLandShark said:
Most welcome MbiaJc. I hope that I've interpreted your intent correctly my friend.

How one is saved is one of those questions that is paramount to understand correctly. I've recently been witness to two brothers who had been going to church for months ( or years! ) who had not grasped the concept. They thought that simply by going to church and living a good life was enough. That they were saved through thier own actions.

I was one of the mentioned above.

I'll spare the predestination stuff for another time. It's all about the Lord folks. He calls you. He saves you. He provides the Way.

Glory to our saviour Jesus and His awesome Love for us.

Ephesians 2:8-10
"For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them"

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mesue said:
No other font I know ...

okay, back to the OP
Jesus said:

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
John 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
John 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

How true it is, however this is along the lines of what must I do. Not how we are saved which is what I am after. sorry
 
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From our standpoint there will be acknowledging the facts: We are sinners. God is holy, and He has accepted Christ's substitutionary atonement as a payment for the penalty of us being sinners. After one "Knows" the facts, one will then agree with them. And then a personal faith or trust in those facts will be seen. This faith is a turning to Jesus Christ as the way to Heaven. By turning to Christ, it also entails turning from sin, called Repentance. This brings justification - a legal standing in God's eyes that we are righteous, because Christ's righteousness is applied to our account.

Now, God's grace made this all possible, as in His grace and love brought Jesus willingly to the cross. Or His grace in each of our lives to regenerate us - I'm still not sure how far I go with the whole "Unconditional" election part of that argument, but anyway...
 
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Gold Dragon said:
Some of our Catholic and Orthodox brothers and sisters use the following saying that I think adds a very valuable dimension to the simplistic formula presented by most of evangelical Christianity.

I have been saved, I am being saved, I will be saved.

Hey Baptist also have that saying. Thanks
 
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MbiaJc said:
Wasn't that what I said to you that Jesus Blood was shed for our sins. However that not what I asked. You was right in what you said however you didn't answer my question, is what I was referring to,


Oh, i see what ya mean...... :idea:
 
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