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Forcing a homosexual to change dorm rooms, discrimination?

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lawtonfogle

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Actually, the few times I am forced to use a public changing room at my university, I go to my own stall and change in there if I have to get naked. If I am just stripping down to undies, I'll do that in the actual changing room.
Personally, I'm uncomfortable changing in front of anyone. But the general idea is not that you or me will molest someone, but that some person will. I won't molest a woman I am in a changing room with, or even sexually approach her, but John Doe over there might, so I can understand her being uncomfortable changing in front of males even though I won't do anything.
Lets not forget that males are victimized, and while it is to a lesser extent, due to attitude of society, most don't report it, even more so than women.

A woman who has been victimized is a victimized woman. A man who has been victimized is not longer a man. At least, that is a general attitude by many, at least over where I live.
 
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Actually, the few times I am forced to use a public changing room at my university, I go to my own stall and change in there if I have to get naked. If I am just stripping down to undies, I'll do that in the actual changing room.

Same. Though I very rarely find myself in a changing room these days as since I stopped being forced to exercise I've pretty much stopped.

I'm not just talking about total nudity, however.

I don't think that's the issue, though. I think it's about nudity rather than sex. Of course, we've socially really sexualised the human body, but nudity is still not just sexual.

The most obvious thing that comes to mind is body issues such as size of stomach, penis, breasts, waist, bottom, body hair etc. Are those really just about our concerns about others' sexual attraction? What I meant to say was that there's generally less of a problem with people of the same sex not because they tend not to be attracted to you but because they have a similar body and understand its variations from a very personal perspective. Given that most adults are sexually active, and most of the rest have had sex/watch pornography, of course we all know what the bodies of the opposite sex look like in a basic way. But not from a personal perspective. There seems to me to be a sort of body empathy, I guess.

If everyone was completely asexual, would we feel comfortable walking around naked? I'm really not sure, but I'd instinctively err slightly on the side of No, there's something more than just sex here.

Of course men are victimised, I was just using the example in response to your post about women feeling victimised.
 
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Nudity is not inherently sexual, but for anyone who has gone through a socialization anything like mine, nudity is sexual by the time you are an adult. Perhaps we should all spend 4 years in a nudist colony? It would help many Americans get over our hang ups related to nudity.
In all honesty, almost no one I know, male or female, has a body like mine. My body is more similar to some females I know than males, granted that is a male who is the closest you can look like a skeleton without being anorexic.
If everyone was completely asexual, would we feel comfortable walking around naked? I'm really not sure, but I'd instinctively err slightly on the side of No, there's something more than just sex here.
But I think sex has a huge role, not because it is inherently there, but because our society (or at least my society as you may live in a much more open place) forces it to.
Of course men are victimised, I was just using the example in response to your post about women feeling victimised.
Ok.
 
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A person may not want someone watching them undress if that person is attracted to their particular gender.It may make them very uncomfortable.


 
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A person may not want someone watching them undress if that person is attracted to their particular gender.It may make them very uncomfortable.


Since when is it possible to be attracted to an entire gender? Like it or not, homosexuals/bisexuals are not attracted to every single same-gendered person.

Oh, and I felt like adding something (this part isn't just to you, annrobert, it's to everyone). The fear of my roommate kicking me out of our room (or moving out of the room herself) if I come out of the closet is the one reason I feel like I have to stay in the closet around her (after all, she's the one real friend at college I actually have), and I find it horrendous that some people seem to think it's perfectly fine for me to have to pretend to be someone I'm not (a straight person, in other words) around my roommate. This is 2010, I shouldn't have to remain in the closet for any reason anymore. So please stop supporting mindsets that cause me to have to remain in the closet!
 
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Since when is it possible to be attracted to an entire gender? Like it or not, homosexuals/bisexuals are not attracted to every single same-gendered person.
But it is not that there is attraction, but the possibility of attraction.

Hey, as long as people are going to support males and females being separate, homosexuals will be treated differently in matters where males and females are given separate rules (even in the cases where the rules are identical without respect to gender, as it is with rooms).

As long as society says boys and girls should be separated because of the CHANCE of sexual attraction, then homosexuals will have to be separated from their own sex, and bisexuals will have to be separated from everyone.

Of course, in places (e.g. college dorms) that do not force separate males and females, this will not happen. Until we, as a society at large, get over our hang ups about sex. And as to the original topic of this thread, where we were dealing with minors, we will also have to get over our hang ups with minors having sex with each other. Otherwise, separating bisexuals from the children certain situations (e.g. rooming together)) is just the logical conclusion of saying that minors who may be sexually attracted should not be allowed in that situation (e.g. rooming together).

As to your personal case, I would be pretty sure that your campus has a GSA or similar organization, which should be willing to help you find someone who will not mind the fact that you are bisexual.
 
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