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Meyers previously worked as a geophysicist, so I assume he's not a YEC.
Big assumption.
You'd think a geophys would know better, but!
If its this Meyer...Stephen C. Meyer - Wikipedia
he sure went off the tracks somewhere.
Meyer is not a YEC. I am one of his fans and have one of his books.Big assumption.
You'd think a geophys would know better, but!
If its this Meyer...Stephen C. Meyer - Wikipedia
he sure went off the tracks somewhere.
I didnt say he was.Meyer is not a YEC. I am one of his fans and have one of his books.
What do you think of the discovery institute?
Indeed.So, I guess for ID, I'd have to say, it has a mild form of dishonesty wrapped into earnest belief, and there's history with cdesign proponentists and some dishonest approaches by IDers in that regard.
Hm. What do I think of them.
Well, when it comes to creationism, there's a fine line between earnest faith based beliefs, and intellectual dishonest abuse of topics of science. It's like asking what I think of Ken Ham. Some days he comes off as a complete con artist, but then other days he comes off as someone who sincerely believes what he preaches, despite it sounding crazy.
And there's a spectrum there. With YECism, OECism, ID, and TE. Because of the generally mysterious nature of God or of existence, naturally there's just a lot of variety of theological views, including things like atheism and agnosticism. Personally, I think that within Christianity, theistic evolution is the only decent option with respect to being perfectly honest about scientific topics. Simply because TE doesn't really have any theological limits for what science says.
So, I guess for ID, I'd have to say, it has a mild form of dishonesty wrapped into earnest belief, and there's history with cdesign proponentists and some dishonest approaches by IDers in that regard.
So they can't really be trusted. And I think Meyer in particular takes a pretty dishonest approach to paleontology as well.
But at the end of the day, for them, honesty doesn't really matter. Like in the court of law, lawyers make arguments in favor of things, not necessarily because it's right or wrong, but because that's what their career falls upon. Criminals can go free with good lawyers who make good arguments. And that's what Meyer does. He makes arguments, he sells books, he makes a salary, perhaps he goes to church afterwards and feels as though he's doing God's work, and that's good enough for him.
As for me, I love it.What do you think of the discovery institute?
When was Discovery Institute dishonest?From my pov honesty, intellectual or otherwise, is everything.
If a preacher or a scientist or an attorney does not
have integrity, they have nothing and their work
deserves only contempt.
As for me, I love it.
evolutionnews.org is one of my favourite sites. Phillip Johnson is a great writer too.
Anyone writer who points out the weaknesses of Darwinism with contrary science is a great writer.What makes Meyer a great writer?
Literary quality or the strength of his ID reseasrch?
(As in did you read any of it)
Of course he's "done" legitimate science - he worked as a geophysicist.Now now, i just asked if you had read any of his science.
I take it you have not.
So may I assume you think Meyer writes great literature,
though youve no idea if he has done any legitimate science
to support the iD that he writes about?
Anyone writer who points out the weaknesses of Darwinism with contrary science is a great writer.
Of course he's "done" legitimate science - he worked as a geophysicist.
I thought that's what you meant in post 949.
So you don't think Discovery Institute is dishonest? Most Darwinists do.
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