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For those wondering what "macroevolution" actually is...

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No, I sure can't.

Are you saying I don't care if Latin predates English ... or English predates Latin?

Or what exactly?

That you just don't care in general.

If you say that Jacobean English came first, why should the Latin terms matter anything to you?
 
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That you just don't care in general.

If you say that Jacobean English came first, why should the Latin terms matter anything to you?
Do you think I should care?

Should I care that the earth came before the sun?

Hows come you guys don't do cartwheels over that?

Wouldn't I believing the earth came before the sun be more perplexing to people than believing Jacobean English came before Latin?

Not only that, I believe angiosperms came before the sun! :eek:

And ... are you ready for this doosey?

I ... I also believe this!

Jesus walked on water.
 
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Do you think I should care?

Should I care that the earth came before the sun?

Hows come you guys don't do cartwheels over that?

Wouldn't I believing the earth came before the sun be more perplexing to people than believing Jacobean English came before Latin?

Not only that, I believe angiosperms came before the sun! :eek:

And ... are you ready for this doosey?

I ... I also believe this!

Jesus walked on water.

Does it change anything to you that records show that fetus is cognate with child in the womb, or that kind doesn't mean genus?
 
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Creationists claim that evolution has never been observed when, in fact, it's been observed both in the lab and the field repeatedl
... probably because you didn't clarify what you meant by "evolution".

I've never come across a creationist who claims that microevolution has never been observed.

"Microevolution, or evolution on a small scale, is defined as a change in the frequency of gene variants, alleles, in a population over generations."
 
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OK. I agree, that doesn't happen - and evolutionary theory says it doesn't happen. Birds won't become mammals and mammals won't become crustaceans... classes are separate branches of the evolutionary tree.
According to Darwinist folklore, humans evolved from bacteria.
 
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...okay.

So, the variation of humans, whales, apes, rats, kangaroos and platypuses is all micro evolution because they are still in the class mammalia?

That's an unusual take for a creationist.

Take a look at Permian Synapsids, they form the transition from the common ancestors of all amniotes to what would become mammals, as opposed to the sauropsids who were ancestral to reptiles and birds.
Please be advised of my new definition of "macroevolution": One Family of organisms evolving from an existing Family of organisms.

(You are the first to know, but don't let that unspeakable privilege go to your head.)
 
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Didn't he marry his first cousin?

As did many, many, many, many people in those days and the centuries before and none of them really knew why it had the negative results that it did, until the theory of evolution explained why cousins marrying and having children is not the best idea.
 
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According to Darwinist folklore, humans evolved from bacteria.
It's better to rely on science than folklore. Currently, the origin of Eukaryotes (including humans) is undecided. Their cells have features of both bacteria and archaea - it's possible that they originated as an endosymbiotic combination of an early bacterium and an archaean, where the archaean cell was absorbed by a bacterial cell and became the nucleus, in much the same way as later eukaryote cells absorbed bacteria that became the mitochondria.

Wikipedia gives a summary of current ideas on this: Origin of eukaryotes.
 
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Please be advised of my new definition of "macroevolution": One Family of organisms evolving from an existing Family of organisms.

(You are the first to know, but don't let that unspeakable privilege go to your head.)

Cool, your new definition has the variation of basal ape to orangutan, chimp, gorilla and human as microevolution, because they are all still in the family Hominidae.
 
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As did many, many, many, many people in those days and the centuries before and none of them really knew why it had the negative results that it did, until the theory of evolution explained why cousins marrying and having children is not the best idea.
Too bad he quit his medical studies prematurely, isn't it?

Perhaps THAT was what God had in mind for him? to find the medical reason to prohibit close marriages?
 
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Too bad he quit his medical studies prematurely, isn't it?

Perhaps THAT was what God had in mind for him? to find the medical reason to prohibit close marriages?

So Darwin came up with the theory of evolution which shows it perfectly why inbreeding is damaging. Maybe that's what God intended Darwin to do all along.
 
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So Darwin came up with the theory of evolution which shows it perfectly why inbreeding is damaging. Maybe that's what God intended Darwin to do all along.
Microevolution.
 
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Too bad he quit his medical studies prematurely, isn't it?
Perhaps not. He went on to study theology, which would have let him understand why a literal reading of Genesis is not necessary to support essential Christian doctrine. ;)
 
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Perhaps not. He went on to study theology, which would have let him understand why a literal reading of Genesis is not necessary to support essential Christian doctrine. ;)
Welcome to CF, ottawak.

Nice to meet you. :wave:
 
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