For Literalists....a little help understanding

[rambot]

When God made man, he made only 1 sex: Man. As Adam was hanging out and having fun, filling his days but getting lonely, God saw it'd be good for him to have a mate and he made Eve as part of Adam.


My question:
Does that mean that God only created one gender for all the other animals as well and because of the fall half of all these animals spontaneously changed genders OR did God make both genders for all other animals but only one "man"?

I haven't come to a logical conclusion on this and it's vexing me.

 

[Mark Quayle]

When God made man, he made only 1 sex: Man. As Adam was hanging out and having fun, filling his days but getting lonely, God saw it'd be good for him to have a mate and he made Eve as part of Adam.


My question:
Does that mean that God only created one gender for all the other animals as well and because of the fall half of all these animals spontaneously changed genders OR did God make both genders for all other animals but only one "man"?

I haven't come to a logical conclusion on this and it's vexing me.

No.

 

[Larniavc]

And did Adam have free will at that time?

 

[AV1611VET]

I haven't come to a logical conclusion on this and it's vexing me.

God made the animals, then He made Adam.

Then He held off on making Eve until He paraded the animals past Adam, so Adam could name them.

Adam stood there and saw Mr and Mrs Gorilla pass by, Mr and Mrs Giraffe pass by, Mr and Mrs T. Rex pass by.

But ... but ... where was Mrs Adam?

It was then that God put Adam to sleep, took a rib from him, and made Eve.

 

[AV1611VET]

And did Adam have free will at that time?

Yes.

 

[rambot]

God made the animals, then He made Adam.

Then He held off on making Eve until He paraded the animals past Adam, so Adam could name them.

Adam stood there and saw Mr and Mrs Gorilla pass by, Mr and Mrs Giraffe pass by, Mr and Mrs T. Rex pass by.

But ... but ... where was Mrs Adam?

It was then that God put Adam to sleep, took a rib from him, and made Eve.

So your position is that God made male and female animal but only one gender for humans?
Seems an odd choice. Like...wouldn't God recognize that Adam "would be lonely" when he made companions for all the other animals?

 

[rambot]

No.

You lost me with your answer since I had two options (unless htere is a third option I don't know).

 

[AV1611VET]

So your position is that God made male and female animal but only one gender for humans?

My position is that He held off making Eve.

Seems an odd choice.

Why?

Like...wouldn't God recognize that Adam "would be lonely" when he made companions for all the other animals?

I don't know if it's a matter of loneliness per se.

But if Adam was lonely, then yes, God would have known that before He even created him.

 

[Roderick Spode]

So your position is that God made male and female animal but only one gender for humans?
Seems an odd choice. Like...wouldn't God recognize that Adam "would be lonely" when he made companions for all the other animals?

For everything there's a time and a purpose. What might apply to humans may not necessarily apply to animals. The bible is not specific about why there was a wait, but Adam was placed in the garden for a purpose, which may have required a waiting period.

 

[Mark Quayle]

And did Adam have free will at that time?

If you mean, did he have to answer to his wife, no he did not have to answer to his wife.

The answer depends on what you mean by "free will".

 

[Mark Quayle]

You lost me with your answer since I had two options (unless htere is a third option I don't know).

You said: "Does that mean that God only created one gender for all the other animals as well and because of the fall half of all these animals spontaneously changed genders OR did God make both genders for all other animals but only one "man"?"

In truth we don't even know if God made man with reproductive ability to begin with. But I meant, "No", concerning the first part of the question. We have no reason to think that he would have made all the other animals with one gender. But we don't have enough information to decide for sure one way or the other on that.

The way the story is told, seems to me told for the purpose of story-telling, and not for accurate representation of God's purposes; it doesn't make sense that he would make man with a gender then add the woman as an after-thought.

 

[BCP1928]

Eve was trans--she had male DNA.

 

[Larniavc]

If you mean, did he have to answer to his wife, no he did not have to answer to his wife.

The answer depends on what you mean by "free will".

I mean the free will God gave humanity so that we would not be automatons. Did Adam have that kind of free will.

 

[Paul4JC]

Creation was not complete without Eve, just as it was not complete on day 1. Adam was incomplete without Eve.

[Mar 10:6 ESV] But from the beginning of creation, 'God made them male and female.'

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

How does Lilith fit in to this?

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

God made the animals, then He made Adam.

Then He held off on making Eve until He paraded the animals past Adam, so Adam could name them.

Adam stood there and saw Mr and Mrs Gorilla pass by, Mr and Mrs Giraffe pass by, Mr and Mrs T. Rex pass by.

But ... but ... where was Mrs Adam?

It was then that God put Adam to sleep, took a rib from him, and made Eve.

He did not parade the animals in front of Adam just for him to name. He was looking for a "companion" among them to be with Adam:

20 The man gave names to all the tame animals, to all the birds in the air, and to all the wild animals. He saw many animals and birds, but he could not find a companion that was right for him.

Apparently, inappropriate behavior with animals was perfectly okay with God and within reason for Adam if he so desired.

 

[AV1611VET]

How does Lilith fit in to this?

An extra-Biblical add on.

 

[AV1611VET]

He did not parade the animals in front of Adam just for him to name.

Actually He did.

Genesis 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

He was looking for a "companion" among them to be with Adam:

20 The man gave names to all the tame animals, to all the birds in the air, and to all the wild animals. He saw many animals and birds, but he could not find a companion that was right for him.

Apparently, inappropriate behavior with animals was perfectly okay with God and within reason for Adam if he so desired.

Is that what you learned in college today?

Or did you learn this?

Leviticus 18:23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

Actually He did.

Genesis 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.



Is that what you learned in college today?

Or did you learn this?

Leviticus 18:23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.

I quoted your holy book verbatim, AV.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

An extra-Biblical add on.

Your "God cleaned up all evidence of the flood" is extra-biblical, too. The difference is there is actual ancient writings that mention Lilith.