For Alpine - Others as well

[BenAdam]

Alpine my brother, in an effort to not derail a thread anymore than I have already, I wish to comment on another post you made.

It's getting harder and harder for me to come to the SF forum for this very reason, I can't take much more of it.

You stated this in response to my statement that Christianity's problem is too many weirdos and then subsequent refusal to back up my statement.

Are you saying that you find too often that people come to the forum and use it as a soapbox for their "revelation" or "prophecy" and yet will not allow or submit to any testing of said items?

 

[AllForJesus]

Alpine my brother, in an effort to not derail a thread anymore than I have already, I wish to comment on another post you made.


You stated this in response to my statement that Christianity's problem is too many weirdos and then subsequent refusal to back up my statement.

Are you saying that you find too often that people come to the forum and use it as a soapbox for their "revelation" or "prophecy" and yet will not allow or submit to any testing of said items?

I dont come often to SC but sometimes i notie untested prophecies...

 

[Alpine]

Yea, and some of the stuff is pretty far out too. If we question it, we are told we are opposing the very words of God.

Last year some guy on here told me a bunch of things about me that were totally false, and when I challenged his wrong assertions I was told it doesn't matter what I say, it's what God told him.

Just seems lately we've been going off the deep end.

That or my patience is fast disappearing.

 

[BenAdam]

You are not alone my friend. Too often people have opinions that they try to wrap in a mantle of it being from God. I get pretty frustrated that we cannot question something because the person that gave it believes it is from God.

I get words all the time for people, and I DESIRE to be held accountable to the truth of what I believe God is saying.

 

[He put me back together]

public class Prophet
{
public String opinon;
private int TimeAbandonmentThreshold;
private int TestAbandonmentThreshold;

public Prophet( String Opinion, int TimeThreshold, int TestThreshold )
{
opinon = Opinion;
TimeAbandonmentThreshold = TimeThreshold;
TestAbandonmentThreshold = TestThreshold;
}
public void Prophesy( TimeStamp TimeOfCompletion )
{
int Testometer = 0;
ForumThread ProphecyThread = new ForumThread();
while(true)
{
int TimeUntilCompletion = DateDiff( days, GetCurrentDate(), TimeOfCompletion )
ProphecyThread.Thump("Thus saith the Lord:");
ProphecyThread.Thump(opinion);

if( ProphecyThread.ProphecyTested )
{
Testometer++;
ProphecyThread.Thump("He said in the last days there would always be scoffers! But in " + TimeUntilCompletion + " days, you'll be sorry!");
}
if( TimeUntilCompletion <= TimeAbandonmentThreshold || Testometer > TestAbandonmentThreshold )
break;
}
ProphecyThread.RequestClosure();
Forget();
opinion = AdjustOpinionToCurrentEvents(opinion);
}
}

 

[BenAdam]

hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

 

[gratefulgrace]

I do not see why anyone would be upset when their assertions are questioned. Even God's word commends those Christians who did that very thing. I jot it down to immaturity or persoanality flaws. I usually take a light approach and just figure that God is still not finished with any of us yet so I let it go. That is unless I feel prompted to respond according to the Holy Scriptures. gg

 

[He put me back together]

I don't think it discourages me to come here, so long as good discussion still exists. It just encourages me not to waste my time with the prophecy threads, since not one of them in my experience has ever been subject to the parameters of the Bible. Not even one, that I can think of. I could be wrong, especially since I don't bother looking into that many.

Though I'm a little more sporatic out here than I'd like to be, due to time and my job, I'm here to discuss stuff. If someone doesn't want to discuss stuff, that's his business. We just don't have a common interest on this board.

 

[KleinerApfel]

Yup, lots of weird Christians....BUT there are lots of weird "normal" humans too.
When we Christians are weird it seems to show up more than when non-Christians are weird. Maybe.

Or maybe I'm just thinking weird today....

 

[EyezOFire]

Most of the time I dont read into anyone else's prophetic insight. I think some of the charismatic stuff is wackado anyways... I think last year someone posted a thread about getting the anointing from John Alexanders Dowies grave.. I'm like sweet Jesus must we go to another state and laydown in a mans grave to conjour up God, does he not live inside of us.. When I hear people talking about doing stuff like that I think A) it's silly and B) it's sad, because they are striving too hard for something they already have... Same thing with all the end-time prophecies and God's Wrath- I read and go ok- now where is the fragrence of Father on these.. hmmmmmm

 

[probinson]

public class Prophet
{
public String opinon;
private int TimeAbandonmentThreshold;
private int TestAbandonmentThreshold;

public Prophet( String Opinion, int TimeThreshold, int TestThreshold )
{
opinon = Opinion;
TimeAbandonmentThreshold = TimeThreshold;
TestAbandonmentThreshold = TestThreshold;
}
public void Prophesy( TimeStamp TimeOfCompletion )
{
int Testometer = 0;
ForumThread ProphecyThread = new ForumThread();
while(true)
{
int TimeUntilCompletion = DateDiff( days, GetCurrentDate(), TimeOfCompletion )
ProphecyThread.Thump("Thus saith the Lord:");
ProphecyThread.Thump(opinion);

if( ProphecyThread.ProphecyTested )
{
Testometer++;
ProphecyThread.Thump("He said in the last days there would always be scoffers! But in " + TimeUntilCompletion + " days, you'll be sorry!");
}
if( TimeUntilCompletion <= TimeAbandonmentThreshold || Testometer > TestAbandonmentThreshold )
break;
}
ProphecyThread.RequestClosure();
Forget();
opinion = AdjustOpinionToCurrentEvents(opinion);
}
}

I don't know what's scarier... the fact that you took the time to type that all out, or the fact that I understood it all!

 

[charityagape]

Alpine my brother, in an effort to not derail a thread anymore than I have already, I wish to comment on another post you made.


You stated this in response to my statement that Christianity's problem is too many weirdos and then subsequent refusal to back up my statement.

Are you saying that you find too often that people come to the forum and use it as a soapbox for their "revelation" or "prophecy" and yet will not allow or submit to any testing of said items?

When that happens to me I immediately start picturing the person as Mr. Peanut. GIANT WALKING TALKING NUT. I will soon and suddenly see lots of Mr. Peanuts.......this I prophesy (?sp?)

 

[gratefulgrace]

IMHO
There are many Christians and non Christians who have strong egocentric personalities. They just cannot imagine an opinion that is better or truer than their own. For the christians this gets transferred to their practise of their faith and mars their witness and yes it is sad because often they move in the flesh and presume they are speaking for God running ahead of the true 'still small voice' of the Holy Spirit. For the non christians it isn't as serious cause most people will just say to themselves "Man that guy is weird" and withdraw but God doesn't get the blame. gratefulgrace

 

[Alpine]

public class Prophet
{
public String opinon;
private int TimeAbandonmentThreshold;
private int TestAbandonmentThreshold;

public Prophet( String Opinion, int TimeThreshold, int TestThreshold )
{
opinon = Opinion;
TimeAbandonmentThreshold = TimeThreshold;
TestAbandonmentThreshold = TestThreshold;
}
public void Prophesy( TimeStamp TimeOfCompletion )
{
int Testometer = 0;
ForumThread ProphecyThread = new ForumThread();
while(true)
{
int TimeUntilCompletion = DateDiff( days, GetCurrentDate(), TimeOfCompletion )
ProphecyThread.Thump("Thus saith the Lord:");
ProphecyThread.Thump(opinion);

if( ProphecyThread.ProphecyTested )
{
Testometer++;
ProphecyThread.Thump("He said in the last days there would always be scoffers! But in " + TimeUntilCompletion + " days, you'll be sorry!");
}
if( TimeUntilCompletion <= TimeAbandonmentThreshold || Testometer > TestAbandonmentThreshold )
break;
}
ProphecyThread.RequestClosure();
Forget();
opinion = AdjustOpinionToCurrentEvents(opinion);
}
}

wow post of the year for me!

 

[charityagape]

It's disturbing when people are adament that they heard from God such detailed and set in stone type prophesies................what do they think when they don't happen?

 

[gratefulgrace]

That is a good question I wonder if they would admit that maybe they wre mistaken or just rethink the message as so many cults have done over the years. gg

 

[BenAdam]

It's disturbing when people are adament that they heard from God such detailed and set in stone type prophesies................what do they think when they don't happen?

The problem is many of them don't care, they just move along to the next revelation.

 

[gratefulgrace]

Tossed to a fro by winds of doctrine you mean?

 

[Charles L. Blackman]

Thus sayeth the Lord:































Well hello there!

 

[Tamara224]

I don't think it's wrong to test prophecies. In fact, I think we should examine them according to Scripture, pray about them and see whether the Spirit confirms it to us.


But I think we shouldn't be mocking one another or calling each other names.