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What Jesus is saying here is that following him is a total commitment of your life, it is not just a momentary fad, but a lifetime commitment. The persons father in the parable was not dead so what he was saying was after all my Earthly attachments are gone I will follow you, but that was unacceptable to Jesus. You could look at it this way " let the lost bury the lost"
 
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I choose to believe what that Bible says about the subject not some godless historian trying to sale a book about his opinions.
 
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Jesus was a total radical. Probably wouldn't be happy with the state of Christianity today seeing that it is so wrapped up in the world's affairs. My guess is if old JC walked into one of 'His' houses today, he would most likely be thrown out or arrested.
 
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Well, we know that thoughts come and thoughts go,
unless we grab hold of one.

This is what happened last evening when I started this thread,
for some reason, totally uninvited, the thought came that perhaps there is much more to the story.
 
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I choose to believe what that Bible says about the subject not some godless historian trying to sale a book about his opinions.

To best understand what the Bible says it is wise to understand the full context. That context includes history, religious understandings, societal attitudes, etc., etc.
 
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I choose to believe what that Bible says about the subject not some godless historian trying to sale a book about his opinions.

According to the story, three men, wise, kings or astrologers,
I think astrologers,
because they had followed a star,
What was the reaction of Herodes to this?

It is very similar to at the birth of Abram,
The night before Abram was born,

Nimrods astrologers were gathered in Terahs house,
looking into the night sky,

they read in the constellation of stars that the newly born child was to become the chief
and the father of a mighty nation.

Nimrod became afraid that the new star would darken his own.

Thereafter Nimrod wanted the child dead.

Similar to Herodes,

So, there is more to it.
 
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To best understand what the Bible says it is wise to understand the full context. That context includes history, religious understandings, societal attitudes, etc., etc.

I understand context, I happen to be a historian and Theologian by profession I also recognize the attempt to change the context to further an agenda. Changing what the Bible teaches to make it more acceptable to a modern political correctness agenda is unacceptable to true Bible believers.
 
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Where do you find this story at?
 
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Nimrod and Abram did not live in the same time line.
 
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it comes from,
Our people, a history of the Jews,

The life of our forefather Abraham.

Publishen and coyrighted by
Kehot publlication society.

I noticed that it was not in the Old Testament or the Jewish Bible.
 
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"Follow me and let the dead bury their dead."

What do you make of it?
I've been wondering if the person who wanted to go home to bury his father had actually wanted to go home to claim a share of his father's inheritance? Jesus is telling this person to let others squabble over the inheritance? (I believe Jewish burials happen within 24 hours so this person could not have hoped to return home in time to participate in the actual burial? I suppose it is possible that Jesus was visiting the town where the father's death occurred, but I always imagined that it was some distance away.)
 
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^ I suppose another possible explanation of "let the dead bury their own dead" is that the followers of Jesus might have been a type of Essenes. The Essenes consisted of middle-aged men (and sometimes women) who usually renounced their ties to their previous family life and donated all their money to the sect for common use. This would also explain the similar story of a rich man who was reluctant to follow Jesus because Jesus said he must give away all his money first.
 
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That is a possibility,

I checked out paralell verses and they were about money and belongings.
 
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